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Hidden Hand Message - Law Of One - Discussion!

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posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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First of all, I dont share your religous beliefs. Do you really think that believing in one thing is the only way to salvation? Not behavior or intent, but that we all obey one thought, even if its not something we agree with?

Or by not agreeing this makes us a tare?


Their is nothing wrong with sharing and discussing. It is when one incorrectly teaches many which in turn leads them down the wrong path is where the problem lies. There is no doubt about it no matter what anyone says, and go ahead and tell me it is just my opinion: there is only One Truth.


There are no teachers here, just people sharing their viewpoints. However, it would not be up to you to suggest to a teacher what to teach, or dictate their beliefs to them.

And you're idea of archons? This is not true. Its very convenient telling anyone who doesnt agree with you that they're tares, ego based, or being controlled by negatives.

I really can't understand what you're into, its far too controlling and so far, the only negative posts, have been from a small group, which includes you, judging others as if its within your capacity.

Much Love!




posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Universal Light
The problem is, the cycle is closing. The Harvest quickly approaches and their is no time to be dainty and considerate of feelings. The time to move is now, the last flight is departing and you really don't want to be here when the airport is completely destroyed.

Good luck brother.


Um, one question please.

ATS is a small community out of the 6 billion people on earth.

Out of this small community, an even smaller portion are even reading this thread. Out of that small portion that is reading this thread, only 3 or 4 are participating regularly.

So, why are we so special that you MUST save us?

Shouldn't you be on CNN getting a larger harvest?

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Universal Light
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless
 


I'm not sure what else there is to say at this point.

You can put a feed bag on a horse's mouth but you can't force it to eat.


Let me strongly clarify - - that I have not ignored or disallowed the information in anyone's message.

And I am not a horse.

EDIT: no I am not taking this personal. Just making a point.
edit on 23-10-2010 by Annee because: (no reason given)


I support and second both this post and the one above. That is the best way of saying it. I also believe in Me and what I recognize and allow in must be what I recognize in soul/heart and frequency.

And being called a horse doesnt' sit well with me either.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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You obviously didn't even read what it said. You have no desire to learn anything, rather you are solely interested in pushing your crystallized beliefs.

That passage on higher self is an offering to contemplate another possibility. Of course you would believe in a higher self since you do not believe in Oneness. The idea of a higher self creates separation and duality from the truth.

Cosmic Law is the truth, sorry to tell you sister. It's not word for word what each site says is to be taken as absolutes. I have made no convictions of others, I have only told them the truth. I have never said I control others. Your attempts to spin a web of words against me that I could get caught in are rather feeble. I told you before, transparency is here.

Tell me this. How can you denounce cosmic law and then go against your very own words saying that everyone has Free Will? What a juxtaposition you put yourself in. Free Will is cosmic law. That's one of the first things I've heard you say that is correct. Everyone does actually have Free Will, kudos for saying something accurate. Maybe you can build on that.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 09:54 PM
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I have no desire to take in any religious or spiritual knowledge to be found on earth, in books, or in cults or groups. You are right. I do pick up the odd thing that shows up in various media, and recognize truths that shine out in the writings of others who may believe in a variety of different spiritual schools of thought.

But my job is to remain secluded, unaffected by, so my connection to my inspiration is clear. I don't have any credo, save for my belief in Love, and the message of Love of Yeshua is a part of my belief in Love, to be of service to others, and am drawn to those who have the right steps for me as well, by my Higher Self and intuition. And direct inspiration/instruction by my Higher Self. By my innner knowing. I am not to adopt anything in this world. I know that.

There are other rules that came with this life, that some of my friends found unreasonable and tried to talk me out of.

I will not be balanced. I cannot fight or return harm. I am not to go into numerology, don't ask me why, but this is a huge NO. I am not to mirror any shield ever. Only to return attacks with love. There are rules inside my soul too, but these are the big ones that I've had to deal with so far, including the shield in a psi attack where Higher Self demonstrated protection via love in a lesson to me.

