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The Philadelphia Project, U.S.S. Eldridge and Project Rainbow

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posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 08:48 PM
There is a timely and valuable resource that discusses most of the known theories about teleportation. The Philadelphia Experiment might be described by one of these.


Teleportation Physics Study
by Eric Davis
August 2004
Air Force Research Lab
Edwards AFB

A friend of mine gave it to me on cd. It is a .pdf file of over 1meg. It is not
for the beginning physics student. But anyone can read between the lines
and still get excited!

Perhaps a search on Google will turn up a site that has the file?


posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 10:39 AM
Greetings Larry717 and hello to all members of ATS!

There has indeed been private research projects into some aspects of the PX. I downloaded some files (describing experiments) about this that were on the net for a while, and were subsequently removed. Since I am not sure about the copyright status of these items, I'm not going to post them on the public forums, but I can summarize as follows.

The experiments involve utilizing a laser beam aimed through the aperture of two toroidal solenoids. The target dot of the laser falls just outside the perimeter of a light detector element such as a photodiode. When the coils are energized, it is claimed that the detector element registers a hit from the laser beam, IOW the apparatus can bend light.

If light can be bent by applying electromagnetic fields, then this would confirm a significant element of the PX legend.

Is there a personal message (PM) function on this forum? If so my member name is jimostr, if anyone is interested in discussing this experiment further or wants more details they can PM me.

Jim O.

posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 01:12 PM
Here is a link to what I believe is the EM theory underlying the experiments mentioned above:

I am presently working on a webpage at my science hobby site, that will present a proposed experiment to test Andersen's theory, above.


posted on Jan, 26 2005 @ 02:55 PM
There was certainly an experiment with the USS Eldridge. The missing pages in the Ship's Log and and the fat wires/cealed doors is the proof. The question is not about if there was an experiment or not, but what kind of experiment it was.

Some say that the fat wires were due to degaussing/demagnetizing the ship. Then why the other 3 sister ships did not have those wires?

I have served in the Greek navy about 7 years ago. I have heard many stories about the Eldridge (it was named as 'Leon' for the Greek Navy). There were reports of increased suicides of sailors, increased incidents of headaches etc. Many were spooked about that ship.

The fact that the US Navy gave Eldridge and 3 other ships to another Navy when these ships were 7 years old, make me really suspicious.

posted on Jan, 27 2005 @ 05:24 PM

Originally posted by jimostr
Greetings Larry717 and hello to all members of ATS!

There has indeed been private research projects into some aspects of the PX. I downloaded some files (describing experiments) about this that were on the net for a while, and were subsequently removed...

J.O. :

I saw the page in question before they took it down. Looks like a double toroid configuration with a smaller one inside and a larger one outside. Appears to be an electromagnetic lens like the gravitational lensing seen in the cosmos.

In one paper, Einstein linked magnetism and gravity. Since astronomical bending of light is usually associated with stars like the Sun, a dynamic electromagnetic field with particular characteristics may generate a gravitational field to do the same thing. In my earlier posts, I showed that resonant magnetism could do exactly that.

Nice to have an experimentalist on board. Good luck on your projects!

posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 12:55 AM
Hello Larry and MasterP,

This is getting interesting!

Here is the address the Telos Labs homepage which had a link to the experiment page ( - now a dead link )

("Telos Labs")

This is a DNS number that does not return a site admin name and address using "whois" on Google. IOW usually you can type in "whois" on google and find any number of whois service sites in order to get the name and address of the site owner. With just a DNS number, this is not possible, apparently.

On the present home page is an invitation to join their research forum, which is located at

There are three posts there, and two of them are mine (jimostr).

I made my third post there this morning under a new topic header "Torsion Field Generator". Within 1/2 an hour that post was removed, and the topic deleted, with no comment from the admins.

There is a "contact us" link at the main page which will enable OE to send an email to, so I sent them an email to ask them why the post and thread heading were removed. No answer yet about 12 hrs later as of this writing.

