Net neutrality is about to end, you will be restricted online

reply to post by Misoir


Good to bring that in, Misoir, but according to your thread title, it's a done thing and there's nothing to do against it. WIth such a close-ended title you unintentionally propagate the idea that the elite has already won the war against the Internet and that we are doomed...

Please balance your rhetoric next time. Net neutrality will NOT go, not unless the people who can fight fight for it sit down on their asses and do nothing about it.



[edit on 7/8/10 by Echtelion]

Well, I'm not advocating breaking any laws or anything.

But it does occur to me that some fiber-optic cables could be rather easily sabotaged.

reply to post by Misoir


I can't help but think that even if this happened, someone somewhere would find a "work around". Some independent provider will see this injustice and open up a net neutral service. There are billons of people on the internet, we cannot be stopped by the likes of Google or Verizon.

Bye-bye internet, it has been great, now I will use you as they wish; to apply for jobs, manage my bank account, and pay my bills. It was fun while it lasted. This really sucks, but there's NOTHING to be done.

Just let all the dudes know that the abolishment of net neutrality threatens their access to free porn.

Imagine having to pay for all that porn...

That really sucks.

You'll have a riot in a week. They'll have to declare martial law.

reply to post by Misoir

Another tactic the corporate media government conglomerate are attempting is to make your 'awnline reputation' like some credit score measure. This long haired cool type hipster showed up on FOX a few weeks ago saying that it's very important that no one gets a hold of your information and damages your 'awnline' reputation. He was selling the idea or concept that the corporate government has got to get involved etc..., because it used to be the wild west, but now no one has an income so he's warning us that this 'reputation' is oh so important, for jobs, everything, you name it. You have no idea what this little snake was implying, nor the absolute battalion of special interest that are underneath this pretty face posturing as our friend. Oh I can see right through measures like this. Sadly, I did not add his name to my watch list. Long black hair, Caucasian, possibly hirsute. Says 'awnline'. Find this guy. Last seen between 1-3 months ago on FOX. Public enemy number 1. The plan is, of course, absolute terrorizing of the internet.

It means value judgments ascribed to your thoughts. Guess what that means?

This guy is selling an nwo ap to the free internet. While searching for him, several companies and names came up. Tripp Donnelley is another name to take down. These guys are threatening that your friends, google searches, credit, statements etc... will be subject to value judgment. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.


He really has the new media standard of vowel pronunciation down pat. It's not 'hockey' anymore. It's 'hawkey'. I think the media did a study on pronunciation in the country targeted for takeover (US) and decided that everyone on TV must say 'awn' when pronouncing 'on'. This is quite evident to my ears, and it rose up like a sudden storm. I know a takeover attempt when I see one. This new standard of pronouncing the O vowel came up almost overnight. They are trying to be popular with the perceived speech demographic of the country.

I found the guy:

www.reputationdefenderblog.com... s/


[edit on 7-8-2010 by davidmann]

Originally posted by pikypiky
Who cares? I will NOT miss logging online if the internet will be restricted. The internet ruined my life and the computer doesn't express emotion. Don't worry about losing your freedom. At least you will be gaining freedom from the addiction of being in front of the computer for the better part of your lives and for once enjoy the outdoors. What's that? Why that's call sunshine? Try it. It burns.

agreed, but I'd probably just end up printing out the thousands of internet-aquired books on conspiracy, etc I have & sit inside reading those instead...

-B.M

this is that al franken guy from one of the net-neutrality petition sites,



and this is david letterman,



Dave is really Al franken with a haircut & prosthetic nose?

-B.M

Big up to Electro, I will fight like no other for my net.

To those of you who took tHe I could live without it stance-

This to me just seems like one way of restricting information which could spill over into other areas. I dont know what that means actually. How about this. I get 90% of my knowledge from the net- just dont take it away from me!

ACTA boys and girls have you heard of it? If not prepare to be angered. Right now as we speak negotiations are between USA, UK, Canada, Australia, EU, Mexico and Japan for a treaty that is in the guise of a copyright and anti-piracy document. Why is this so hush hush? This document allows the governing powers to decide what is wholesome content. Removes all copyrighted material and places them in their proper places. If you have any copyrighted material like a jpeg, mp3, video, book etc. You will get 3 warnings and then go to prison and lose the internet for some time. A dollar for sending an email. Making basically the plot of 1984 come to our very lives. To make things more interesting the authorities can search your computers. This in turn censors the internet and removes "disgusting material" such as free porn and forums that the government does not want you to use. This also extends into medicine and such but we won't go into that right now. If you want to save internet why don't you stop Obama? Afterall he has to sign this paper in order to make this a reality.

for most of my childhood i had 5 channels on the tv.

it was a black and white zenith tv.

cable came along with a whole bunch of promises and they were delivering.

HBO, movie channnels, MTV, and the list grew....

TV at a 24/7 feed.

now how many info-mercials are there on how many channels during how many hours of the day?

I pay more money now for TV that provides me mostly channels with mostly commercials on them. even the MSM could be considered
info-mercials pandering an agenda.

we have paid enough, already.

we have earned the right to have freedom and liberties in order to have dialogue on the internet with eachother without having to pay yet another middleman for the right to commjunicate with eachother.

home phone: $42 a month.
cell phone with apps: $116 a month.
electric bill: $130 a month.
cable bill with internet connection: $110 a month

MY ATS: priceless!

the almighty $ does not belong inbetween us communicating with eachother.

how about they spend that money on ensuring identity theft does not happen instead of ensuring they control the information flow and all mediums of communication?