If asked how I know, I know it, its very strongly in my conscious awareness that I came in with rules.

More just came: I am allowed no esoteric knowledge, no guided meditations, only pure form, no adoption of world philosophies save the truth in my own heart. No channeling, no magic, save for thoughts and intentions and positive visions, for those are our tools, no pain tactics at all. I believe that includes telekinisis, except healing

I am nudged within to speak up and to share. My own light sword does not cut, and its purpose is awareness and to wake others up. This seems to be integral to my soul, and my purpose therefore. That light sword was a big surprise for I had no idea until those dreams I had it. And to this day, don't know what a light sword is about, except I used it just fine. So a metaphor for something? Must be.

I trust my inner self and have faith in my inner guidance.

Its all about Love.

I've found out quite by chance that I came in with rules by having to speak up when someone suggested something and I said, not allowed. And it really isn't.

About the religion. We are not supposed to start any religions here. This planet has already suffered enough control and distortions. We are not to impact humanity in this way, nor ever herd them, control them, or enslave their minds in any way.

Pure psi, spirituality, Quantum Physics, and Higher Self is the best freedom that anyone has to break out of this matrix and free their minds.

The prime directive is to free this planet.

Waking up more to what it takes to grow up and become adults.

ET_MAN's posts are the best ones I've read yet, online.

All I am to do is to keep clear, avoid traps, and help in whatever way I can, and let the next step inspire me.
edit on 23-10-2010 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Universal Light
 


I have no desire to take in any religious or spiritual knowledge to be found on earth, in books, or in cults or groups. You are right. I do pick up the odd thing that shows up in various media, and recognize truths that shine out in the writings of others who may believe in a variety of different spiritual schools of thought.

But my job is to remain secluded, unaffected by, so my connection to my inspiration is clear. I don't have any credo, save for my belief in Love, and the message of Love of Yeshua is a part of my belief in Love, to be of service to others, and am drawn to those who have the right steps for me as well, by my Higher Self and intuition. And direct inspiration/instruction by my Higher Self. By my innner knowing. I am not to adopt anything in this world. I know that.

There are other rules that came with this life, that some of my friends found unreasonable and tried to talk me out of.

I will not be balanced. I cannot fight or return harm. I am not to go into numerology, don't ask me why, but this is a huge NO. I am not to mirror any shield ever. Only to return attacks with love. There are rules inside my soul too, but these are the big ones that I've had to deal with so far, including the shield in a psi attack where Higher Self demonstrated protection via love in a lesson to me.

If asked how I know, I know it, its very strongly in my conscious awareness that I came in with rules.

More just came: I am allowed no esoteric knowledge, no guided meditations, only pure form, no adoption of world philosophies save the truth in my own heart. No channeling, no magic, save for thoughts and intentions and positive visions, for those are our tools, no pain tactics at all. I believe that includes telekinisis, except healing

I am nudged within to speak up and to share. My own light sword does not cut, and its purpose is awareness and to wake others up. This seems to be integral to my soul, and my purpose therefore. That light sword was a big surprise for I had no idea until those dreams I had it. And to this day, don't know what a light sword is about, except I used it just fine. So a metaphor for something? Must be.

I trust my inner self and have faith in my inner guidance.

Its all about Love.
edit on 23-10-2010 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)


Unity in amenti you are wroten in the book as a servant of the Devil because of your continued opposition to the divine plan of God, hence you actually may make harvest but not with God but with the Devil, Lucifer has his arms open for you he is loving what your doing it makes his task easier in this game of life.

Like Mike said until you are actually in the position of wisdom and intelligence to understand the concepts you throw about do not speak of them as a fact, you have only been creating further karma for yourself in seeds that you have sown. Like he told you higherself that you are speaking too is not the true unified consciousness which is what I refered to as you must work to obtain your place in heaven, what you speak to is the unified selfishness of your hyperdimensional being, hence the blackhole you are becoming and why you cant learn because you consume.

