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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless

you do so at risk of your own karma, but that is your decision you made the same mistakes in atlantis and may have to repeat the entire cycle because of doing it again this was your second chance and you followed the same programming and didnt reprogram it like did last time. You hve eternity to do this but will have to rebegin so lose all progress made this is the consequence of such.

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Adonai Christ bless


You see Unity as one from Atlantis?

I see her surrounded by water. I suppose that could be Atlantis - - as it is claimed it was an island.




posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless

Remember to truely empty our cup we have to overcome the I as in we must entirely overcome who we are everything we have learned and be as a child a totally empty mind this is extremely difficult and only a few in history truely achieved it but doing so allows God to fill you in truth the holyspirit . . .


Absolutely 100% true. I've been doing it so long its automatic for me. (which is quite a feat with all the Earthly stuff that's gone on in my life).

I release - - like the air going out of a balloon - - leaving an empty vacuum - - to receive guidance from the "Holy Spirit" (or what ever label one wants to put on it). I actually do this continuously - - - kind of like "walking meditation".


. . . even I have only had a glimpse of such divine truth. It was enough to allow me to offer it to others, but I am realizing now I may have taken the wrong approach, I think warning another that their view may be a danger to them and presenting the reasons why is a good thing to do, like a parent warning a child about a hot stove, but I think my mistake is that I pushed to change the person, as in, even if I knew, that they would have consequence. Enlightened, I know that I should let them find out the hard way, but compassionately and because of ego I wanted to prevent them from suffering, but the higher thing to do is only to warn and then let them learn on their own. I'm realizing this lately and also realizing that if I don't step aside no matter how highly developed a being I may be, I can compromise my own position and be stuck in karma cycle myself.

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Adonai Christ bless


Thank you ACB.

Just because one offers a hand - does not mean the recipient is ready to take it TODAY (or even in this cycle).

I find that presenting an idea - in such a way - to at least cause a "crack in the brain of consciousness" - to get a thinking process going tends to work pretty well. Can't make them take the first step - - but can offer them the "road".



According to amenti your far from the enlightened state hence why you have not experience the glipse of ascension which all along that path will experience dont tell me you have cause in Amenti it says peoples progress, there alot people dont know about me and why I speak with authority I am in a different boat than you all; so your ego is confusing you. I dont think you understand by having a glipse you can know who actually has become one with christ in the future and hasnt and I have not met many who achieved it this cycle hence why the unique opportunity of us interacting allows for alteration if people listen this is rare and is a grace but people have option to refuse and outcome will play out as it is writen for them, which is what I revealed earlier in thread.

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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Jesus, Buddha and all other truth sayers were all trying to get the message across that we are all the messiah. Each of us are divine beings.
If you stay in the presence of god, which is now, which is the only place(now-here) that you can use the eyes to see and ears to hear.
When we miss the mark, miss now, we live in the shadow, as the light is not in the past or the future, only right here and right now really exists.
Life is not something you have. Life is what you are.
Aliveness is felt here.
We all have the same name - that we call ourselves. 'I', we could also be called here, now, this, presence, awareness or aliveness.
Paradise now. Lost is somewhere else, maya, illusion, delusion.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Jesus, Buddha and all other truth sayers were all trying to get the message across that we are all the messiah. Each of us are divine beings.
If you stay in the presence of god, which is now, which is the only place(now-here) that you can use the eyes to see and ears to hear.
When we miss the mark, miss now, we live in the shadow, as the light is not in the past or the future, only right here and right now really exists.
Life is not something you have. Life is what you are.
Aliveness is felt here.
We all have the same name - that we call ourselves. 'I', we could also be called here, now, this, presence, awareness or aliveness.
Paradise now. Lost is somewhere else, maya, illusion, delusion.


I reply only that this can be said again!


Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Jesus, Buddha and all other truth sayers were all trying to get the message across that we are all the messiah. Each of us are divine beings.
If you stay in the presence of god, which is now, which is the only place(now-here) that you can use the eyes to see and ears to hear.
When we miss the mark, miss now, we live in the shadow, as the light is not in the past or the future, only right here and right now really exists.
Life is not something you have. Life is what you are.
Aliveness is felt here.
We all have the same name - that we call ourselves. 'I', we could also be called here, now, this, presence, awareness or aliveness.
Paradise now. Lost is somewhere else, maya, illusion, delusion.


And again!


Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Jesus, Buddha and all other truth sayers were all trying to get the message across that we are all the messiah. Each of us are divine beings.
If you stay in the presence of god, which is now, which is the only place(now-here) that you can use the eyes to see and ears to hear.
When we miss the mark, miss now, we live in the shadow, as the light is not in the past or the future, only right here and right now really exists.
Life is not something you have. Life is what you are.
Aliveness is felt here.
We all have the same name - that we call ourselves. 'I', we could also be called here, now, this, presence, awareness or aliveness.
Paradise now. Lost is somewhere else, maya, illusion, delusion.


And yet again!

WOW

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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What you are can not answer for it has no words, it is transparent. Look at yourself (the self) without the mirror whenever you remember, where ever you are.
You will mourn that person you thought you were, for you have to die to be. Don't be afraid to die, this is what has stopped humanity for so long, it has been known by many for so long. Do not fear the feeling, it is just a feeling arising presently. It does feel like death, it is the death of the false self. When the false self is seen and recognized, the one that sees will stand alone. Alone and all one, is the same.
Be now and here, be nowhere, be no-one, have none. Be all that is. Only this moment is. This is all there is.
Throw every 'thing' away, ideas, concepts, words.
What are you?
There is no answer to this, this can not be answered with words.
Look at yourself. Not the past you, future you. Do it now.
You are already home.
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless

you do so at risk of your own karma, but that is your decision you made the same mistakes in atlantis and may have to repeat the entire cycle because of doing it again this was your second chance and you followed the same programming and didnt reprogram it like did last time. You hve eternity to do this but will have to rebegin so lose all progress made this is the consequence of such.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless


You see Unity as one from Atlantis?

I see her surrounded by water. I suppose that could be Atlantis - - as it is claimed it was an island.


Indeed so where you and making same mistakes as well. The true path is not easy to follow and those who do it know who else is on it, hence ive not found many who have achieved it many go alterative directions into the infinity of this fallen worlds in this fallen universe. You all have been repeating your mistakes through this entire cycle because you are forced into the same programming you had and have to try overcome it through the aids offered 'Example is Me' hence if we are denied as writen in Amenti no alteration of your fate is possible, in grace of God the cosmic fire will give you a clean slate but at the cost of total deletion of your social memory complex, the records of your failures are always stored 'imagine you play out a series of lessons within a enviroment running a scenerio' you can do this for eternity and are bound to that density until you learn the lessons. Hence truth is you all need help but dont know this and if dont wake up soon before the harvest is completed your only fate is the prophercised lake of fire, I am not kidding this event is going to happen it is writen the future as you call it is outside of this cycle.

I am not from this universe nor is it even possible to properly describe my origin, people can go quite complex describing this entire universe if they like and it natural cycles, but they must if ever want to be free remove their aeon and archon attachments because these beings which are linked to you are feeding on you and will do so for eternity until you figure it out, their is beings of great evil we locked up in ancient past after the catalysm of atlantis which are being freed, other beings like the false Light behind love and light newagerism philosphy is growing powerful and binding souls to it false holographic heaven which could be used to imprison souls in a false deception for eternity allowing it to feed on them, such beings gain power by the ignorance of the souls experiencing, every thought and every believe system mankind has had because you are actually a spark of Adonai and have infinite power over this universe, you have created across it infinity of dimensions.

Because of such a mass of creation you can easily be lured by your own thoughtformed constructs into giving away your power and being used as a type of food by them because you retain the spiritual energy of Adonai, they do not, this is the kingdom you wanted now you are bound to it until you learn.

