reply to post by ISHAMAGI
As to the history Of Lincoln so so true. I tend to think even the emancipation proclamation was a calculated event to cast Lincoln's more tyrannical
moves in a good light.
It was that and much more.
The war started over State's rights not slavery.
Yet the truth is a bit deeper in regards to Lincoln's motivation in regards to freeing the slaves.
The Southern States who were alarmed by the growing powers and dictatorial nature of the Federal Government and it's constant errosion of the
Constitution were agrarian and relied on agriculture for their economy. The agriculture relied on slaves to produce cheap cotton and tobacco and food
stuffs at a profit.
The North was rapidly industrializing and and it's economy was based on manufacturing and banking profits.
It was particuarly the way the bankers of the North were compromising the government that led to Southern displeasure.
By freeing the slaves, Lincoln knew he could crush the South's economic viability for a long time to come.
In other words if the Union could win the struggle, the South without it's slaves would take decades to rebuild it's economy and infrastructure to
rise back to a independent position to rebel.
The Southern United States was actually under military Governance until 1978 when Congress finally voted to formally end the occupation. So for over a
hundred years after the war the Federal Government kept that tight of a leash and eye on the South.
Now it is true Lincoln believed all men are equal, but his own writings and actions on the subject actually espoused the belief that while all men are
equal that their was a fundamental difference between blacks and whites as far as culture, attitudes and perspectives, that Lincoln felt made blacks
and whites incompatible as far as living together.
All this is in fact proven by the fact that Lincoln founded the African Nation of Liberia by purchasing that land and chartering it and incorporating
it into that nation of Liberia.
The slaves initially freed by the war were force repriated to Liberia as a part of this policy, which Frederick Douglas and other Northern
abolitionists and Church Leaders were vehemently opposed to.
Had Lincoln had his way, the blacks once freed would have all been deported to Liberia!
The emancipation proclomation was a concession in part to abolitinists and church leaders but it was also a way to destroy the economy of the South
and end the rebellion for a long time to come.
Liberia still uses the U.S. Dollar today as it's currency.
History glosses over a lot of things, including the original thirteenth amendment barring anyone of title (esquires which are lawyers) from holding
elected office, and it quietly being rewritten to free the slaves officially, and the 14th amendment that made us all citizens of the state, and the
states all corporate vassals of the Federal Government, stripping both the citizens and the States of their sovereign status granted under the
All this was done under Grant through the Congress after the war with a tremendous amount of influence and manipulation by the bankers and the
The best lies are ones that contain a shred of truth, and the truth is that yes Lincoln freed the slaves, but for none of the altruistic reasons
history and his fans claim they were freed for.
By the way should anyone take offense I do not believe that slavery should exist or that there are incompatible differences between blacks and whites,
I am just recounting what really happened.
[edit on 6/8/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]