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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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you mean those videos in art, showing how to draw a circle freehand, swinging the elbow are pointless?

As an artist, I prefer things to be surreal, my style is portraits, realism that is surreal, mixed media, layered, perhaps, like a collage too, or impressionistic realism, so I prefer freehand circles, they're unique.


O - - not a perfect circle


My nephew is an amazing artist in surrealism.




posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

As for who my contacts are, I knew they were positive, for many reasons, these are the ones I call ET, and I'm after reading what Lou/Sleeper says about the solar system, and knowing there are infinite channels, I'm starting to get a sense where they come from.


I like Lou - - he is funny. I have no 'reason' to believe or not-believe Lou - - - but enjoy his claimed recounts. I do believe what he says is definitely possible.

I've just KNOWN since birth. My mom saw auras and spirits too. I think it runs in families. My mom belonged to a club in the 50's called "The Mental Shop" - - that discussed UFOs and supernatural stuff. One of the guest speakers was: George Adamski. Wish I knew what happened to the book he signed.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 12:42 PM
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The experiences I've had which were ET from early childhood, and some memories. Recalling both greys and what we call nordics, both the tall blonds and also, dark haired, strong chested ones, who I call rangers, heros, they all had expanded consciousness, clarity, purpose, and never let me remember medical procedures, as some do. Won't let me go there at all, the memories I've been given are positive, loving, and even sharing information, not a lot, but when I'm seeking, or feeling some trauma bleed through the veil separating me from the memories concerning them, they step in quickly. And I'm well aware that Greys arent what we think they are either and can be both Bots, cosmic utility maintenance workers, and suits that others wear like in the movie Avatar to interact with us. Because of this, they can have higher or lower consciousness, or polarities in them, so experineces relate to us.

Many ETs are, even the ones that seem harsher or more like tough love experiences, Teachers/Helpers/Managers doing things for our ultimate good. I'm not referring to the negatives or entities that are drawn to the negative vibrations in this warring planet.

In a sense, some maintain only positive behavior, some in the more tough love mode, are mirroring us, and our state of being.

I understand this now.

I only remember the Love.

I have memories that all relate to this, and even have had encouragement, "Yes, you can do it, we believe in you." With a star moving in really close, then vanishing after i felt them and heard this, when I was crying.

I've been taken to that Station near the sun that Lou writes about in his book, its an intergalactic one. Andromeda/Milky Way for sure, probably more, and was perhaps overwhelmed.

For over a year, the experiences related to crafts that we saw, my 19 year old son in particular, but all of us, and greetings/contact. Then experiences, and when I doubted them or the telepathic contact i was having, another craft would appear and my son would see it with me, so it wasnt my hallucination. They really were making sure I understood this was real, they were real, and I needed to be aware.

The last big, external occurrence was a great gift to me. I've had contact, monitoring, messages, and check ups, both surgery that I blanked out just after hearing the words, you were told to clean up your room. Yes I was, in fact, I saw the flash in the air, about 8 foot maybe, as if down the viser, and had contact with the dark haired ones, who told me to clean up my room, and to wake up my son more. Well I did remind him of what we had seen and some of what a friend had shared concerning him, but, there was no way, whatsoever I was going into my bedroom. I knew, don't ask me how, but I knew, inside what it meant.

And I was determined to stay up all night, but in the end, just after 2 am, had to go to bed. I didnt see them, I knew though exactly where the 3 of them was standing, one being a surgery bot at the head of my bed, and I had every instinct to run downstairs but, couldnt. I had to walk to the bed and lie down, and noted it was 2 22 am. There was a cut in my head that I felt, and the words came, about my room, then I blanked out. That was the most surgical moment I've had recall of.

The others are checkups, the covers move, things are done to my head and some device there, and my fingertips get things placed on them, and when I ask who, a quantum answer is given so i go to sleep. Such as, "you do realize this all the past, don't you?"

