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In a world where billions are starving and living in heavy duty mafia like conditions, such as Phillipines, Cambodia, Africa, India, and South America, to name a few spots, the injustices outweigh any value to lessons.
The whole school has been hijacked and progression for many, halted in an unending trap of karma where NO ONE could be expected not to react, where the pot is stirred nonstop with real horrendous suffering and murders, all for the benefit of a tiny few mafia lords.
Do you think there is actual free will?
Many ETS don't and feel the deals/contracts were broken long ago here.
I don't agree with peoples answers here. I feel they're the kind that allow many to sleep well at night and need to be examined carefully.
Too many have had their progression halted.
..and I can only encourage you to seek the Holy Spirit. The things I had to go through to reach Thee....was fasting, forgiving, releasing all grudges, being willing to hold love for all, without exception. All I can tell you is Jesus led me down the way of understanding of what I needed to do to become humble enough to learn from her, the wisdom that will teach us....and when I finally did reach her....I didnt want to leave her.
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by LeoVirgo
No, its someone following ET_MAN's threads, who has quite significant energy himself, who hasn't actually posted on this one. I'll be sending lots of love his way. Never had that kind of threat from anyone for posting positive messages online before, and don't post any other kind.
[edit on 5-9-2010 by Unity_99]
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Unity_99
Hey ther LeoVirgo,
Good to see you posting (not seen you here for a while ... I have been reading this thread with great interest since it was started ... but have not felt the need to post ... until that is, I read your post (see below).
That is one of the most heartfelt and meticulous posts that I have read on ATS in a long, long time ... and I have to agree with your sentiments 100%.
It never ceases to amaze me how people can claim to be spiritually aware ... and yet be so closed to the potential of truth, as others perceive it ... the simplest of all spiritual lessons should be that perspective of the path we choose is relative only to the individual ... even those on similar paths will not 'see' things in identical ways ... but as you say, that certainly does not mean that one is right and the other wrong.
The irony is never lost on me that it is the ones who claim to hold not only 'all' the answers ... but the 'only' answers (the same ones who feel because of this knowledge they have the closest connection to the 'Divine Source') are actually the ones with the biggest ego (naturally they do not see this themselves).
But if anyone reading these words is offended by them ... then maybe you are the one who has aloud 'ego' to compromise and breach your true 'spirtuality'. If you're not sure whether this applies to you or not it will be confirmed by your inability to be flexible ... as Aerosmith once sang 'Lifes A journey Not A Destination' ... and only fools believe they have 'all' of the answers.
Good thread OP and some good debate amongst it all
Star for you and another for LeoVirgo (very inspirational)
But there is no way that I can ever ever accept a world like this existing. Theres always a better way. And the ones "in the know" lying, are always the ones most repsonsible.
They are still you. You dont have to accept that while in the body complex, but outside of the body complex, you will just know it.
This is why you long for the self...you cant face yet the need for the ALL and understand the sifting process the Spirit must go through in many different vessels.
Moving mountains is not easy. Hearts are hardened....fear and nonacceptance turns beings inward to self, not able to observe the paths their other selves are on.
Since all paths are valid, it doesnt make you right or wrong. Your beliefs are valid for YOU....and outside of the body complex, this will offer you just what you are in need of learning.
You are stuck on the ideas that the ones that lie and cheat and are learning lessons should be responsible....and they will be, they are other selves of you still learning how to over come the individual self and they can not yet live for another.
Ultimately, it is love that conquers...unconditional love that is offered to each of us outside the body complex, unconditional love that helps us face the things we did and helps us understand why we did those things. It is the love that helps us remain standing when we must look into the mirror of truth. But while in the body complex, unconditional love is not obvious and there are reasons that it is not.
Many have to walk many paths that are not...to find the path that is.
Its easy to fall for powers, greed, pride ect....and by not forgiving them for what they do not know, you actually remain bonded to them through negative emotion.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
At least for me, it was not until I detached from the self for all my own desires, wants and needs....that I could reach Thee.