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Adonai Chirst bless
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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I was never in Atlantis, but saw this great flood when I was taken by force, away from my family on Mars, as a child, it was a huge memory return.

Water is a very important element to me, something to do with dolphins and another memory that came, when i listened to dolphin sounds on youtube, which I've shared. The only memories I've been allowed are all off planet ones.

@ACB: I have a great deal of faith that whatever is to come, for each of us, we're all in the best of hands, with a wonderful team watching over, and that no matter occurs, it will be the right next step I feel that every hair on our heads are counted.

Also, I do not incrue any karma by believing any positive thing, or by using words that Yeshua himself used.
For those who believe in karma the way some do, for even that word means different things to different people, it is a matter of intent to harm another, or negative behavior. I believe in mercy, compassion and forgiveness of self and others.
edit on 27-10-2010 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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There is no right path/ wrong path, if there is any path at all, you are on it!
Suffering will be experienced if there is the belief that this could be the wrong path. There is absolutely no way you could ever know, if the right/wrong decision was made. You could make stories about how it would of been better if.... But really they are just stories.
Is it not peace we are all looking for? That 'at home' feeling.
Stories will never make you content.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Just wanted to repeat something....




You are already home


Home is...what you make it truly.

Some just refuse to hang their hat up


But like you said...this choice is not wrong...for it will offer them something, somehow. They want 'home' to be something else, something outside of where they are...something more or better then.

But oh the truth I see in the simple words of 'the kingdom is within'.

They look for it in the future...they look for it after this life. It stand before them, it stands right within them.
edit on 27-10-2010 by LeoVirgo because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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Home is here, now.
Home is what you are.
Life is what you are.
Life is sensation.
Sensation appearing as form.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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Well my prior post was going to be my last as my point has been made and the energy expunged is no longer worth it. People can make their choices from here out. I also have some work to do myself as I have programs running that need to be cleared out going into 2011. Apparantly I ruffle your feathers though as you post to no one else in the thread but me and this point. So I will respond and be done for a while. Making spiritual preparations heading into next year is a big deal.

Sorry to tell you brother but I haven't spent nearly three years on ATS to up and decide at this moment to role play for this specific thread. I was sent here by the Council as they contracted me to do so and I act as a conduit for them as well. We do not have regular meetings like you supposition me with and I have never said that. Label it role play if you choose, but there are millions and millions of beings just like me on the planet. I am not even close to the only contracted being here for this mission.

The first distortion of Oneness is Free Will. People are always entitled to that and are free to disregard anything else. What I have said is that there is One Truth and eventually to merge once again, alignment with it is necessary. The One Truth is not my truth, there is no my truth. From the beginning, I have also said that I am far from all knowing and to discern me. Nothing on this planet is 100% accurate. However, when I see cosmic blasphemy, I will combat it with the same force it is being represented.

You sure love pointing out my personal information don't you? Anyone who has followed the thread knows that I already mentioned having my own restaurant. Of course, I haven't given them the combination to the safe, I can do that if you like. But I'm glad you did mention it again. It goes to show that for my entire professional life, I have chose a business where I am in direct service to others. Considering that I've now been in for 14 years, I can't imagine how many people I've served. Not to mention how many special connections that have been made, spiritual advancements with others, growth, changing people's lives, etc. However, you do not know what is happening with it, so you are telling me what to do from an uninformed position.

You may think my cup is full when in fact it is quite far from it. There are things that have happened in this thread that have required mirroring of a different sort. However, my paradigm is constantly changing, taking the old with me that resonates and leaving everything that doesn't. I push myself to learn everyday and have even been using a toroidal meditation which simulates the emptying of the cup with the filling of it by the Creator. If you look at some of my first posts on ATS, you would be able to distinguish the awakening I have gone through over the past several years. It isn't going to stop until this is all over. It's impossible to be all knowing in the third density. I'm far from the most advanced being and will happily admit that. Again, I will stand against cosmic blasphemy, and there is a big difference in that.

