Originally posted by jin
Did you all miss something? Didn't shuttle discovery turn to rubble because of a small tare in its tile? Could a small scale shuttle x-38 Bounce off the ground? Could a missile bounce off the ground? I really don't think so . I have many many videos of F-16 crashes and Ill tell you its no jet, Its not a rocket. And just because it is near Edwards AFB does not mean it is not our Government testing a Alien Space craft. If UFO's do exist than there was a crash and our Government does have them.
I am working on a detailed analysis of this Video You can see my progress on my site click the Investigation link. www.truthufo.com
If this is an x-38, f-16 or missile than it is the very first one ever to have bounced off the ground in one piece.

jin

While i do not think it was an f-16 and other things you said, i have to ask. Why do people always come on here saying the government has extremely advanced planes, but show no evidence? I dont know just never made sense to me.

ive seen that vid before, but i dont know what it is.

I have seen this video before and there is a much larger one.I think I even have it on cd some where.I will have a look.
I will say that it is not some ordanary craft.It does seem to bounce and gain momentum as it 'tries' again,and then finally crashing.I cant remember if the glitch is in the file I have but I dont think it is an edit to fool anyone.All you have to do is watch the background.I know you cant see it good as the video offered is like a thumbtac.I will try hard to find the version I got long ago and post it for better viewing.

There is no way, under the current technological level that is known to the public, that ANY aircraft or current weapon is capable of impacting the ground at the angle shown in the video and still able to "climb" back into the air.

The example of a rock skipping on the water is not comparable as a rock is a dense solid material where a plan or a constuction of say a missile or rocket is made up of many different interlocking components and are not a complete solid. If we found a way to make a completly solid missile that could propel and guide itself while being contructed out of one or maybe two materials at the most then I could go along with your theory.

The basic fact that the object regains altitude after striking the ground and does not veer off wildly, leads me to believe that this is something outside of the realm of our current publicly acknowledged technology level.

I saw this a few years ago, too. I tend to agree with some of the posts that this is a missle shot gone awry. I've seen plenty of test footage of missles, jet engines, etc. I think it entirely plausible that this is a fouled test of a conventional object, even with the object appearing to "survive" the intial impact.

i've got a really bad quality version of that vid that i've had for a lil while now. Does anyone have a link for a good quality version of it?

There are lots of explanations no one will ever know what it was for sure I can almost promise you it wasn't a missle seeing how it exploded and all if it would have been a missle it woudl have exploded when it hit the first time. But it could have been a plane or something maybe .. But really have you ever seen a plane crash not saying that it couldn't happen but I mean ... usually when a plane goes down it crumbles on top of itself whenever it hits the ground it just slams over on itself that is what the people in the middle of the plane have greatest change of surviving the front of the plane is destroyed on impact and the back plips over on top of the front and the people in the middle are wrapped up liek a tortilla ... that is why there are mostly come survivors on plane crashes unless they get folded up so tight they all die in the wreck which happen often or it just explodes because of all teh fuel .. either way ... the plane does not bounce even with its landing gear on it would not bounce at the angle that the plane appears to be coming down at ... but who knows it could be just some video someone took and stretched out and Sped up . ?? Who cares you guys have nothing else to use your brains for lol .. ? Think about something else go to another forum hehe . Peace . GL 2 all

This is a weapon developed under Project Skipping Stone.

The idea was to take the bouncing betty land mine concept to a whole new level. A launched explosive using a ceramic/kevlar/milar skin with a thick saline gell running in between the layers after the first skip the "warhead" arms detonating on the second skip. A very usefull...just kidding I have no idea what it is but I bet some of you were freaking out right there.

In terms of us not having any technology that could do what we see on the video, that's just not true. It is generally acknowledged that the US military is usually about forty years ahead of public knowledge.

By the time the SR-71 went public the technology in that bird was already twenty years or so old, same with the stealth bomber and "fighter".

It's most likely (99.9999999999999%) a government weapon or UAV test gone wonky.

Spiderj

discovery channel had a ufo documentary that shouwed it as a lead in clip for a segment... the funny thing was... it was the best video footage of the whole hour long program, and it was just used in a "bumper" shot collage... they never did comment about that particular video during the program, but yet it was shown in the shows advertisments and lead-ins... no comment... to me that means there was nothing of interest to say... it looked impressive enough to make people watch the show, but rather than show the video during he show and say "and here is a rather inpressive video of a military aircraft that looks like a UFO" they just didn't mention it... they must have played it 8-10 times (before/after every commercial). I would have to think if it was a real ufo, that they would have at least commented on it...
just a military test.

interesting video. i cant determine if it is an ufo or some top secret military project

Did anyone pick up the remains or ??