We only offered you this opportunity all of you because we thought you seeked the truth but it seems that is not the case you seek only confirmation of your delusions, this includes you ETMAN, you also are programmed and we gave you opportunity to actually change your polarity but you too keep with this MY concept, MY is EGO which is mammon which is seperation Truth is One is shared hence true unity is recognition of this fact, we serve others where you all serve yourself hence our resonance doesnt fit in with you.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:14 PM
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Yet again, I forgive your judgments and they have no affect on me or anyone. I don't give my power away to this.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM
Um, one question please.

ATS is a small community out of the 6 billion people on earth.

Out of this small community, an even smaller portion are even reading this thread. Out of that small portion that is reading this thread, only 3 or 4 are participating regularly.

So, why are we so special that you MUST save us?

Shouldn't you be on CNN getting a larger harvest?

With Love,

Your Brother


ACB, UL, is there no reply to my questions above?



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by Universal Light

Cosmic Law is the truth, sorry to tell you sister. It's not word for word what each site says is to be taken as absolutes. I have made no convictions of others, I have only told them the truth. I have never said I control others. Your attempts to spin a web of words against me that I could get caught in are rather feeble. I told you before, transparency is here.



Who's truth?

I have a serious problem when anyone who declares 'their belief' is absolute truth.

I have my own experiences and pull my truth from that - - but I would never tell someone else they have to believe what I believe.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by IAMIAM
Um, one question please.

ATS is a small community out of the 6 billion people on earth.

Out of this small community, an even smaller portion are even reading this thread. Out of that small portion that is reading this thread, only 3 or 4 are participating regularly.

So, why are we so special that you MUST save us?

Shouldn't you be on CNN getting a larger harvest?

With Love,

Your Brother


ACB, UL, is there no reply to my questions above?



Good Luck with that!



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:35 PM
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After much meditation I was given something that must be told and yet I do not fully know what the message is fully. However, I will try to speak from my HS and the message that was given through the session, please bare in mind this is food for though and do not take the message too close to heart.

"For you are our children and we are ours.

For you are us within the whole and we are you.

For what you seek is given to all by all within all.

Seek not what is around you but seek within what is around.

The future is you and what it is you choose.

For we do not see you but we see ourselves.

Each morning you wake up to face a battle or a challenge of one self, for it is your choice how you face that test
but also message.

For the path is free but the destination is fixed and it is up to you how you get to the destination.

Have not tears of sorrow but the tears of joy for within all is a lesson to be taught or learned"

Do not take this message seriously but as a food for thought and with a grain of salt.


Kind Regards

M



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by IAMIAM
Um, one question please.

ATS is a small community out of the 6 billion people on earth.

Out of this small community, an even smaller portion are even reading this thread. Out of that small portion that is reading this thread, only 3 or 4 are participating regularly.

So, why are we so special that you MUST save us?

I am without fall directly from Adonai and have taken up sin so that I may know your peril and I am transmuting this world.


Shouldn't you be on CNN getting a larger harvest?


Such as that is owned by the Devil it would only be twisted at this time and discredited and misused. I will go
more public later once I am ascended.


Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by The Magicians Apprentice
After much meditation I was given something that must be told and yet I do not fully know what the message is fully. However, I will try to speak from my HS and the message that was given through the session, please bare in mind this is food for though and do not take the message too close to heart.

"For you are our children and we are ours.

For you are us within the whole and we are you.

For what you seek is given to all by all within all.

Seek not what is around you but seek within what is around.

The future is you and what it is you choose.

For we do not see you but we see ourselves.

Each morning you wake up to face a battle or a challenge of one self, for it is your choice how you face that test
but also message.

For the path is free but the destination is fixed and it is up to you how you get to the destination.

Have not tears of sorrow but the tears of joy for within all is a lesson to be taught or learned"

Do not take this message seriously but as a food for thought and with a grain of salt.


Kind Regards

M


That isnt enlightement at all. For one thing you blind seekers from becoming light for another we are brothers of sorrow here to carry the burden of the cross, when you seek joy for yourself in a world of duality you empower that duality therefore inturn darkness. I have a saying "A Good Soul can not be happy in a World of Sadness" for if just one brother is sad so to are we.