Now the one at the end of May came out of questioning what trauma might be there, and the contact I had in the morning was all about their role here, and that no matter what memories may return, they were positive, it as an overview about planets, and working with them, ie. akin to a united nations where some are very backwards, yet what can be done is done, though in the process they're overviewing a lot of crimes and horrible things, yet, would that scientist/helper that came in openly declare war, of course not. So what we perceive as "neutrals" are actually "positives".

A true negative, if they were take you, would not return you.

Then for the very first time, aside from a memory in childhood of seeing a grey, but distant with time, and the memories aboard a craft, snapshots not lucid whole clear ones, and the interactions with steatlhed or partly materialized beings, still nothing like being consicously awake, and seeing a solid ET, materialized right in front of you, like any other person would be. That gift was given, and then a really intersting dream about a questionaire, that affected the entire family, and when I woke up and described it to my son, at 1 17 am roughly he said at 1 11 am he felt a huge shift as if he had just been returned, and in my dream, he and my father and brother had been taken and returned moments before, roughly coinciding to that.

One thing that is a sign of True Higher Ups is there humor. And of the Creators/Designers/Teachers from outside the universe, they have incredible wonderful humor and upliftedness. And there was some posts/answers, Lou gave that made me realize, a higher up was here with us, not to mention he isn't the only one. And I was just so grateful, this gratitude just poured out of me, I recognized and knew what this meant.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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1. What is the purpose of deja-vu?

2. Is there really such a thing as a "timeline shift/slip"?

3. Would Jesus really return back to Earth someday like so many Christians believe or is this just wishful thinking?

4. What do you think of Krishna, compared to Buddha and Jesus?

5. Is there a purpose for being gay? Is there a life lesson to be learned from being gay?

6. Is Christianity the most corrupted religion on Earth?

7. Is there really such thing as a "life review" after a person dies?

Thank you so much.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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The experiences I've had which were ET from early childhood, and some memories.


I only had that one experience (that I remember) when I was 5/6. When the tall man who looked like some depictions of Jesus - "grounded and veiled" me.

I have had other experiences - - but no other clear entities.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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With the whole ET issue, Lou Baldwin has a wealth of information and a true understanding. Also, many are failing to understand that who is there is Family, and from a higher level of consciousness, mostly. I'm referring to positives for sure. And when I first woke up 2 1/2 years ago, I understood, how they were the inspiration to us, of where can go if we only open our hearts and minds to what progression means, and let Love in. We need to reach to the next level, try to become a true benevolent here, able to live in a good eutopian existence already.

What is so important to learn about Infinity? Most don't think in Infinite terms, but finite ones? Well, to me, the awareness of Family and that, we have an Infinite potential and capability within us, we can bubble forth more of ourselves from that wellspring inside. This is just the basis/foundation to what spirituality is and gives us a way to help/strive for and turn our weaknesses into strengths, such as the time my Higher Self who came from within me and was without me as a person too, helped me when I was sick and reactive to a mess that had occurred, saying, "Remember you are the sunlight, be a happy loving ray," and I felt this inner ray of light filling me and the whole room lit up, I suddenly was well and able to accomplish the task with cheerfulness, and tend to the family.

In other words, we can do it, its in us to do it. And in zero time, we already have so this is our potential really.

Edit to add: The bathtime inspirations hit again, and its important to express other aspects, when sharing the possibilities and the inspiration, because for some, reincarnation in itself makes them feel as if they're off the hook and so they don't overcome within, they're not feeling urged to reach new levels in themselves, instead they allow themselves to keep losing ground, going the other way, and harming themselves and others in the process.

