mosque near ground zero greenlighted , page 3

Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by ~Lucidity

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You have about as many threads on here as NY has mosques, which is 90 plus mosques so why don't you allow us to discuss this, please go to your many homes Luc.

I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with the topic? My threads? My homes?

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Anyway, can you enlighten us on the threat that is Cordoba or not? Per you contribution on page 1 of the topic.

reply to post by neo96

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Do you have proof that THIS mosque will be used for nefarious deeds?

You have said a few times that it will be used for such beyond a doubt.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by neo96
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theres a short list of bombings/attacks on the us.



exception of mcveigh home grown idiot.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by neo96]

I only saw 1. That in 1993. The others were mainly in the middle east. Yes, they may have been against US forces, such as Lebanon but are you saying that the terrorist fly to NY to plan attacks over there? If not the whole premise of this thread has been shown for what it is.

no they wont have to fly anywhere nyc welcomes them with open arms.

i cant beleive people are so blind.

even the most innocent thing can be dangerous if you people cannot see the truth of that then there is no hope for this country.

it is a simple fact every move we make has consquences and they can and more often than not that always come back to hanut us.

reply to post by ~Lucidity

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As I mentioned before, its about how they avoid the issue of funding Luc.
Just because you dont like my answer doesnt mean you can continue to badger me on the same question.

reply to post by neo96

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Isn't this like saying that every church in Europe is like commending Charlamagne's river of blood?

Seriously. It was PEOPLE not a RELIGION that flew those towers into the WTC.

Originally posted by neo96
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theres a short list of bombings/attacks on the us.



exception of mcveigh home grown idiot.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by neo96]

Actually Mcveigh was a mind control slave (MK-ULTR) too. He was reported as being in a trance like state when he was was picked up. Same power behind his crime as the pilots of 911. You need to do some reading on Nazi Germany and mind control. I assure you, when you are done with that discovery, all of this will make sense to you. There is an evil element pulling the strings all over the globe. What we are seeing is what they want us to see.

Most of America is under their spell. If you don't believe me, think back to all the most horrific 'murders/suicides/war) events in your lifetime. I'll bet you will remember where you were at the time, what you were doing, what were you thinking? etc. These are memories that 'we the people' have been programmed with (at a much lower level) in order to gain the results that TPTB wanted us to have.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by nlouise]

Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by ~Lucidity

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As I mentioned before, its about how they avoid the issue of funding Luc.
Just because you dont like my answer doesnt mean you can continue to badger me on the same question.

Sorry. Then how is The Cordoba Initiative or Cordoba House related to the funding point? Are they collecting the funds? Is there evidence that this is being done illegally that I've missed? Or is it merely a question of the unknown, in which case don't our laws cover tracking terrorist funding, if that is the concern?

Originally posted by sweetliberty
reply to post by ~Lucidity

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No Luc! NO!
I will not respond to you at all! Do not respond to me either, I would like to hear what neo is saying. Thank you!

I see. Would it be wrong of me to assume that you don't have the answers to the questions I'm asking about funding and legalities and Cordoba? If that's the case, just say so.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by neo96

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Opinion:

The Ground Zero mosque has every right to exist in this location. If this were a Church or a Synagogue there would not be so much hell being raised.

It shows that the ignorance and intolerance coming from most on the Right and from you, the OP, is staggering. Considering that the building was legally given the green light you are complaining on a moral basis.

All this complaining implies is that you categorize an entire group of people based upon the actions of a radical few. It is ignorance, egotism, Islamophobia and intolerance combined into an argument which you, OP, and they, other Islamaphobics, justify by using 9/11 as your excuse.

[edit on 8/3/2010 by Misoir]

Is it wrong to blame an entire group for the deeds of a few? Well, usually, yeah. But humans tend to go a bit nutso when in grief or shock and want to find someone to blame. It's natural to see the face of the enemy in the familiar.

However, were you one that was personally affected by the events of 9/11? And "personally affected" doesn't even have to mean someone who lost a loved one. NYC is home for ~9 million people. Having your home attacked is pretty darn personal. See how you would feel afterward about certain groups if someone that looked like them attacked you or yours.

Speaking for myself, I feel it's insensitive of the Islamic community to build a mosque there. Their motives may be pure and they probably are doing it to try and build good faith between "us and them". But most people in NYC appear to think otherwise. Doing something because someone thinks it's a good idea is OK and all, but you might want make sure any others that it's affecting feel the same way. You say we're intolerant of Muslims for not wanting a mosque built on that site. I say they're not being considerate of the victims and their families.

reply to post by neo96

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There's a reason people always bring up Christianity and the crusades: It is, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the same thing happening.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

Guess what? We are repeating it!

We did not learn after the crusades that killing people over their invisible friend was wrong. What's worse is (if my memory serves me correctly) that Muslims were part of the ones who were killed in the crusades.

I am not denying that Islamic extremists use mosques to recruit. There has been proof of this.

What you have failed to provide is proof that THIS MOSQUE, BEING BUILT NEAR GROUND ZERO will do the same thing.

So again, if you have proof of this, it would be beneficial to EVERYONE if you showed it.

Otherwise, all we can do legally is wait and see. You wouldn't want someone stopping you from doing what you want because they think you harbor ill feelings toward a certain group, you can't expect to do the same thing to someone else.

I get where your anger is coming from, but we live in a free society. You can't go around expecting to take other people's rights away.

reply to post by neo96

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So tell me if I'm hearing you right neo.

Are you hoping to discuss this subject beyond religion?

Are you trying to first talk this out so you can deduce which quetions need to be answered?

Are you on of the few who is taking this subject at the angle of a conspiracy theorist angle?

High five Neo!

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