reply to post by Kandinsky
Hiya Spikey, you'll have to link me up to some sources for these points...
I'll see what i can 'dig' up,
. I didn't use references, as this kind of thing still goes on these days, in remote parts of the world among
what we term primitive tribal people.
But i remember reading (donkeys years ago) about the ancient Celts and their 'Sun kings'. They reigned for seven years, and were then (willingly)
put to death, and fed to the people of the tribe. The idea being that the whole tribe would become imbued with the power and strength of the King, and
therefore guarantee the strength and continuation of the tribe.
Here's an anecdotal quote from a story i've found from 'The Independent' newspaper;
Archaeologists have the first firm evidence that the Ancient Britons were cannibals. The discovery has immense implications for our understanding of
ancient native religions. Excavations in Gloucestershire are yielding up the shattered bones of human sacrificial victims, some of whom appear to
have been partially devoured in cannibalistic rituals.
They don't touch upon exactly why they had this practice, but it does go some way to proving it went on.
I'll try to find references to what i was talking about elsewhere, but it's pretty hard going.
Native peoples in places like Guinea, only really stopped cannibalism just recently.
I can tell you, after reading only a limited number of the accounts of extreme barbarism and torture, and the butchered slaughter followed by the
cooking and eating of men, women and children by these 'people', i feel sick to my stomach, so i'll leave it up to you to find the references if
you or anyone else reading this are interested to know what went on.
This happened throughout history and only officially stopped a few decades ago. (some maintain the horrifically gruesome practices still go on in
Would you also believe that supposedly sophisticated, cultured and educated Western people, in Britain and the US (among other Western countries),
actually ate the dessicated mummified flesh from recovered Egyptian and South American mummies?
Well, shocking as it seems, during the Victorian period, this was an alarmingly common practice among the wealthy and upper middle classes!
They imagined the ground up bodies of mummies to have extraordinary medicinal properties, curiously beneficial for a whole range of ailments?!
(YEAH, I KNOW!). The upper class Victorians, went in for cannibalism...but..ahem..only for medicinal purposes you understand.
Blimey...our species is truly shocking when we dig below the surface isn't it.
As far as an enlightened egalitarian society goes, i see your points, and to a large extent i agree. However, we are thinking with a biased point of
view, having been born and living in a system that is not (or anywhere near egalitarian), and have our views of what is possible functionally and what
we imagine isn't.
I'd imagine, if they were a 'leaderless or king/queenless' society, a great many decisions centered around the topics you mention, were made by
consensus, rather than decree. I'd have to put some more thought into it, if i wanted to do your question real justice, but i can see it being
relatively straightforward to have such a society. Not only managing from day to day, but becoming an awe inspiring and hugely technologically
advanced society, as they patently were.
Cheers for your reply mate.
(take my advice, DON'T search for the lowdown on British New Guinea Cannibals...I was planning a night of passion with the wife tonight...i'm not
sure i feel very romantic after reading what i have!!)