There are always consequences for harming self or others, for going against our own conscience and not attempting to set things right. For we have an inner guidance and we have a conscience, so we have that inner feeling that we're off track. If one harms, hurts, murders, rapes, tortures, abuses, others, and causes suffering not only to them, but everyone in contact with them and harms their potential as well, robbing them of all they could have done, then they're going to go through this themselves. To me, thinking we're off the hook is prolonging the intense suffering and pain needlessly. Rather knowing our Infinite potential and Family should be the biggest gift, of which we are so appreciative, and make us pour our hearts out, and seek for ways to improve each day, because you don't want to let anyone down here on earth, who you're with, for there are no coincidences, or your Family above who love you and are encouraging you. Even if you didn't do anything really harmful to another, but didn't challenge yourself to grow, didn't attempt to make a difference, stayed still, this would be an enormous let down, and make us feel very ashamed of ourselves when we wake up.

So, its not about beign off any hooks, its not a permission system for slacking. This world is a world of pain and suffering, for many, injustice, starvation, violence, war, oppression. Look at the good things we have, these gifts, and in a world like this, don't throw those gifts away, but realize, this was given you to share, these skills, positioning, it means you were meant to make a difference, we're here for that truly, to grow. So standing still isnt a part of it, hurting others is definitely not. They won't like the place they will go to.

And physical cycles, not referring to souls, but cosmic cycles may very well be put into place as a physical reality reminder that everything is mirroring us, (not said in an egocentric earth as the center of the universe but a general term) and that consequences are akin to the mirror. That cycles can occur that reflect how lost we are as Family here, or be milder according to our awareness and Love, and making the effort. These cylces might be there so people understand, slacking isn't the right way to treat your gifts.
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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 02:32 PM
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Hello





You asked me if I believed in God/One. No, I don't any longer, though if one calls the Infinite Family that is progressed and outside the Universe, the Creators/Designers/Teachers God, because they need to have the Parent/child relationship, so be it. However its very strongly in my belief that they do not prefer to be called God, they don't think of themselves as God(s).


The infinite energy consciousness does not have a name or label...is just is and the term 'IAM' suits it better then anything. I use 'God' because it describes a singularity and not a plural, in its perfectness. It has no need for progression, for its perfect. But as Thee consistently 'is be-ing' Thee does 'ex-press'. This cycles an order and in that order...before the conscious expression returns back to its source, purification must occur of what thee's nature truly is. Your true self, does desire to be found though...for it is the only part of your being that truly is not finite and is not just an illusion. Just as we see seasons and cycles bring about purification of rebirth...and death being a part of it...death is not an end...its just a part of the cycle of energy consciousness 'being' in expression.

There is a part of you that needs no progression...the energy consciousness holds the perfect nature of love within you. It strives for harmony within its expressions amongst eachother.

I dont understand this idea of an infinite being needing to progress. Progress in what? To where? Energy consciousness is perfect as is. Only in its expressions, the seemingly illusions of being 'separate' does there need to be something, which is more or less just the Spirit shedding what it is not...purifying itself in its own expressions of 'being'.




Its just that I sense an inner sorrow is the right word, something in you that is hesitant, and you'd have to know this yourself really what its about, and I don't mean hesitant about your beliefs, because I feel you have some strongly held ones, its something else. And it brings me to the question, why you would even wish to not exist? What would make you feel all are called to this sacrifice? Why is Love giving all of yourself, rather than sharing with another, in a win/win, both are happy, where you count too?