There was no need to repeat yourself that many times, I get it, I'm role playing. Ha, I wish I had the energy for that. But if that is how you have to label me than so be it. A lot of your post seemed to be you saying the same thing over and over. Know this though, you do not know me outside of the internet, you cannot speak for the rest of my life for this is a small part of it. There has been much more success in teaching others one and one, face to face. With teaching, you become a better teacher the more you do it. So I have no issues looking in the mirror trying to improve myself on a daily basis. That's why I'm taking the last two months of the year to clear out my remaining programs. At least I can admit that I have them. At the same time, I have no issue shining the light upon darkness. You may think this is about me, I could care less about me. I'm not here for me or I never would have came in the first place. This dark planet is a rather painful environment. Now have I gotten my point across in certain posts in a manner which I shouldn't have? Absolutely. Will I come back better and stronger to be of greater service? You know it. It was tough to watch innocent bystanders receiving the deception which they have. But I know at this point, it is their own choice.

This has all been a learning experience and a good one at that. It was certainly "in the cards". Good luck to you brother.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
There is no right path/ wrong path, if there is any path at all, you are on it!
Suffering will be experienced if there is the belief that this could be the wrong path. There is absolutely no way you could ever know, if the right/wrong decision was made. You could make stories about how it would of been better if.... But really they are just stories.
Is it not peace we are all looking for? That 'at home' feeling.
Stories will never make you content.



Does that apply to both Spiritual and Physical Earth?

Does that apply to the density you are currently in physical and the density you are physically in?

If your Spirit Energy visited a different level (density) - - would that still apply?

Could you be from another physical density before you incarnated into this density?

If you were born in one country - - then moved to another to live - - and maybe even moved to another - - - would "home" be where you are physically? Or would "home" be your native country where you grew up and spent the majority of your life?



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Annee
 


I was never in Atlantis, but saw this great flood when I was taken by force, away from my family on Mars, as a child, it was a huge memory return.

Water is a very important element to me, something to do with dolphins and another memory that came, when i listened to dolphin sounds on youtube, which I've shared. The only memories I've been allowed are all off planet ones.


Yeah - - I totally see you surrounded by water.

And I do get a stronger connection to Mars then Atlantis for you. But many believe when Mars lost its atmosphere some came to Earth. So could be both.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:10 PM
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I really can't agree with being "forced" to "not use" materials, sound, light, spirit, and mind to further our understanding as human beings. Oppression, in any form, is evil. Anything which subverts knowledge and learning is an offense to God. ANYTHING...

It is my "Divine Destiny and Providence" to "divide the right from the wrong" to discern the truth. No one can hinder this, since it is my destiny and also humanity's.

2 Timothy 2:

14Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

My given name is Timothy. I am also adopted; my biological mother also named me Timothy.

Two given names which are the same. 11:11

The authority is given to do these things. I gain no profit from affirming the truth; truth can stand on its own, it needs no props. It is FORBIDDEN to hinder mankind from seeking the truth and using it to be better able to serve God and achieve His goals and wills? I will listen to any arugment, but after two unsuccessful and non-sequitor answers, I must reject it as heretical. There is nothing I can do, it has been given as a commandment.

Trekwebmaster



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:10 PM
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You are home no matter where you think you are. If thinking and imaginings stop, where are you? Right here.
Always, right here and now.
This is where God lives.
The 'at home' feeling, can be felt where ever you are. Look and see, listen to the noises, hear them. This can only be now, this is the presence.
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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One thing concerning "Free-Will."

Free-will is given to God's creations; without this they would not be sentient or have a soul. Free-will is a fundamental right (birthright) as a human or any other being, but as long as in that being does not USE his free-will to subvert the TRUTH or others in any way, form, or fashion, in finding the TRUTH in and for themselves.

To do anything other is FORBIDDEN.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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I was never in Atlantis, but saw this great flood when I was taken by force, away from my family on Mars, as a child, it was a huge memory return.

