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posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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The "self" is the most important thing because its what changes your perceiveable paradigm. Understand that we all exist within our own versions of each other, constantly evolving through possibility and choice into newly created paradigms of possibility and choice.

You don't understand why the self is important because you haven't discovered the truth. I will agree that there is many misunderstanding relating towards peoples delusions of the "one paradigm", there is a one paradigm but it is different then what people are considering. We are one but only so much as our relationship within each other is concerned , the one is not we are all one, the one is that we are all within our percievable paradigm.

I hope thats right im at work! hah.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by onequestion]




posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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The problem lies in too many trying to be teachers in which are not destinyed yet to be, hence they go against divine will and go with their own will own perspectives on things.

Many say they understand the meaning of 'Empty your cup' but many do not actually empty their own cups instead hold onto their 'truths' their 'perspective' so prevent the 'creator' within from showing them since they still dont understand meaning of 'One truth'.

We have other work to do now so we leave people to choose for themself what they want to listen to and deny.

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Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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I agree. Well put.

Second line.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 08:51 PM
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Hi Unity...

I guess Im missing your point to your post to me.

I had responded to someone because they were stating that it was a fact that not everyone has a soul, not everyone has a higher self ect...and I made the point that people should NOT just believe something that someone else says...just because they claim they are here to give messages to us, for the Creator.

I do thank you for your post and time....I was just not seeing what your reply had to do with the quote you pasted from me. Am I missing something there?



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 09:33 PM
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The point was, that the Quantum reality of infinity, means everyone who is consciously aware of existence, has infinite levels of Future/Higher selves endlessly in progression.

Behind the veil, time ceases, for the clock ticks in our head and is a construct/program only.

In No Time, all exists simultaneously, though we still have a sense of sequence, progression and order, but that according to our consciousness.

Quantum Physics and Infinity support what you said and believe.

In fact what ET_MAN wrote in his inspired post, was something I had never heard of, that as in No Time we are still aware of the many infinite selves, as we perceive progression, yet, thereotically we are are entire infinite self as well. And this means we are all = to infinity itself.

We cannot join into one soul, nor can we evolve a HS, as in No Time, all that has been, is now, and will be, exists and there is no "moment" when this is not true, endlessly. We always existed, and every moment that has ever been has always existed, and we are in an endless progression with an infinite number of Higher Selves.

And our lives here, are, compared to our Higher Selves in No Time, past events.





[edit on 24-8-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by onequestion
reply to post by jeanvaljean
 


The "self" is the most important thing because its what changes your perceiveable paradigm. Understand that we all exist within our own versions of each other, constantly evolving through possibility and choice into newly created paradigms of possibility and choice.

You don't understand why the self is important because you haven't discovered the truth. I will agree that there is many misunderstanding relating towards peoples delusions of the "one paradigm", there is a one paradigm but it is different then what people are considering. We are one but only so much as our relationship within each other is concerned , the one is not we are all one, the one is that we are all within our percievable paradigm.

I hope thats right im at work! hah.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by onequestion]


We are one, or a segment, or clip in "time" of HS, in endless progression. Infinity means there are infinite selves.

No one needs a master, guru or teacher. Their teacher lies within.

For those seeking, and going within we are all quite capable of discerning who is speaking on a frequency we understand, and learning from each others as equals.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by onequestion
reply to post by jeanvaljean
 


The "self" is the most important thing because its what changes your perceiveable paradigm. Understand that we all exist within our own versions of each other, constantly evolving through possibility and choice into newly created paradigms of possibility and choice.

You don't understand why the self is important because you haven't discovered the truth. I will agree that there is many misunderstanding relating towards peoples delusions of the "one paradigm", there is a one paradigm but it is different then what people are considering. We are one but only so much as our relationship within each other is concerned , the one is not we are all one, the one is that we are all within our percievable paradigm.

I hope thats right im at work! hah.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by onequestion]


We are one, or a segment, or clip in "time" of HS, in endless progression. Infinity means there are infinite selves.

No one needs a master, guru or teacher. Their teacher lies within.

For those seeking, and going within we are all quite capable of discerning who is speaking on a frequency we understand, and learning from each others as equals.

[edit on 24-8-2010 by Unity_99]


Very good example of Self service perspective but your welcome to such views if want to progress in that direction. you have no ability to read energy it has been shown to us clearly in this thread many times and we are getting frustrated at how people are acting towards us.

Your statement are extremely damaging to souls seeking the 'One truth' we advise you stop doing it you are not ready for it. If you believe for even one second that there is no teachers then you will get no where, you want to be such a self focused being then remain here.

Perhaps you can not see truth because you are simply a imprint yourself. not yet established a complex so do not have the ability yet to bring a higherself into existance 'hence we see if you continue as are now no merging occurng for you'.