Anyway, here is a copy of the post that was deleted. I was trying to demo some of my tech savvy in order to get them to luck!

Jim O.

Torsion Field Generator

Figure 1.

Circuit Description & Theory

A variable AC voltage is applied to D1 from the AC variac and the output Full Wave DC is filtered by capacitor C1 and applied through the primary of T1 to Power Transistor Q1's collector. Oscillations to the Q1 base are started by the network consisting of R2, C3, the Stator 1 coils, C4 - C5 and feedback winding (FB Coil 1) around Stator 1's core. The system is brought into resonance by adjusting the Variac output and R3 so that the AC voltages across C4 and C5 are stabilized at around 85 percent of the C4, C5 capacitor's maximum voltage ratings.

After resonance is achieved with M1's Stator coils and capacitors C4/C5, and waveforms are observed to be stabilized with an oscilloscope, a Pulse Generator System is switched on and sends low frequency signal pulses to the double pole Relay K1. When the contacts close, Circulating reactive energy from the C4/C5/M1 network is dumped into the windings of Stator 2 (M2). When the K1 relay contacts open, the C4/C5/M1 network is again allowed to ring up to full resonance. This cycle of ring ups and discharges is continued for the full duration of the test.

Description, Comparative Dimensions and Arrangement of Stator Components, and operational characteristics

The M1 stator core is a 5 inch diameter by 3 inch high ferrite composite toroid with 4 saddle coils arranged symmetrically inside the core. The M2 stator core is made of 5 stacked rolled steel flat washers, 1-1/8" ID , 2" OD @ 1/8". with 20 windings, each of # 28 magnet wire in each quarter section for a total of 80 turns.

The smaller M2 Stator core is placed just underneath the M1 core so that the cores are concentric along a common Z-axis so that the motor forces generated not only provide rotation the particle within the field, but propulsion of the particle normal to the Z -axis as well The M1 core is of a high audio frequency design (15-20 Khz) of ferrite composite, similar to an ordinary color Television or computer monitor Deflection Yoke.

Various kinds of relay types could be chosen for K1 for different experimental modes. In the type of relay depicted in the schematic, both sets of contacts close simultaneously. However it may be advantageous and more consistent with the cyclone analogy if while one K1 relay contact opened, the other one closed (and vice versa), thereby enabling a low frequency (the frequency of the pulses fed to the relay by PG1) rotating magnetic field to appear in the M2 core as well.

Needless to say, various kinds of iron samples, constituting temporary rotors, are placed in the bore of M2 to observe any unusual effects that may occur.

posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:28 AM
I just noticed something. This thread is 3 pages long and has had nearly 30,000 views!!????


This has gotta be a computer error or somebody has a refresh button with recycle mode!

I don't believe it.....

Jim O.

posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:39 PM

Originally posted by jimostr

Torsion Field Generator


Great description and schematic!

The following are equivalent:

torsion / gravitational-spin interaction / angular momentum density

The last one is intimately connected with magnetic resonance. Instead of talking about the curvature of spacetime and its enormous energy requirements, torsion gaps betweeen locations are much less energy intensive. This was pointed out in the book by Corum, Corum, and Daum. (See an earlier post for title and date.)

Practical torsion field generators have been constructed by the Russians. They are typically low-power units. Torsion fields can interact with a variety of physical processes, including changing the frequency of a laser beam, affecting also: biological systems, quartz crystals, some electronic components and gravity.


posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 10:42 AM
I'm going to bump this subject to the top one last time. With over 30,000 views of this topic you would think that there would be at least a few EE's or at least electronics technicians who would like to participate in an effort to back engineer the PX based on available documentation and theory.

I have a phase shift network built, various power supplies, Tesla Coils and amplifiers ready to apply to suggestions for experiments, experiment files that were pulled from the internet which demonstrate anomalous effects, but it appears only Larry717 and I are interested in actually working on something. I'm not going to keep posting here if nobody else participates by at least contributing some ideas for experiments. Why are so many people just lurking here and not saying anything?