I think your misunderstanding...what I understand. I just see the oneness of all that is...and I see that being a part of this 'one' in expression, as 'me a self'....humbles me so. Its not that I dont wish to exists...but I see 'why' and 'how' my existence 'became'. I am not a self that is separate from all life....but my true self is the very source of life and only there do I find the truest nature of 'being' for only it is ongoing. My true self has no name, it is infinite and it is within all other life that surrounds me. Through my eyes...it see's its expression as a 'whole'. I am a part of a the energy consciousness in 'expression' and I am ok with that. When you see that your true self is within all life, reverence for all life 'becomes you'....it becomes your nature. To find the divine light that is within you, in all things around you...holds a harmonic vibration that I just know and feel is of true purpose of 'being' a part of Thee. I only offer back to earth what came from earth...such as my biological body. If I had to walk a path of showing that this biological life is not what I live for...but I live for the Spirit which is the true self of me...I would. Not for others...but because it is the truest nature of me to do so...if I know what I am living/being for. Biologically, I am of many things...Earth, minerals, Sun ect. Spiritually, I am of one thing and I share that one thing with all life around me. In Spirit....Im not a separate self at all...only my desires of being a biological body in a illusion of separate spiritual existence would I desire to continue in separation amongst my true self, of Spirit. Discovering what I truly am a part of and that I would not be in this experience/existence without Thee....was humbling beyond measure. I only offer back to the source, what is of Thee. Discovering that my Spirit...is no different then the Spirit of life within all things....allows me to be OK with what I am...a phase of perfect Spirit, in expression and I am a part of a much larger expression....the Universe. The potential is not about 'self' as in separate from all things...is about ONE SELF, in whole, in unity, coming to harmony amongst itself in 'being'. To look out at 'life' and see life is a part of a 'whole' is a beautiful thing to me. I dont find anything sorrowful about it...unless I would not be ready to adjust to such. This is not something I discovered overnight...it was a process of experiences and understanding. Its not something I would just share with anyone either...for many are not ready to understand they are a 'part' of something and that they 'share' something with all other forms of life, which in Spirit, makes them ONE...at the deepest core of our being. Many are still going through the 'desires' of being a 'self'....an 'I'...separate from other life 'being'. This is where I hesitate...for I know ....what I say can not be just 'told' to another. Its something that we will all have to understand in our own time and way. I only share it with others that offer deep thoughts of 'being' when I feel that the perspective I come from may bring forth something someone that is reading may be in need of considering.

I believe that as we all can reach that point of going past the desires of 'self'....we will all see the same revelation of 'being'. I know many say they 'go within' and find their truths...but depending on intent and desire of self....will depend on how deep they can go. If one still feels the need to explore being a 'self' then that is surely what they should explore. As I walked in the footsteps of the decisions of the one they call Jesus....and why he chose to do what he did...instead of fight for his life here....I gained a new perspective of what we are to live for and what we are all of, in Spirit. Its not like I came up with this 'idea' because I wished to 'rid of self' or not be alive or to not exists. I love life...I love 'being'....I love the simple joys of good company, good food, and expressing myself and seeing others express their self. I can see the same light that is within me, in all life...and that is so awesome to me now. As a self....Im very limited. My true self, of Spirit, is not and I dont desire to have control over the Spirit within me. I hope that I can focus enough for the Spirit...to guide me...instead of my 'self' trying to control it. For me now....it just is what it is. I just hope to let the Spirit shine through me, and for it to find the harmony amongst 'life' that it is seeking, such as unity amongst us here on this planet...such as unity between us an the sphere that shelters us and feeds us. Seeing how all of the expression of thee...can work as one, in awareness that it shares a 'true self' of Spirit....brings us to our highest and more prime potentials and possibilities to 'be'. As everyone strives to be a 'self'....there will be division.

Ill ramble on along now...


Feel like Im going in circles


Wishing everyone a great day!
LV
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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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Lou Baldin, not Baldwin, sorry for the typo, its too late to correct it now. That looks so much better.

Here's a link to John Lear's favorite quotes from Sleeper/Lou Baldin, just scroll down and you will see John's Favorite Sleeper Comment pages!
sleeperlou.proboards.com...
John's Favorite Sleeper Comments. Just scroll down to see them.


@ LeoVirgo: that light within, you called the Divine Light, but in essence our pure inner spring of Light, I'm connected. That seeking/searching, is no longer the push, the push now, what seems to be what is worked on, is my relations to others, and absolute appreciation for everyone and all of them as well. And to share, nudged and pushed even into shining light and planting seeds of awareness.
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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
I use 'God' because it describes a singularity and not a plural, in its perfectness. It has no need for progression, for its perfect.


I respect your reasons and beliefs - - - in the way you choose to present them.

I avoid the label "God" - - because of the negative impact of organized religion - - which I feel is man made - - mostly for political reasons.

