reply to post by kyle43
There was a person named Bruno. He is a little famous for being the last person burned at the stake by the Church.
Bruno
In one of his books he wrote something like envisioning what Italy would like if he were looking at the Earth from the moon. He says something along
the lines of Italy being a string shaped like a boot. He died in 1600. That's pretty visionary for someone 410 years ago.
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reply posted on 8-8-2010 @ 06:43 PM by Phage
reply to post by stereologist
Maybe I'm missing your point. By the 16th century there were some pretty decent maps available.
1563:
Maybe I'm missing your point. By the 16th century there were some pretty decent maps available.
1563:
reply posted on 8-8-2010 @ 11:37 PM by stereologist
reply to post by Phage
The person was asking about seeing the Earth from space and I was pointing out that the same dream had been stated over 400 years earlier when Bruno wrote about standing on the moon and seeing the Earth.
As you point out Bruno was able to give a good description because of the availability of good maps.
The person was asking about seeing the Earth from space and I was pointing out that the same dream had been stated over 400 years earlier when Bruno wrote about standing on the moon and seeing the Earth.
As you point out Bruno was able to give a good description because of the availability of good maps.
reply posted on 12-8-2010 @ 04:13 AM by vikki_nnd
reply to post by pepsi78
yeah...thats what i was talking about. there are some changes around us. i have talked to my friends about it and everybody thinks that the world feels like a dream now, with everything changing so fast and in a kind of filmy manner.
yeah...thats what i was talking about. there are some changes around us. i have talked to my friends about it and everybody thinks that the world feels like a dream now, with everything changing so fast and in a kind of filmy manner.
reply posted on 13-8-2010 @ 01:30 PM by insideNSA
[snip]
- you act like you don't understand what i'm saying because of a typo?
- you make up counter points to argue against my facts
[snip]
so when you actually come up with real facts, maybe i'll grace you with a debate, until then, go play with your laughable logic and your cheap stereo equipment.
[snip]research and think out what you are going to type before you type it...
Here is an example of a total lie coming from you:
Like this one that the mayan calendar isn't accurate,
lol:
and yes the mayan calendar was VERY ACCURATE Mayan calendar accuracy
The accepted definition of a solar tropical year is approximately 365.2422 days.
The Gregorian Calendar year has an average length of approximately 365.2425 days.
The Mayan Calendar year comparison has an average length of approximately 365.2420 days.
The variation for the Gregorian calendar is .0003. The variation for the Mayan Calendar is .0002. Small numbers until you start working with periods of time greater than 100,000 years or so, which is what the Long Count is doing.
The Gregorian calculation for a year is (400 * 365) + 100 - 3 = 146,097 / 400 = 365.2425
Removed personal attacks.
[edit on 13-8-2010 by insideNSA]
[edit on 13/8/10 by masqua]
- you act like you don't understand what i'm saying because of a typo?
- you make up counter points to argue against my facts
[snip]
so when you actually come up with real facts, maybe i'll grace you with a debate, until then, go play with your laughable logic and your cheap stereo equipment.
[snip]research and think out what you are going to type before you type it...
Here is an example of a total lie coming from you:
Like this one that the mayan calendar isn't accurate,
lol:
snip
That's not true at all. Their calendar was not accurate, nor were their astronomical observations that accurate. The latter was due to the limited instruments they had available to them.
and yes the mayan calendar was VERY ACCURATE Mayan calendar accuracy
The accepted definition of a solar tropical year is approximately 365.2422 days.
The Gregorian Calendar year has an average length of approximately 365.2425 days.
The Mayan Calendar year comparison has an average length of approximately 365.2420 days.
The variation for the Gregorian calendar is .0003. The variation for the Mayan Calendar is .0002. Small numbers until you start working with periods of time greater than 100,000 years or so, which is what the Long Count is doing.
The Gregorian calculation for a year is (400 * 365) + 100 - 3 = 146,097 / 400 = 365.2425
Removed personal attacks.
[edit on 13-8-2010 by insideNSA]
[edit on 13/8/10 by masqua]
reply posted on 13-8-2010 @ 01:31 PM by insideNSA
[snip]... you say the pyramid timeline is rubbish?
uhhhh actually its not rubbish at all
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uhhhh actually its not rubbish at all
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reply posted on 13-8-2010 @ 02:02 PM by kalisdad
Originally posted by insideNSA
The accepted definition of a solar tropical year is approximately 365.2422 days.
The Gregorian Calendar year has an average length of approximately 365.2425 days.
The Mayan Calendar year comparison has an average length of approximately 365.2420 days.
I've seen this problem a few times..
first of all... the haab calendar was 18 months x 20 day with a 5 days period that was considered unlucky.
this calendar was used just as a solar calendar for purposes of harvesting the crops, and taxation.
the mayans used other calendars as well
the tzolkin was the personal calendar that everyone used. this consisted of 13 tones/intention x 20 sun signs, making it a 260 day calendar
they also used the tun calendar which is their long count.
there is also the www.mayanmajix.com...
which is said to show the entire timeline of creation, dating back 16.4 billion years.
it is this last calendar that ends on 10/28/2011
2012 is propaganda
edit - spelling
[edit on 13-8-2010 by kalisdad]
reply posted on 13-8-2010 @ 03:31 PM by stereologist
reply to post by insideNSA
Wow. calling me names. Very childish at best.
Please enlighten yourself and learn that your childish comment about "stereo equipment" shows you know nothing about the science of stereology even though I post a definition in my signature.
Instead of throwing a 3 year's tantrum why don't you try and substantiate this claim of yours.
Wow. calling me names. Very childish at best.
