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Originally posted by undermind
Their analysis continued to show that at each stage, the West was unable to field an effective response to a Soviet attack using biological
weapons.
That's the bottom line. They simply could not sit by and do nothing.
For all they've "done" they remain in the same position, thus demonstrating the futility and foolhardiness of active experimentation of a weapon
they cannot control. Believe me the Russians (and others) have ALL been engaged in this kind of activity on their own citizens, each nation using
their potential enemies' imagined threat as justification.
That's the bottom line. They simply could not sit by and do nothing.
They simply could not sit by and do nothing EXCEPT subject their own citizens, whom they are sworn, and duty bound, to serve and protect, to the
deadly or sickening effect of BCW? Puhlease
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Should anyone doubt that spraying massive BW simulant aerosols in populated areas has the potential for causing adverse health effects, it might be a
good idea to read the following National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine's report: Long-Term Health Effects of Participation in Project
SHAD (Shipboard Hazard and Defense) (2007).
Page 74 lists Bacillus globigii as a human pathogen - an organism capable of causing disease. BG is of the main BW simulants widely used by both the
US and UK governments in their public area BW experiments. It is still regarded by Dstl Porton Down as their favourite BW simulant.
The IOM report states:
Bacillus globigii
Bacillus globigii (BG) has been called B. subtilis var 'n-word', B. licheniformis and, most recently, B. atrophaeus.
It is a Gram-positive, spore-forming, facultative anaerobe commonly found in dust, soil, and water. It is widely used as a biological tracer and has
been shown to produce substances that exhibit antimicrobial activity. In Project SHAD, B.globigii was used to simulate biological warfare agents,
because it was then considered a contaminant with little health consequence to humans.
BG is now considered a pathogen for humans. Most infections are associated with the experience of invasive trauma (e.g., catheters, surgery)
and/or a debilitated health state; thus it is often encountered as a nosocomial pathogen.
BG is also a well-known cause of food poisoning, resulting in diarrhea and vomiting. Infections are rarely known to be fatal, although fatal food
poisoning has been reported. Ocular infections, bacteremia, sepsis/septicemia, ventriculitis, and peritonitis are the reported types of infection, and
they are usually treated with antibiotics. Cases of long-term persistence or recurrence, or of extended latency, have not been found.
Psychogenic effects specifically of BG exposure are not reported. General psychogenic effects of perceived exposure to biological and chemical weapons
are found in the supplement under this contract entitled “Psychogenic Effects of Perceived Exposure to Biochemical Warfare Agents.” Prevention of
exposure is conscientious hospital and food hygiene. Treatment involves various regimens of antibiotics; the literature provides inconsistent reports
on resistance and efficacy of various antimicrobial agents.
zero lift
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Originally posted by pikypiky
So after reading that letter a few more times, the general public are guinea pigs to these 'open trials' I would assume forever. And people won't
know when or where these 'future trials' will be done. It appears we are caught in the middle of a battle.
I'm kinda getting sick and tired of fear-mongering but this is truly disturbing.
It's not fear mongering when the government really is out to conduct heinous experiments on you.
This "government" severely damaged their standing when they allowed the private Federal Reserve banking system to get involved in our currency circa
1913. They surrendered *all* remaining claim to legitimacy when they started covert experiments on our population -- starting with Tuskegee syphilis
experiment in the 1930's.
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reply to post by rko_radio
With all due respect, the use of the civilian population as subjects began much earlier than 1930.... Perhaps not as egregiously as with the
ill-fated Tuskeegee Airmen, but it was happening.
You might note, however, that such wholesale abandonment of the principles of Constitutional governance DID in fact begin shortly after 1913.
Commerce, military weapons development, and direct social engineering were the objectives.
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Originally posted by Maxmars
reply to post by rko_radio
Commerce, military weapons development, and direct social engineering were the objectives.
How far have they come since 1913? Each of these objectives I mean.
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