The only time I use God (by choice) is in honoring someone like you.

I prefer Creator or "the One" - - because it fits my belief. My belief does require progression - - there is no perfection (except in the reason for Creation).



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Lou Baldin, not Baldwin, sorry for the typo, its too late to correct it now. That looks so much better.

Here's a link to John Lear's favorite quotes from Sleeper/Lou Baldin, just scroll down and you will see John's Favorite Sleeper Comment pages!


Did I say Baldwin? Sorry.

Yes - I was there on his thread almost from the beginning. I am also on his own personal blog/forum.

I am very much aware of his 'story' and John Lear's 'story' - - - and John Lear's involvement.

I was a regular listener to Art Bell before he retired.

My mom's friend was personal friends with Ruth Montgomery and Gina Cerminara. My uncle was a lecturer for the Edgar Cayce ARE.

I' really have been at this for a while.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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Pretty sure it was me typing the wrong spelling, just couldn't go back and edit the time window was up for that. It wasn't you, you didn't do it. It was me and there is no blushing emoticon.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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Pretty sure it was me typing the wrong spelling, just couldn't go back and edit the time window was up for that. It wasn't you, you didn't do it. It was me and there is no blushing emoticon.


Uh - - we should have one.

I've followed Lou - - and what he says makes perfect sense to me.

It does just feel right.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
I use 'God' because it describes a singularity and not a plural, in its perfectness. It has no need for progression, for its perfect.


I respect your reasons and beliefs - - - in the way you choose to present them.

I avoid the label "God" - - because of the negative impact of organized religion - - which I feel is man made - - mostly for political reasons.

The only time I use God (by choice) is in honoring someone like you.

I prefer Creator or "the One" - - because it fits my belief. My belief does require progression - - there is no perfection (except in the reason for Creation).



Hi Annee


Just to clarify where you are coming from. You said that there is no perfection except in the 'reason' for creation....so do you find that this 'creator/the one/emanator....is not perfect? As expression/creations OF Thee...we need progression to of course....but what I was saying was that the creator/the one/emanator/god (if you will) does not 'create' to progress in itself...for it has no need to progress...it is infinite without beginning and end.

I would love your feedback and thoughts on 'what is in need of progression' and if the creator/infinite one/energy consciousness...is perfect.

And just want to add...Im sure you have noticed I try to use 'infinite one' or emantor or energy consciousness to describe Thee but I sometimes feel that I need to use the word god (which is so distorted with many different meanings) to show the singularity of 'one'.

Thanks and I hope all is well with you and yours!
LV



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 11:38 PM
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that light within, you called the Divine Light, but in essence our pure inner spring of Light, I'm connected. That seeking/searching, is no longer the push, the push now, what seems to be what is worked on, is my relations to others, and absolute appreciation for everyone and all of them as well. And to share, nudged and pushed even into shining light and planting seeds of awareness.


So do you feel like this Divine Light is something that we all share, or do you see it as we all have a separate divine light...like a separate spirit?


If the Divine Light is the same within us all, having the same nature....why would we all find different understandings if that is truly what we are all 'tuned' into? If its not different, and we all hold this same divine light within us...isnt that a sort of 'oneness'?

Always my best to you!
LV



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 02:22 AM
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Why do others cling to this idea there is no center....when everything you can observe in the design of this physical existence shows a 'center'.

If you truly want to understand where many in the world are coming from then you really need to take the time to watch the below video in order to better understand what you consider to be the physical existence or what you call 'matter.'

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Some are viewing everything as REAL 100% and physical and don't realize that it's only their brain and electrical signals that are giving them a taste and picture of their reality/channel/station they live in.

'They miss the infinite channels/dimensions/stations beyond this tiny grain of sand universe and they also miss how they are truly/really perceiving their own reality which they call 'physical existence' or 'matter' which is nothing but photons and light entering into their eyes/retina than converted into electrical signals to their brain where their brain like a TV with a cable hooked to it throws a picture together for them to see and perceive their reality/existence/dimension/channel/station.