This may be tough love but someone has to wake you up from your fairy land perspectives specially since they are dangerous to others.

Having parts of truth and passing it onto others when its full of distortion does not serve others only yourself.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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My inner journey, connections and experiences are enough for me, and the lessons that occur. I always have a strong sense of the next step, when someone lights me up with clarity, its the one my own soul experiences, Higher Self and Family have guided me to.

My energy recognition is something I 100% trust and rely on, for it has never let me down.

I respect your own right to choose for yourself, those things that resonate within you, and lead you forward, for progressing in love is really what this is all about.


[edit on 24-8-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 11:07 PM
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If I have to work hard to understand what someone is saying - - like trying to traverse through a labyrinth.

It doesn't work for me.



posted on Aug, 24 2010 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless
 


My inner journey, connections and experiences are enough for me, and the lessons that occur. I always have a strong sense of the next step, when someone lights me up with clarity, its the one my own soul experiences, Higher Self and Family have guided me to.

My energy recognition is something I 100% trust and rely on, for it has never let me down.

I respect your own right to choose for yourself, those things that resonate within you, and lead you forward, for progressing in love is really what this is all about.


[edit on 24-8-2010 by Unity_99]


Your speaking to lizzies but your choice what you want to do we simply are instructed to warn if dangers are seen. Let put it this way the people who are athiests and believe in logic and reason are in a better position than you are now and that is saying something; they arnt even going to understand any of it but you have aloud such distoritons in you that it has crystalized your polarity in STS frequecys and this is what you call your 'higherself' at present.

Again you miss entire point entirely you dont realise that it is not about your perspective it is not about your opinion it is not about what you think resonates with you, it is about your faith in the creator and allowing your freewill to step aside and let the creator show you the truth while you hold on so dearly to your programming you will be bound by it, you are programmed to be lead to finding the creator but once the resonance is their you need to empty the cup and we dont just mean saying it we mean living by it.

You dont want to believe that there is higher densitys which teach those below so that they can rise above, you want to think that you already know everything and dont have to do anything to get to that future the fact is that you have to live out those experiences those choices in order for that future self to even exist hence once the correct choices are made and correct questions then and only then does the higherself begin to merge with the complex and before this even can occur one must develop a complex.

Do not think because you understand a few concepts of quantum reality that you understand the complexity of it, understand that thou those futures may or may not exist in a formless state until made formed that does not mean that you currently are that future you have to work towards it.

Now those who thinks the road home is easy are deluded I will tell you now it is going to be challeging and their is going to come a point in your development where all at once every evil action you have done throughout all of your lifes you are going to be faced with, this process is known as the purification and is the step just before 6th density reality becomes the moment.

Now you do have choice and you have freewill to play with but like we have said while you play with your freewill and choose not to allow the creator to show you by letting go of your identy of self then you will continue to be lost in distortion.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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Your speaking to lizzies but your choice what you want to do we simply are instructed to warn if dangers are seen.


I do know what a lizzie is, and most awake people are monitored by them. They're whats under the matrix when it slips. Have already given testimony to their monitroing in many posts, nor do they even bother hiding, for I can pick up frequencies, signature, and energy density. I send them love and light, and geniunely wish for every soul to be filled with happiness instead of sorrows, and to progress, knowing they have a family that watches over and loves them very much. Then I renounce/denounce negativity, and all violence, oppression, and control/slavery, and tell them they must leave.

In a more recent monitoring, the one did not attempt to give me a threat, but watched, and wasn't a lizzie, something darker and Saturn came to mind. My Higher Self instantly put me in a meadow in a vision with a creek and a still pool of water near me. I will add this was a very macho male being. He looked in the pool, and saw his true inner reflection, a maiden with dark blond/light golden brown hair, and in a flash a guide stepped out, her beloved Family, and offered her his hand. Night time, dream time has brought some of this out too, for its to wake people up, to who they really are, light under their masks, and remember. They came in for reasons, missions, tests, to grow in love, but many lost their way. I do not ever send fear, rather love, to any being monitoring me.


Let put it this way the people who are athiests and believe in logic and reason are in a better position than you are now and that is saying something; they arnt even going to understand any of it but you have aloud such distoritons in you that it has crystalized your polarity in STS frequecys and this is what you call your 'higherself' at present.


Even though you're speaking against your own family of light, and do not seem to recognize this and you do not know me, as those close do, I will not hold these distorted judgments against you for I do love you, and see no need to sending anything but the most sincere wish that you progress in love, for that is what this is all about.