How does this topic get (by far) the largest number of views and so few posts?

Jim O.

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 08:18 PM
See my earlier post about the equation:
Fc (FMR) = B Q (Wp r) and its physical

Note that rotating coordinate systems
are not inertial coordinate systems.


For (Wp r) > c, H. Reichenbach, The Philosophy of Space &
Time, 1957, p238, writes:

"In the special theory [of relativity] we can maintain the
velocity 3x10^10 cm/s as the limiting value because we allow
only [inertial] coordinate systems. If we admit arbitrary
coordinate systems, c can be exceeded...A light signal sent
from Neptune along a tangent to the planet's orbit...has an
even greater velocity...[The value of c] has therefore no
significance if completely arbitrary space-time measurements
are admitted."

The speed of light can exceed 3x10^10 cm/s in arbitrary
coordinate systems. The speed of light does not appear in
any of Einstein's equations of 1915. Riechenbach states
that GR assumes a limiting value for the speed of light, that
it is "formulated" into the theory.

The "teleportation equation" given earlier is based on an
inertial coordinate system. This approximation is necessary
to keep the math simple.


posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 04:14 AM
What the U.S. navy has stated about the experiment is the only truth to the whole story, A ship can apear to be invisable to the human eye at a distance due to reflection off the water. When degaussing is in use mass ionization or sea mist can mask normally visiable objects thus masking a vessel very well. Radar cannot comprehend ionization, its unreadable on radar it doesnt register and sea going vessel can mask in it (from centimetric radar from WWII).Side effect of such high voltage frying a hull and ionizing sea water is very dangerous to our bodies as the navy meds found out after the experiments accured when crew members of the old dd's lost there nuts and started dropping off, Cover ups where made up to protect the gonvernment of the time and the fact that anyone was a test pig to its technology of thoses days.
Conspiricy's inspired peoples minds into expanding and made future dreamers of us all, the MJ12 project and a few others are an injection of imagination from our piers and inventers that have run out of idea's or technology to take us into the future due to the times they lived in. They feed us their sci-fi beliefs through there book writting efforts to make money too see what the younger generation could fathom and invent from were they left us. (into the future and tech-progression). like a grand father inspiring its grand child through fairy-tales we belived in them so much we have worked to make it all real thus we have the ability to evolve, now imagine what the ships in the navy can do today..............

posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 04:32 AM
Torsion field generator,
basic equipment used by russian scientists in aircraft can be very dangerous to human anatomy and cell devalopment when exposed for prelong use.
Basic TFG unit is compatable with other technologies associated with the tesla coils and emitting high electro magnetic pulse equipment or changing magnetic field properties but its not viable to be use in an unsecure enviroment or within close distance of the human body!!!!!!!!!!

posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 07:59 AM
I'd like to get some scientific opinion on the wormhole aspect of the PX.

Is it possible that von Nuemann and Co. created or opened a wormhole on the docks that day in 1943? Could it be that they spent 40 years figuring out how to control it, so they could send someone back to that when and where and shut it down?

During the time that this 'temporal rift' was open, if it was open, is it possible that there was exchange of matter and/or energies between dimensions?

Is it possible to travel inter-dimensionally? Could the government have been working on inter-dimensional and extra-temporal travel all along?

I would sure appreciate a comment or two from the learned contibutors to this thread. Thanks.

posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 04:33 PM
1) A rotating wormhole was opened around the ship. Recall the huge centripetal force developed by magnetic resonance.
This force equals the gravitational force of 15 Suns. The rotation does not involve the ship, but a mass equivalent of the Suns.
-See my earlier post.

2) You are referring to the Montauk project. Presently I have no comment on this topic.

3) The wormhole contracted the four dimensional distance between ports.

4) The government doesn't say much about what it does.

