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Originally posted by ldyserenity
Originally posted by lasertaglover
Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by lasertaglover
To all those who say to obey their customs, no tyvm, their sh*t is corrupt and sexist as HELL, if I would even go to that sh*******, there's no GD way I'd respect their laws, do you all not remember 9/11 did they respect our laws or our children's lives? NO!!!!! WHAT????
Do you hate every Japanese person that you meet because of Pearl Harbor? Do you hate every German for WW II? How can you hate every Muslim for 9/11?
Sir, with all due respect, as an Airborne, combat veteran of the US Army sir, I darn well remember 9/11! I gave blood for this country.
I fought so that this nation of immigrants can be free. So that my Irish neighbor can come over and barbecue with me and my Arabic, Chinese, Black, and Hispanic neighbors and enjoy our community together.
You do not have to respect their laws. But when I was deployed to Saudi, we, the US Army, followed their rules, cause that is how it is done when you are someplace that is not your home. You respect your neighbor's rules.
This post is about a city that has a strict moral code, that is hypocritical about some of it's own rules. And it all started with a news report about a bikini!
If you want to debate the points, please do so. But I do believe that your post indicated prejudice towards everyone over there, and if that is the case...well, please carry yourself out of this thread.
I love my country sir, fought for her. I have not ever tolerated so-called Americans that hate an entire group of people out of pure ignorance. Yes, a group of Muslims attacked us, but we MUST respect the rest of them and their beliefs.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Deny Ignorance
First of all it's not SIR it's ma'am or miss or whatever feminine one you want to use hence LDY short for lady, And second they are hideous to their women and downgrading and outright ruthless in their treatment of women, they give them no rights, they own their wives, they are stuck in the middle ages!!!!! I am a pagan and it's the center of my religion to honor both male and female divinity, and I will not like or respect anybody who constantly S**** on the rights of the women!!!! IDGAF. and BTW I also served for America, women have been suppressed and oppressed for way too long...I am not a feminist either, I am an equalist, that's why I defended this country and that's why I despise their point of views, and their ridiculously outdated views on women, if the woman who complained had a brain, she would see she should be thanking this brit instead of putting her down, and causing her problems however, it is said the most dangerous shackles are the ones that one cannot see, personally I think that's the case here, and she is sadly, not very intelligent, because she doesn't see the shackles that horrendous Islamic country has her in, that makes her very very sad and pathetic in my eyes!!!!!
And btw that thing you quoted from the constitution now goes "That all MEN AND WOMEN are created equally, and I will never ever respect any culture that treats their women like slaves/property/and the fall guys of their husbands' inadequecies...as in the women stoned for adultery, hmmmm maybe she wouldn't have to have had an affair if that inadequate husband of hers could satisfy her...." life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" yeah I went there!
Originally posted by Annee
Guess the government better shut down those bars in the hotels then.
Can't have it both ways.
Originally posted by lasertaglover
Originally posted by ldyserenity
Originally posted by lasertaglover
Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by lasertaglover
Well, Lady...there are a lot of countries in this world that treat their women horribly. Do you hate every African because some of the tribes on that continent that physically scar their women, on top of enslaving them?
Yes I would hate those groups that do that to their women...just the same or even if in some crazy tribe they did this to men white/black/orange/ purple, I would hate that specific group.
not their race, because there are those in that place that are christian jewish, etc.... it's not about the race it's about those who want to rule through tyranny by oppressing any group.
[edit on 6-8-2010 by ldyserenity]
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
Originally posted by Annee
Guess the government better shut down those bars in the hotels then.
Can't have it both ways.
They can have it both ways; and they do.
Governmental hypocrisy is not just the preserve of Middle Eastern countries, though.
Originally posted by West Coast
Perhaps, but you took it to the illogical extreme. I personally am fine with nudity up to the chest. We also have nude beach resorts also if you are feeling extra frisky.
Originally posted by West Coast
Our culture is based on freedom of expression. Our culture is one of tolerance. Their culture is one based upon religious ideology. Why should anyone have to subject themselves to anothers morals?
Originally posted by West Coast
In this case, the tolerance approach the west has, is far superior than the primitive theocratic mindset of the mid east. I prefer the secular approach.
Originally posted by West Coast
Now you are just being anal retentive.
Originally posted by Annee
Follow the money.
If they start losing tourist money - - - these personal attacks on tourists will end. Business is business.
I'm only talking about facilities built primarily to entice tourists. Not out on the streets.
Originally posted by BlueOrb
And as regards Malls etc being built to attract tourists - yes, perhaps, but you also have to know that shopping is the national sport in this country, as is wandering around the malls chatting to your friends on your Blackberry and just being "seen" there. And i would guess that the majority of tourists who come here are not from the "West", but rather from other Gulf countries, no doubt they come here also, because Dubai is more relaxed than home.
Originally posted by lasertaglover
reply to post by ldyserenity
The idea of companies that confiscate the passports of the women that they 'employ' is savage.
Originally posted by BlueOrb
I said to them "I'm British. We don't put up with things like that. So you WON'T be holding onto my passport...." "But we have to" they said. "No" said I. So i retain my passport, and always shall. As someone corectly said, you hold the passport, you control the person, and that's what it's all about most of the time, as without a passport you cannot leave the country. In fact, without a passport here, there's a lot you can't do. For example, you need your passport to get a cable TV connection. Or to purchase a prepaid SIM card for your mobile phone. You need 2 passport photos to do all sorts of other things. It is common practice to have a stock of around 20 passport photos here, because you just know you will need them. This country has more photos of me than my MOTHER does. And i really do mean that........
Originally posted by ldyserenity
But she did not strip down until a person approached her and criticized her dress, and it was a public tourist attraction destination/ whatever, therefore the woman who approached her was wrong not the brit in my eyes