Evil is happy in a world of Sadness thou.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless
I am without fall directly from Adonai and have taken up sin so that I may know your peril and I am transmuting this world.

Such as that is owned by the Devil it would only be twisted at this time and discredited and misused. I will go
more public later once I am ascended.


Fair enough answer my friend.

I see you are only posting in two threads. You aren't really harming any one, and only a threat to those who would let you be a threat.

So, I am gonna back out of this thread. I didn't want to be involved in it anyway. The whole hidden hand thing is just another control mechanism in my opinion, and hardly any kind of light (Knowledge) or love.
So I bid you adieu my friend. It has been interesting getting to know, well actually I never got to know you, just the part you play in your role here. So, it has been nice getting to know your character.

If you ever care to stop by one of my threads, your always welcome my friend.

To Unity and Annee,

It's been fun ladies. See ya'll round the forum.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:14 PM
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Later Love.

I will try to make time to visit one of your threads.



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:42 PM
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It's deception. I found something interesting about this subject. The entire read isn't 100% accurate though the depiction of archons is pretty right on.

www.rumormillnews.com...



posted on Oct, 23 2010 @ 11:45 PM
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That comment was not directed at you so thank you for not taking it personally.

The horse comment was obviously analogous, I wouldn't flat out and call people horses.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 12:04 AM
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Where have I said what religion I am? I haven't, because I don't associate with any of them. I also never said you have to obey anything. Twisting my words again.

You have Free Will to do as you choose. I know how this was all setup. There are rules, it was the choice of this Logos in its intelligent design. I'm telling you the constructs. There is more than one way to merge with the Creator, but to follow the positive path, one must align with the One Truth. To be harvested fourth density positive, there a lot of things you can be oblivious to yet still go. It is not a lesson of the third density to be all-knowing, the human container doesn't even support it.

There are teachers here, they came to the planet to assist humanity and achieve Harvest. There will also be teachers in the fourth density. There will be first time fourth density souls on Gaia and they will be taught how things really are....far far from the illusion of this matrix. Why is it so hard to believe that there are beings that know more than you? I can certainly admit that there are beings in higher densities that know more than I do. When I get that opportunity to communicate with one, I close my mouth and open my ears. In terms of this planet, I do know more than most. I'm millions of years older and thus have a knowledge base to teach from.

My idea of archons? That applies to you and ET_MAN. I haven't told anybody else that in this thread. Again you are twisting my words. It is fine to disagree and discuss. In the end, there is One Truth and to merge once again, one has to be aligned. It's the functions of this portion of Creation. It's just the way it is, I'm sorry there are such things as absolutes as it clearly bothers you.

If you read my track record at ATS for the past two an a half years, you will see the only two threads I appear in this way is this and in your Black Ops thread. The reason is because you have picked up blind followers and are leading them to the cliff. I'm here to fight for them, to give them a chance.

By signing off giving love, when it has been described what it is and what happens when you do that, totally proves my point.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 12:09 AM
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First off, there are more than four people viewing this thread. There are many more. Just because they don't post doesn't mean they don't lurk.

Secondly, there are not a lot of outlets that are uncontrolled by the negatives. The internet is one of the last free places on this dark planet.

Thirdly, CNN is owned by STS entities.

Fourth, there are about a dozen or so people in my life that I teach face to face. Anyone else that I cross paths with who shows potential, I do the same for them. You are not the only ones.

Lastly, as I said before, I am here on a mission and I will touch as many souls possible to at least give them a chance. What they do with it from there is entirely their option.

Difference with all of those people than what happens on this thread, they do not go around life, teaching things they do not know and feeding poisonous fruit to the unknowing.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 12:11 AM
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Wow. So your basically saying that you have closed yourself off to a world of opportunity?

One should take in the whole world and the discern it. Discard what doesn't resonate, keep what does.

How come you never answered the fact that you believe in Free Will yet deny Cosmic Law? How is that even possible?



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