I again have the opportunity to contribute to this thread. A recent find on
Google has prompted me to examine nonlinear ferromagnetic resonance.
Its efffects in the Philadelphia Experiment may be significant.


posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 07:07 PM

Thanks for the info. I'm deeply curious about the Montauk Project as well. I know you declined to comment on it, but what about the twenty year phase in the supposed rift? Do you connect the power outage in New York on 8/14/03 to it? I think there might be a link.

I know this is out in left field, maybe even up in the bleachers, but my dad was a Naval (Marine) Aviator assigned as a test pilot to Pax River Maryland in the summer of '63, and I was conceived the second week of August that year at the King George's Motel in King's Point Maryland. My life has been full of strange coincidences connected to him and to the military, and I'm wondering if you really want to mess with all this re-enactment stuff? It could get away from you, like it did from them.

I know none of this is scientific, more like paranormal (or just plain paranoid) bs, and I apologize for that. I'll leave this thread alone, if you want.

posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 07:29 PM
their ship war diary contradicts this event:

"After commissioning, Eldridge remained in New York and in the Long Island Sound until 16 September when it sailed to Bermuda. From 18 September, the ship was in the vicinity of Bermuda undergoing training and sea trials until 15 October when Eldridge left in a convoy for New York where the convoy entered on 18 October. Eldridge remained in New York harbor until 1 November when it was part of the escort for Convoy UGS-23 (New York Section). On 2 November the convoy entered Naval Operating Base, Norfolk. On 3 November, Eldridge and Convoy UGS-23 left for Casablanca where it arrived on 22 November. On 29 November, Eldridge left as one of escorts for Convoy GUS-22 and arrived with the convoy on 17 December at New York harbor. Eldridge remained in New York on availability training and in Block Island Sound until 31 December when it steamed to Norfolk with four other ships."

and the ship which supposedly observed it:

"The movement report card shows that Andrew Furuseth left Norfolk with Convoy UGS-15 on 16 August 1943 and arrived at Casablanca on 2 September. The ship left Casablanca on 19 September and arrived off Cape Henry on 4 October. Andrew Furuseth left Norfolk with Convoy UGS-22 on 25 October and arrived at Oran on 12 November. The ship remained in the Mediterranean until it returned with Convoy GUS-25 to Hampton Roads on 17 January 1944. The Archives has a letter from Lieutenant Junior Grade William S. Dodge, USNR, (Ret.), the Master of Andrew Furuseth in 1943, categorically denying that he or his crew observed any unusual event while in Norfolk. Eldridge and Andrew Furuseth were not even in Norfolk at the same time."

for 5$ you can get a copy of all relevant records from the navy to prove these things.

posted on Dec, 23 2005 @ 08:24 PM

for 5$ you can get a copy of all relevant records from the navy to prove these things.

Really? You mean you have to pay them to lie to you?

posted on Dec, 26 2005 @ 08:34 PM
Moore requested copies of the logbooks of both ships. The surprising discovery was that (1) the deck logs of the Eldridge
from comission (August 27,1943) through December 1, 1943, were "missing and therefore unavailable"; and (2) the
logbooks of the Furuseth had been "destroyed by executive order" and thus no longer exist.

According to the Navy department's official history of the Eldridge, the ship was launched July 25, 1943, at Newark, New
Jersey. The ship was sold to the Greeks in 1951. The records they obtained said that the ship was launched June 25,
1943, at Newark. Her official history for the period up to January 4, 1944, is almost certainly false.

posted on Feb, 27 2006 @ 10:03 AM
Yes but it dosent state that the men were alive this is pretty new to me but im sure your right being infused with the hull would kill them but if light was bent around you that could make the atoms of the ship move so fast you could fall rigth through them and when the atoms slow down again you could be traped inside it...freaky..

posted on Feb, 27 2006 @ 11:11 AM
Wow, this is my first time reading about this and I really don't know what to think. If they were succesful imagine how many other experiments have been conducted, imagine by now how efficient they could be. But another thing to look at is the witnesses, how reliable is that source? If more info were to emerge that would be great.

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