"WARNING! The subject of the film that you're about to watch reveals a crucial secret of your life. You should watch it very attentively for it contains a subject that is liable to make fundamental changes on your outlook on the material world.

The content of this film is not just a different approach or a philosophical thought: It is a fact which is also proven by Science today!"



Things are not always as they may seem and nothing is truly physical or solid as you suggest.




One is a Limit in Infinity, and is a Finite understanding. Both Nonlocality, and No Limit are hallmarks of Infinity. Ie. there is no measuring stick, no middle, center, or portion that can be measured, for wherever you would select, you still have an Infinity ahead, behind and in all conceivable directions. And also, If you were to place one Huge Circle on a blank piece of paper, and imagine this is One, there is no point even, of imagining this One is endless and goes beyond the edges of the paper, for it is a symbol of One Consciousness/Object. If One Consciousness Is Aware of Itself as One, that is a Limit. There must be Infinite One's, and in zero time/no time, Infinite one's in segments or clips/portions of that infinite journey, within that One.

The mountain is in your mind, not in the Horizon, the chair is in your mind, not supporting you at all. There is no chair, there is no mountain, there is no moon, either. This is a hologram, and there are infinite channels/densities, if we have 3d, that means, infinite more and space-time channels based on orbit where there is no orbit.


Food for thought Quotes by Einstein!

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."

"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school."

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

"Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."

Much Love & Light to you!
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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo

Hi Annee


Just to clarify where you are coming from. You said that there is no perfection except in the 'reason' for creation....so do you find that this 'creator/the one/emanator....is not perfect? As expression/creations OF Thee...we need progression to of course....but what I was saying was that the creator/the one/emanator/god (if you will) does not 'create' to progress in itself...for it has no need to progress...it is infinite without beginning and end.

LV


I see that as religious jargon.

I see it more scientifically - I guess. An energy evolved into consciousness - - intelligent consciousness - - that creates by thought energy.

How perfect are your thoughts? Do you experiment with your thoughts? Are all your thoughts positive? If you created something from purity - would it remain pure through ions of incarnations?

I think we are under the control of sub-creators. That we are so far removed from the innocence and purity of The Creator - - - its not really reasonable to think at this time of returning to the ultimate beginnings.

Having my own thoughts in order is my primary goal - - - for advancement to a higher evolved world/society.

Its like the question: "what is Love" - - - - "what is Perfection"?



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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Unity....Ill be straight up with you. I think that video...is made by a very dark group of beings.

There are many things about the video that dont make sense. Sure...the world is 'compressed energy'. The further down the line of 'emanation' the more compressed and fine tuned energy becomes and hence us, as energy consciousness...is the later in this 'energy world'. It IS all energy.....but that does not make it 'technical energy' like computers ect like what that video implies (lifeless is what it implies/absent of Spirit) and a soul would take a lot longer to find its way/its true self/what its a part of.....if a soul takes the divine life of all things out of it.

The idea that this is all a simulation is not proven in any way...yes, our brains are awesome and we are just now seeing how amazing they are....but many people see the same things...can touch the same things....can eat and partake of food together and then the food gives us nourishment (or gut troubles depending on the food :duh
and that food (that held 'life') passes through us. I think this idea in this video is robbing seekers of their divine right to find their true self which is divine, perfect, and that they share this 'self' with everything around them.

For a compressed energy consciousness to observe the compressed energy world around it and that it is a part of.....I see nothing wrong with the way our brain works and intakes the energy around us. I see a 'energy cascading and as it cascades....it compresses into a more finely focused expression. As it becomes in a many expressions...eventually the energy compresses and becomes a conscious being that is able to observe all its other expressions , that is, when that energy consciousness can become aware that its not a separate self at all from all of this....but it is OF it.

But that video, has taken the divine life right out of all things. To me, you cant get any darker.