Worldwide IT & Information Technologies

don't lure us in and create a society dependent upon yet another means of mandatorily needed forms of communication, and then overhaul the rules of the game after our dependence upon it is essential for life in a technological society.

the WORLDWIDE internet should not be regulated by USA's FCC!!!!!!!!!!

come to think about it, what do we need more law makers for anymore anyhow?

don't we already have more laws than anyone can learn? that is enough.
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Some research material I think may be pertinent to the discussion here about net neutrality:

The 24th Air Force was certified for operation yesterday by the head of the Air Force Base Command, according to a report in the San Antonio Business Journal. The unit stationed at Lackland Air Force Base will begin cyber security operations immediately.
The mission of the 24th Air Force is to defend and operate the Air Force’s information technology network. The unit was activated back in August 2009.
Source/more: www.thenewnewinternet.com...

The 24th Air Force staff will provide combat-ready forces trained and equipped to conduct sustained cyber operations, fully integrated within air and space operations.
Source/more: www.af.mil...

On August 14, 2008, the Air Force made a statement about a pause in standing up the AFCYBER command, which was set for October 1, 2008.
The Air Force remains committed to providing full-spectrum cyber capabilities to include global command and control, electronic warfare and network defense. The Secretary and Chief of Staff of the Air Force have considered delaying currently planned actions on Air Force Cyber Command to allow ample time for a comprehensive assessment of all AFCYBER requirements and to synchronize the AFCYBER mission with other key Air Force initiatives. The new Air Force leaders continue to make a fresh assessment of all our efforts to provide our Nation and the joint force the full spectrum of air, space, and cyberspace capabilities.[3][4]
On October 8, 2008, the Air Force followed up on its previous findings and decided to place AFCYBER as a Numbered Air Force within Air Force Space Command. On Wednesday, August 19, 2009, the 24th Air Force was stood up, following an environmental impact analysis as required by law.[5]
“ Leadership also decided to establish a Numbered Air Force for cyber operations within Air Force Space Command and discussed how the Air Force will continue to develop capabilities in this new domain and train personnel to execute this new mission.[


Source/more: en.wikipedia.org...(Provisional)

[edit on 18-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

Anything affect USA regarding internet, might affect my country too later. I don't like the idea. US citizens, vote for non confidence. Fire Obama and every politician that support the idea, rally or do whatever it takes to stop it.

US First Amendment, the freedom of speech, should not be infringed even on net.

Originally posted by psilo simon
Well, if it this happened, I would most likely go offline for good. I know that may be easy to say right now, but I had to get rid off my TV because of how boxed in to consumerism it was, how it touted what trends to follow and what opinions we should have etc...

I remember a time I didn`t have the net, and I`m sure I`d manage.

That's what I always say: "I have had a great 26 years without the internet, so no, I'm not addicted."

Sure, I really like having the online connectivity, the world of information and communication, but indeed, if it would get infested with boxed consumerism, I'll gladly leave it alone.

By the way, if Google would become one of the anti-net neutrality crowd, what good is their search engine after that would happen? I mean, I don't think it's that hard to create a search engine that skips the first few pages from every search result, because those are the sponsored anti net neutral content/sites.

[edit on 23-8-2010 by Slagroom]

Originally posted by TommyG
The United States gave us internet as a more interactive means of communications with the idea of everything being free and open for the main reason of collecting information. Don't think for a minute that what you say online is anonymous or untraceable.

They gave us this tool so they could keep an eye on whats happening because they couldn't tap and control paper based mail.

It happened on telephone systems, why wouldn't it happen over the internet? Every single telephone system in North America is tappable without your knowing.

The Patriot Act provides even more enhanced ability to know everything happening online.

We are only anonymous to each other, not the Big Brother.

I totally agree with you on this!! I can't remember exactly when it was but I do remember when it was america online reigning over the internet, i think that LAN was only available to large corpaoration when a couple of college kids got arrested for including assasination and the presidents name in the same sentence in an e-mail. Also all those incidents, where kids got arrested for all the pirated songs.
I am sure that as soon as you registered on ATS for an acount a computer somewhere in langley or maryland traced your IP, background checked your credit and identity and tacked you in some obscure file for later viewing. Our government is very corrupt but at the same time very intelligent, do no think that they will allow some stupid corporation to rain on their parade.

To be honest, I am kinda shocked that Google would push for this type of invasion. They are all for free and development. They thrive on their web bots following you so they can throw ads at your face, they provide all their apps for free. Andriod phones are the best and most of the apps are free in their market and good ones. Not the crappy apps that apple provides for free.
I'm a little ify on that part of this.
If it is true about google, well any one wanna buy a nexus one from me??

Honestly, I can expect this from Verizon as they charge for the sneeze you made while talking to your mommy. By the way Verizon is not real 3G. They are just simply the best CDMA network available. ok off topic there.

To recap, I don't think that this will fly in congress, besides to many congressmen today that have a lot to hide and the internet if their freedom too!!!
Verizon can go to HELL!!!

I would miss the internet a bit, but I would manage without it,
Good luck to you all on making the change or fighting what big corp has to say about your choices.

This is not only a bump but recent news and we might be doomed!

Final nail in coffin for Net neutrality? By David Goldman, staff writerNovember 3, 2010: 2:50 PM ET NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Before Tuesday's midterm elections, there were 95 House and Senate candidates who pledged support for Net neutrality, a bill that would force Internet providers to not charge users more for certain kinds of Web content. All of them lost -- and that could mean the contentious proposal may now be all but dead.

from: money.cnn.com... ndex.htm

So, is this finally the end? What can we do? So, far I found Save The Internet