Again you miss entire point entirely you dont realise that it is not about your perspective it is not about your opinion it is not about what you think resonates with you, it is about your faith in the creator and allowing your freewill to step aside and let the creator show you the truth while you hold on so dearly to your programming you will be bound by it, you are programmed to be lead to finding the creator but once the resonance is their you need to empty the cup and we dont just mean saying it we mean living by it.


You have said you are the physical representation of the creator, have you not? You also said above that even athiests, who most certainly do not put faith in a creator would be in a better position than I, who carefully seek for the way constantly, and sensing my way with my insight and inutition, and senses, and who does believe in LOVE, which is my only credo save but what I am led to personally. Seems a littel at odds don't you think. For if in infinity there is a creator, that creator is Love, so I have never precluded the possibility and believe that should there be one, She/He certainly would not demand worship and possess no ego but may be the Love between us. I have posted many times to that effect on other threads.

But in a world like this with so many divisions, that is not important. What is, is Love,and Equality, profound equality, and that everyone stands still, does not react to those things they wish us to, but searches within, raising our frequency and love, and connecting to our HS,and our inner truth.

That is what Yeshua and Buddha taught as well.
It doesnt matter whether I belive in God. But I don't share your beliefs, though its less important our differences there, than how people with different beliefs treat each other.


You dont want to believe that there is higher densitys which teach those below so that they can rise above, you want to think that you already know everything and dont have to do anything to get to that future the fact is that you have to live out those experiences those choices in order for that future self to even exist hence once the correct choices are made and correct questions then and only then does the higherself begin to merge with the complex and before this even can occur one must develop a complex.


I'm from there. Remember true eutopias, and have never once wanted to be here since young childhood, horrified by this world. There is no one in this cosmos = to the Family of Light Beyond, and Higher Selves, in Love. Everyone in this school/universe is still learning and seeking their way back home. Merging with anyone is very unsafe, and from my perspective a trap. You need to seek within yourself. But no matter what happens, all is temporal, and you still will have your family by your side. I will continue praying for you, as I have been doing for this has worried me all along with you.


Do not think because you understand a few concepts of quantum reality that you understand the complexity of it, understand that thou those futures may or may not exist in a formless state until made formed that does not mean that you currently are that future you have to work towards it.


Not as hard as you think, my uncle is a physcist, and my father a math teacher, though I really don't like math, reading up on quantum physics is quite another story. I do understand infinity, my heart lit up for this was what I needed to know.

In inifinity, everything is infinite, and has existed, is existing now, and will exist all at the same time in "No Time", for time doesnt exiset. There is nothing that is formless unless it forever is formless. We exist, and consciously are aware of our existence, we have soul, this is an infinite reality stretching endlessly in all directions. My Future Self and my Future, Future, Future Selves are all my HS. And yours as well. Endlessly. Infinity is wonderful, and we exist as Self, forever. We are!



Now those who thinks the road home is easy are deluded I will tell you now it is going to be challeging and their is going to come a point in your development where all at once every evil action you have done throughout all of your lifes you are going to be faced with, this process is known as the purification and is the step just before 6th density reality becomes the moment.

Now you do have choice and you have freewill to play with but like we have said while you play with your freewill and choose not to allow the creator to show you by letting go of your identy of self then you will continue to be lost in distortion.


The way home, is to love everyone, and that includes encouraging them to trust themselves, to look within, and that all are equal, amongst many other definitions of love. Love and Equality are what it takes to go home. Much Love & Light to you, with no ill feelings in anyway, this disagreement will one day pass, and it never is about agreeing, but about the process of growing in love and seeing past differences.



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posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Honestly we do not see you as a established 'family of light' member yet, sorry if this disapointed you but we can not validate your position, we see you as fallen and as lost in distortions in which newagerism has affected you 'love and light'.

We dont think you are matured and have not learnt enough and are not ready for 4th density STO reality.

We believe your cup is too full too understand what you are being told so we will leave you to your lessons and move on now.

The reason we said athiests are in better position than you is alot of them have not yet decided, they look at it logically and discern greatly, you however are already crystalized in your 'perspective' you decision seems made so hence we hope you are ready for another turn of 3rd density cycle.

Reading your words we see very little that would help anyone at all, to us it looks like word salad of mixed up distortions gathered as absorbed newagerism perspectives 'love and light' which if you understood it origin would not be so keen on it would look for deeper meanings to such concepts.

We feel you may be of good intentions but not really understand the situation that well and have alot learning to do but we feel because of your state of mind you can not go any further and you are creating this blockage yourself, we know that lizzies abducted you and installed some of your programmings and you may not even beaware this happened because they can make it seem 'angelic'.

What is best for you is to drop the delusions of being established in 'family of light' and work presently from your current level fo position so that you indeed can become part of the 'family of light' in the future and take the roll of teacher. Right now you are not at that position you are still being birthed and you are getting ahead of yourself and preventing yourself from coming out the womb.

