Originally posted by loner007
To clarify he still owes the council money. The Baliff has now been given the debt. The Baliff has limited powers in which when they knock at the door
you dont have to answer it. After a certain time as long as they never got into your place of living they will send the bill back to the council who
will then can send the unpaid bill to the courts and ask for a jail sentence to be imposed.
[edit on 5/8/2010 by loner007]
No, he doesn't. The "person" that has similar name (but all capitals, and usually last name first) may owe something, but a living, human being
doesn't, unless he consents to being governed by a system that can force him to owe that money.
People have been using wrong terminology here. Legal system and Law are two completely different concepts. Common Law has nothing to do with the legal
Common Law applies to everyone, Legal system only applies to those who have specifically consented to being governed by it (by performing a joinder
between 'strawman'/'person' and him/herself, for example).
It's not a loophole, it's the very BASIS of humans living together on the same planet. Just because a crooked system was created afterwards, and
then people were duped to consent being governed by it, doesn't mean that Common Law, the foundation, goes away. It's not just a term for some legal
crap - it's The Law that everyone must obey - and the ONLY Law that everyone must obey (besides physical laws and cosmic laws of course).
Legal system is a fraud imposed on clueless people who gladly gave their consent. But you can withdraw your consent, you can stop performing joinders,
and you can free yourself of the legal system.
No court, police or other humans or their systems have ANY authority over you, unless you have broken the Law. Common Law. Law of the Land. They will
try to make you form contracts with them by all kinds of verbal and written tricks, and it's very easy to fall into one of their clever traps. But no
one can order a sovereign / freeman around, if he/she hasn't broken the Law.
If you don't perform joinders, and know what you are doing, you have absolutely no obligation to obey them or pay them any taxes, fines, or any of
that legal stuff. Even if they can prove that the "person" is obliged to obey them, it doesn't mean you are.
As far as it making legal sense - it doesn't have to make legal sense. It only has to make LAWFUL sense. There is a huge difference.
Lawfully, no one can force a freeman to pay anything, unless he/she has consented to paying, made a contract which he/she has to honor, or has broken
the Law. Unlawfully, anything is possible, of course.. someone can come and threaten to break your bones if you don't pay, et cetera. But that is
certainly not lawful activity.