Water is a very important element to me, something to do with dolphins and another memory that came, when i listened to dolphin sounds on youtube, which I've shared. The only memories I've been allowed are all off planet ones.

@ACB: I have a great deal of faith that whatever is to come, for each of us, we're all in the best of hands, with a wonderful team watching over, and that no matter occurs, it will be the right next step I feel that every hair on our heads are counted.

Also, I do not incrue any karma by believing any positive thing, or by using words that Yeshua himself used.
For those who believe in karma the way some do, for even that word means different things to different people, it is a matter of intent to harm another, or negative behavior. I believe in mercy, compassion and forgiveness of self and others.
edit on 27-10-2010 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)


We can only say to you, your in for a shocking time but it is your own choice and own ignorance and crystalization within your Ego Mammon that lead to it. Now you have had enough attention we gave you plenty of opportunitys we have others to offer same opportunitys too.

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Adonai Christ bless



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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My memory is different. We were there, a lyrean/ple'o'sha'n race, a part of what was occurring on earth. All i can say is the feeling of many generals, with different viewpoints, and my people were teleapathic, and the memory I had was more than just a few scenes on the planet, for that was mainly a classroom with kids, where we knew each other inside and out. I saw the overview of soul knowledge, we all knew we had traveled long together, had great love for each other, total equality, and compassion, and had played many family roles with each other.

There was a war, the reptilian faction/or draco faction, as I see it won. And there were many races.

The movie star wars, lukes home planet was like Mars. Dune was like Mars too. Saskwatch/Chewy.

When we are compromising and behaving poorly, harming others, we draw certain channels in. I guess.

This was a very long window of time I looked into by the way. I felt that Lemuria was concurrent with Mars.

Only given a slice and the biggest part is the Love we had for each other, and the sorrow that flowed through everything at the tragedies on both Mars and Earth which was simultaneous, and the losses of life.
That was the biggest meaning I got from it. I want everyone to be happy, not full of shame or sorrow.

It wasn't that we came willingly, to earth. Like a migration. Mars was a different channel, a free-er one. Earth is a prison/reform school.
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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My memory is different. We were there, a lyrean/ple'o'sha'n race, a part of what was occurring on earth. All i can say is the feeling of many generals, with different viewpoints, and my people were teleapathic, and the memory I had was more than just a few scenes on the planet, for that was mainly a classroom with kids, where we knew each other inside and out. I saw the overview of soul knowledge, we all knew we had traveled long together, had great love for each other, total equality, and compassion, and had played many family roles with each other.

There was a war, the reptilian faction/or draco faction, as I see it won. And there were many races.

The movie star wars, lukes home planet was like Mars. Dune was like Mars too. Saskwatch/Chewy.

When we are compromising and behaving poorly, harming others, we draw certain channels in. I guess.

This was a very long window of time I looked into by the way. I felt that Lemuria was concurrent with Mars.

Only given a slice and the biggest part is the Love we had for each other, and the sorrow that flowed through everything at the tragedies on both Mars and Earth which was simultaneous, and the losses of life.
That was the biggest meaning I got from it. I want everyone to be happy, not full of shame or sorrow.


Sad thing is in amenti your a enermy of Truth, your karma result is not good and you even deny the law itself, we tryed to help you alter what is writen but your Ego is to crystalised and not enough lifetime remain to alter it hence only way you will learn is through your own consequence.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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Adonai Christ Bless:

I really don't understand how and why you are able to say that to another. Man should not judge another man; is this not God's domain? If a man judge, surely that man must not be man, but belong to the domain of God?

If surely a man judging belongs to the domain of God, then God's Divine Scripture has performed its work and is finished?

I ask you this, "are you man or God?" If you are indeed from the domain of God, surely the second coming is sorely missed by all mankind and is here already?

Consider:

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Based on this scripture, is it not folly to judge another man being that the "judging" belongs in God's Will and Domain?



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