Please enlighten yourself and learn that your childish comment about "stereo equipment" shows you know nothing about the science of stereology even though I post a definition in my signature.
Instead of throwing a 3 year's tantrum why don't you try and substantiate this claim of yours.
reply posted on 13-8-2010 @ 03:34 PM by stereologist
reply to post by insideNSA
How convenient that your link makes no effort whatsoever to show that the calendar has the accuracy claimed. How convenient.
So I think your link is worthless. Also, the calculation on that page for the Gregorian calendar is wrong. You knew that? Looks unlikely.
How convenient that your link makes no effort whatsoever to show that the calendar has the accuracy claimed. How convenient.
So I think your link is worthless. Also, the calculation on that page for the Gregorian calendar is wrong. You knew that? Looks unlikely.
reply posted on 13-8-2010 @ 03:41 PM by kalisdad
reply to post by stereologist
just curious if you had any insight on my calendar points....
there is alot of discussion about the haab calendar, but little said about any of the other calendars that the mayans used
just curious if you had any insight on my calendar points....
there is alot of discussion about the haab calendar, but little said about any of the other calendars that the mayans used
reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 12:17 PM by insideNSA
it is because you use your noggin kalisdad that you bring this up. of course those who say the mayan calendar is inaccurate would bring up the haab,
the most inaccurate of the mayan calendars. the other calendars are as accurate as our calendars so they leave that little tidbit out.
Originally posted by kalisdad
reply to post by stereologist
just curious if you had any insight on my calendar points....
there is alot of discussion about the haab calendar, but little said about any of the other calendars that the mayans used
reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 12:25 PM by insideNSA
Ok stereologist. I pointed out the fallacy of your argument in the earlier post.
Buddy you can't just LIE when you debate. You have to bring up pertinent, cogent counter points. We have already seen you bring up false counter points!
And here you say the link makes no effort whatsover to show that the calendar has the accuracy claimed. Uhhh we know you can't debate, and now you show either you can't read or you have trouble seeing?
did you miss this in the last post?:
The Mayan Calendar year comparison has an average length of approximately 365.2420 days.
The variation for the Gregorian calendar is .0003. The variation for the Mayan Calendar is .0002. Small numbers until you start working with periods of time greater than 100,000 years or so, which is what the Long Count is doing.
Lets not split hairs here buddy. The Mayan calendar is extremely accurate. You might split a hair here or there about something down the the nth decimal. I don't see you providing any links to back your BS also. So after your track record of not telling the truth... u gotta wonder
Also if you have to go through such great lengths you are just proving my point. They created a VERY ACCURATE calendar without any modern tech to do calculations quite impressive indeed.
The Mayan Long Count calendar points to the ending of one age and the beginning of a new age. And there are signs it will be a glorious age.
You might want to stick to playing with your stereo instead of attempting to debate someone with a clearly superior intellect. Just a tip so you don't embarrass yourself anymore.
Buddy you can't just LIE when you debate. You have to bring up pertinent, cogent counter points. We have already seen you bring up false counter points!
And here you say the link makes no effort whatsover to show that the calendar has the accuracy claimed. Uhhh we know you can't debate, and now you show either you can't read or you have trouble seeing?
did you miss this in the last post?:
The Mayan Calendar year comparison has an average length of approximately 365.2420 days.
The variation for the Gregorian calendar is .0003. The variation for the Mayan Calendar is .0002. Small numbers until you start working with periods of time greater than 100,000 years or so, which is what the Long Count is doing.
Lets not split hairs here buddy. The Mayan calendar is extremely accurate. You might split a hair here or there about something down the the nth decimal. I don't see you providing any links to back your BS also. So after your track record of not telling the truth... u gotta wonder
Also if you have to go through such great lengths you are just proving my point. They created a VERY ACCURATE calendar without any modern tech to do calculations quite impressive indeed.
The Mayan Long Count calendar points to the ending of one age and the beginning of a new age. And there are signs it will be a glorious age.
You might want to stick to playing with your stereo instead of attempting to debate someone with a clearly superior intellect. Just a tip so you don't embarrass yourself anymore.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by insideNSA
How convenient that your link makes no effort whatsoever to show that the calendar has the accuracy claimed. How convenient.
So I think your link is worthless. Also, the calculation on that page for the Gregorian calendar is wrong. You knew that? Looks unlikely.
reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 04:06 PM by stereologist
reply to post by insideNSA
The accuracy of the calendar? Really?
Over how many years do you have to average their calendar to show that accuracy? You never showed any of the math to support your claim.
Time to show us or fail.
The accuracy of the calendar? Really?
Over how many years do you have to average their calendar to show that accuracy? You never showed any of the math to support your claim.
Time to show us or fail.
reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 04:10 PM by stereologist
reply to post by insideNSA
Actually that's false. Learn what the words mean before using them. The Mayan calendar has a large variance, but is accurate over long periods of time.
I don't see you providing any substance whatsoever in your claim about the accuracy of the calendar. You simply have stated a number.
So far you've managed to display little in the way of facts, but a lot of childish rhetoric.
The variation for the Gregorian calendar is .0003. The variation for the Mayan Calendar is .0002. Small numbers until you start working with periods of time greater than 100,000 years or so, which is what the Long Count is doing.
Actually that's false. Learn what the words mean before using them. The Mayan calendar has a large variance, but is accurate over long periods of time.
I don't see you providing any links to back your BS also.
I don't see you providing any substance whatsoever in your claim about the accuracy of the calendar. You simply have stated a number.
You might want to stick to playing with your stereo instead of attempting to debate someone with a clearly superior intellect. Just a tip so you don't embarrass yourself anymore.
So far you've managed to display little in the way of facts, but a lot of childish rhetoric.
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