Understand we do teach brotherly love but we do so in the way of intelligence, wisdom as well as understanding the emotions we understand the concept in all it complexity and simplicity, you are not ready for such a roll.

We advise to look to those who are true teachers giving in this advance information about the densitys in which you yourself have labled wrongly with your so called abilitys.

Again unless we ask for your love and light do not send it to us.

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Adonai Christ bless



[edit on 25-8-2010 by AdonaiChristBless]



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 04:53 AM
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Since you are one with God, or so you say, Adonai, please tell me what happened to Pascal to convince him there is a God.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 05:16 AM
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You don't understand why the self is important because you haven't discovered the truth.


I make a post about narcissism and you tell me that I don't understand the importance of the self, then you inform me that I haven't discovered the truth, implying that you have.
The irony is so delicious that it's giving me a... peak... experience...

Oh wait, no. It's just trapped wind.

And now for a little nugget of wisdom: sometimes, gas is just gas.




posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by 547000
Since you are one with God, or so you say, Adonai, please tell me what happened to Pascal to convince him there is a God.


To convince you there is a God is to take away your lesson in faith brother.

Look within for that answer, you will find the Creator if look deep enough.

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Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by jeanvaljean
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You don't understand why the self is important because you haven't discovered the truth.


I make a post about narcissism and you tell me that I don't understand the importance of the self, then you inform me that I haven't discovered the truth, implying that you have.
The irony is so delicious that it's giving me a... peak... experience...

Oh wait, no. It's just trapped wind.

And now for a little nugget of wisdom: sometimes, gas is just gas.



The Self is not so as important as OneSelf... Peoples focus on self identy is what binds them to the denser vibration realms.

Do not focus on the self less one become service to self...

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Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless

Originally posted by 547000
Since you are one with God, or so you say, Adonai, please tell me what happened to Pascal to convince him there is a God.


To convince you there is a God is to take away your lesson in faith brother.

Look within for that answer, you will find the Creator if look deep enough.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless


I don't know if the Creator is inside me, but I know there is most definitely a Creator. I am convinced there is a God because I sought and found what I was looking for. If you seek truly you will find Him, but I didn't find Him inside me, but I know He's real.

To speak as though you are speaking from God is an error. Unless God really speaks to you, and you are not just posting things you really think are true, you shouldn't take His name in vain. If you are one with the Holy Spirit then you should know all things, even things inside other people's heart, so there is no reason why you cannot know what experience Pascal had or which country I am in. You should know I already have faith in God, but I don't think you are who you say you are. I'm not asking for proof of God--from Him I already received proof--but I'm asking you for proof that you are who you say you are and not a false prophet.



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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I'm sure I read somewhere that his real name was "Long Fingers"

Apparently if you ask for Long Fingers he will return to ask more questions.

He was called: Long Fingers because he could touch Man from High above.

You're just gonna have to trust me on this info




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posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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Respectfully AdonaiChristBless,

Everyone has a right to be part of this discussion and share their thoughts and feelings with others without being looked down at or judged.

There is a difference between having a discussion where people share their thoughts and feelings with others versus making judgments against others.


We will tell you something as well once you judge us we will judge you, to teach you the meaning of 'judge not lest thee be judged'

I don't see others making judgments against you AdonaiChristBless, but from the very first post in this thread you came in making judgments against me and others. You've continued down that path and nobody has come after you making judgments against you.


The problem lies in too many trying to be teachers

You however are in better awareness so we do not see any issue in how you teach even thou we have had disagreements.

You are Welcome to help us develop this medium if done correctly it may increase of productivity of the harvest a thousand fold,

I appreciate your kind words but just to set the record straight, I'm not trying to be a teacher to anyone, I'm here like everyone else on ATS simply sharing my thoughts and feelings.

For me it doesn't really matter what a person thinks about what I share, not to be rude to those who appreciate my posts or anything only to say that I'm just here sharing my thoughts and feelings like anybody else.

Unconditional Love: Love without condition or strings attached.

I Love everyone as they are, as they seek to find their own special way to relate to the world, or the way they feel that is right for them. It is important that someone is the person they want to be and not someone that I or others think they should be.

Follow Your Own Heart!

Respectfully
Best Wishes!



posted on Aug, 25 2010 @ 08:45 AM
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You don't validate me, your validation is of no consequence to me or my life, nor my lifelong experiences, or memories. Your judgments of me are false, and erroneous, and speaks volumes about you.

None the less, I chose not to extend anything but love and prayers for you, considering that choosing to merge with anything is dangerous and if you're really doing this, it could be the source of all of this.




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