Im sorry if that is offensive to anyone but I find that to be very dangerous.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeoVirgo

Hi Annee


Just to clarify where you are coming from. You said that there is no perfection except in the 'reason' for creation....so do you find that this 'creator/the one/emanator....is not perfect? As expression/creations OF Thee...we need progression to of course....but what I was saying was that the creator/the one/emanator/god (if you will) does not 'create' to progress in itself...for it has no need to progress...it is infinite without beginning and end.

LV


I see that as religious jargon.

I see it more scientifically - I guess. An energy evolved into consciousness - - intelligent consciousness - - that creates by thought energy.

How perfect are your thoughts? Do you experiment with your thoughts? Are all your thoughts positive? If you created something from purity - would it remain pure through ions of incarnations?

I think we are under the control of sub-creators. That we are so far removed from the innocence and purity of The Creator - - - its not really reasonable to think at this time of returning to the ultimate beginnings.

Having my own thoughts in order is my primary goal - - - for advancement to a higher evolved world/society.

Its like the question: "what is Love" - - - - "what is Perfection"?



No...my thoughts are not all perfect. But I have experienced a 'place in thought' that if one tunes in and silences the mind there can be a tuning into a 'divine self' and I do think if the world could all do that....we would find a 'united revelation' or united thought of what the world needs and where to go from here. I do very much believe, there is a ONE THING we are all connected to and that one thing...is divine, perfect, without beginning and end, always just 'is'.

I dont agree that sub creators are in control. We could be from a blood line of beings that still are connected to 'here' due to remaining attached to earthly attributes and the complexity of how those could influence us and effect us is beyond my words....is possible....but I must say also, they are not in control of what matters most, our thoughts, our feelings, our spiritual desires. Everyone can humble their heart, be honest in their mind...seek for intent of all life and not just 'self' life....and find the Holy Spirit/Divine Spirit.

I dont think we are ready to return to where it all began either....but I will say, I was shown some amazing things this past week that I have not shared with anyone....and us, as the MOST COMPRESSED and FINELY TUNNED energy forms as well as US being CONSCIOUSNESS....ARE a huge part of something that will 'be-come'. We cant imagine what it could be....for its not already a part of our collective memory. I was shown though....its not anything that we know....we cant observe what we are 'becoming' "out there" somewhere for it has not 'become' yet. On the scales of time....it would be called 'something new'. What ever it is....will emanate from the former...just as we have emanated from the former compressed energy (Earth, Moon, Minerals, Animals, Sun, System (order), Galaxy (integration), ect. So something sits anew on the horizon....in the 'mind of Thee' it already is....the 'prime image' of what we are 'becoming' is already 'being' but just has not emanated 'outwardly' yet in a compressed energy expression. As I tried to start imagining what 'we' could be becoming....I received a humble 'smile' .....but then a humble bow and blush and a 'you cant begin to imagine' what is 'be-coming'.

When I describe all of the above lke smile, bow, ect....these are through 'feeling'...an energy vibration of sending 'feeling'.

Thanks for sharing...my best to you
LV



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
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Unity....Ill be straight up with you. I think that video...is made by a very dark group of beings.

There are many things about the video that dont make sense. Sure...the world is 'compressed energy'. The further down the line of 'emanation' the more compressed and fine tuned energy becomes and hence us, as energy consciousness...is the later in this 'energy world'. It IS all energy.....but that does not make it 'technical energy' like computers ect like what that video implies (lifeless is what it implies/absent of Spirit) and a soul would take a lot longer to find its way/its true self/what its a part of.....if a soul takes the divine life of all things out of it.


Oh Great!

Now you're gonna make me watch that video



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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There is no way around clearing one's karmic record through other people's actions as suggested above. Consequence to action or (karma) as people define it to be is based on each individual's personal life choices/decisions - experiences/actions.


The karmic record is being manipulated by those who have control over the unsuspecting. That is why some who sow good seed, reap a bitter fruit. If each person beared their own burden the world would not be in such a mess.

How else could the wicked rule?




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