-Becs

Originally posted by robertfenix
Wow, some of you have an amazing grasp of physics. sic.

Velocity + angle of impact = assured destruction


There is currently no know composite, metal, or alloy that could withstand that sort of impact and yet still have its propulsion ? system intact enough to carry the "craft" into the air, let alone on the same relative heading from the impact point. The object is illuminated and when the illuminated object breaks apart it is in a showers of "sparks" that retain the same illumination properties of the main object.

So either the object/ craft is made out of some super strong metal ? that has not been released to the public or it is something other than man made.

I am siding more with a classified man-made super technology myself, that (could) have been reverse engineered, or indeed we posses wild crafts that meet every qualification as being identified as a UFO yet are very terrestrial in nature. Leaving you to believe that the whole subject of "aliens and ufos" is really and has always been a massive cover story for the Goverment to withold advanced leaps in science, for fear of National Security.

Or perhaps it's much better to use technologies without paying patents! Or how about using alien intelligence that rightly would belong to humanity instead of the military???

I would like to prove/disprove the "Project Skipping Stone" idea, but my initial search reaped bupkiss. zero. nada. Anyone know any links/books that might get to the bottom of this one?

(yeah, iknow links to secret project-HA!)

[edit on 23-8-2004 by Der Kapitan]

Originally posted by Der Kapitan
I've seen plenty of test footage of missles, jet engines, etc. I think it entirely plausible that this is a fouled test of a conventional object, even with the object appearing to "survive" the intial impact.

Maybe it's just me, but I have a small problem with people claiming their knowledge about a subject to support their opinion, not providing any information as to their actual expertise in the matter. So no offence intended, but what is your knowledge based on? Is watching plenty of test footage of missles, jet engines, etc part of what you do for a living or have you merely been watching Discovery?

Originally posted by Der Kapitan
I would like to prove/disprove the "Project Skipping Stone" idea, but my initial search reaped bupkiss. zero. nada. Anyone know any links/books that might get to the bottom of this one?

lol

Durden-
Merely watching discovery? That is the same as saying "merely reading a book." No, I do not work in the aerospace field. I'm fascinated with machines, flying machines, tanks, boats, etc. I have read, watched docmentaries on this subject for most of my life. I don't consider myself ignorant to the world of ufos, aircraft, and the like. Is someones opinion any better or worse than yours because they read or watch "good" tv? It looked to me like a missle test, if I'm wrong I'll live with it. Where's your proof that its a UFO? I fail to understand why it seems people think saucers are dropping out of the air like rain. by the accounts I've read our yards should be full of ET junk. Incredible claims require incredible proof. I don't see anything incredible in this footage, yeah cool crash, but that's it.


P.S. I'm tired too. Tired of being handed virtually nothing and expected to believe it based on a fuzzy pic or "unknown" source.
[edit on 23-8-2004 by Der Kapitan]

[edit on 23-8-2004 by Der Kapitan]

I would like to prove/disprove the "Project Skipping Stone" idea, but my initial search reaped bupkiss. zero. nada. Anyone know any links/books that might get to the bottom of this one?

You were kidding right Der Kapitan?



If not read my whole post.

Spiderj

Originally posted by Der Kapitan
Merely watching discovery? That is the same as saying "merely reading a book." No, I do not work in the aerospace field. I'm fascinated with machines, flying machines, tanks, boats, etc. I have read, watched docmentaries on this subject for most of my life. I don't consider myself ignorant to the world of ufos, aircraft, and the like. Is someones opinion any better or worse than yours because they read or watch "good" tv? It looked to me like a missle test, if I'm wrong I'll live with it. Where's your proof that its a UFO? I fail to understand why it seems people think saucers are dropping out of the air like rain. by the accounts I've read our yards should be full of ET junk. Incredible claims require incredible proof. I don't see anything incredible in this footage, yeah cool crash, but that's it.

Actually I doubt there is anything extra terrestrial about this footage. My point was stated in my previous post and had nothing to do with this being a flying saucer, now did it?

HA HA HA, damn. Yeah. I see that now, Spiderj. That's what I get for trying to jump in on the ATS when I'm at work. That'll learn me. Guess I'll go home now. Is there an emoticon for embarrassed? There should be.

Good night everybody! Tip your wait staff.......

Ah you're a good sport Der Kapitan. But I believe an important lesson has been learned got to read them posts carefully and fully folks.

Nyuk!
Spiderj