Info on egg whites courtesy of loren cordain:

Lysozyme from Egg Whites by Loren Cordain

In all three of my books, I have advocated egg consumption, particularly eggs that are produced with high omega 3 fatty acid contents. Chicken eggs are generally a nutritious food and are a good source of selenium, vitamin A, vitamin D and the B vitamins, some minerals and lutein as Barbara indicated. Additionally, numerous recent experimental and epidemiological studies (reviewed in references 1, 2) indicate that regular egg consumption (7 per week) does not increase the risk for coronary heart disease (CHD). As I have previously noted, although eggs are one of the most concentrated sources of dietary cholesterol (212 mg per egg), dietary cholesterol has a minimal effect upon blood cholesterol concentrations in most people1, 3. Further, high cholesterol egg diets cause an increase in blood HDL particles1 and reduce the highly atherogenic small dense LDL particles while simultaneously increasing the less atherogenic large, "fluffy" LDL particles4, 5.

So, should everybody include eggs in their diet on a daily basis? Not necessarily, particularly if we examine the evolutionary template. Without question our preagricultural ancestors would have collected and consumed eggs from birds’ nests whenever possible. However, in the wild, bird eggs only appear seasonally. Hence, pre-agricultural humans could have never consumed two eggs for breakfast every morning of the year similar to some westernized people, but rather only occasionally for a few brief weeks or months.

If we follow up on the clue from the evolutionary template and examine eggs more closely, they maintain certain nutritional shortcomings that may be problematic, particularly for people suffering from autoimmune diseases and allergies. Although eggs are classified as animal food sources and are lumped together with meats in the USDA My Pyramid, eggs are uniquely different from meats in that they represent the reproductive endpoints of adult birds which exist outside their mother’s body in a semipermeable, warm compartment. As such, all eggs are particularly vulnerable to invasion, attack and destruction by microorganisms such as fungi, bacteria and viruses present in their nesting environment.

The innermost yolk of a chicken egg represents the growing embryo which is anchored to the albumen or egg white by structures called chalazae. Outward from the egg white are the inner and outer membranes and then the shell, all of which provide physical barriers to infection from pathogens and microorganisms. The egg white makes up about 58% of the total egg volume and contains about 50% of the total egg protein and is composed of 88.5% water, 10.5% protein and 0.5% carbohydrate6. The function of the egg white is threefold: 1) storage of nutrients for the growing embryo (yolk), 2) protection of the egg from microbial attack, and 3) transport of nutrients into the growing embryo.

As I have previously mentioned, a chicken egg is the reproductive endpoint for adult birds and survives by living outside its mother’s body in a semi permeable compartment that is essentially immovable. Accordingly, it has no means of protecting itself from microorganisms or predation by physical escape or avoidance. For this reason, the evolutionary strategy eggs have taken to protect themselves from microbial invaders is to select for toxic substances in the egg white; mainly in the form of antimicrobial proteins. Table 1 lists the major proteins in egg whites and their likely functions.



[edit on 13-8-2010 by Sourdough4life]

Cholesterol from diet bad? Even if you went on a totally cholesterol
free diet, your body still makes it's own. Enough so it could kill you
if your homocysteine levels where not in place. Cholesterol is the
wrong marker to look at. Homocysteine levels are what you should
be looking at. Homocysteine levels are related to your insulin levels.
So the poster talking about the insulin nailed it. Cholesterol is so
important to a new born, that without it, has proven severe brain
under development. I'd suggest researching homocysteine markers.

Originally posted by Fifth Horseman


I will post my thoughts about them saturday if anyone cares to read.

What happened to your post? I was interested in your thoughts on these studies, not some bs post about sodium

Originally posted by Fifth Horseman
milk can spoil

Raw milk doesn't spoil, it ferments and gets better

Originally posted by Fifth Horseman
800 miligrams? one setting, are you serious.

Absolutely nothing wrong with 800mg of sodium in one sitting if you think there is prove it

Originally posted by Fifth Horseman
Please google me up some studies saying 40 times the US RDA of sodium has shown to make native Madagascarians fly at the speed of sound, and has led to an increase in lifespan by 20 years and have giant schlongs. I bet you will.

I never made any claims on the amount of sodium we should eat and I definitely never claimed 40 times the rda was ideal lol. You generally want about a 4/1 ratio of potassium/sodium.



[edit on 16-8-2010 by Sourdough4life]

I was just reading the book Left in the Dark, what they are saying is the human brain has gotten smaller, and this is due to being forced to eat meat.
The whole thing makes alot of sence, meat raises testosterone levels, which makes people more agressive, meat diet has been the down fall of humans, not even to speak of the fast food.

The little bug eating mammals floished in the forest, when it begin eating fruit, this is when they became the the large brain, large body, bipeds.

"Human brain size peaked at about 1,440 grams, typical today is 1,300 grams, there goes your meat theory, and the ultra-brainy modern Homo sapien is decidedly shaky".

[edit on 19-8-2010 by googolplex]

Originally posted by googolplex
meat raises testosterone levels, which makes people more agressive, meat diet has been the down fall of humans, not even to speak of the fast food.

I'm sure having low levels of testosterone like may vegetarians/vegans have is good?


I'm sorry but your post is beyond ignorant, humans on average get way more exogenous estrogen then testosterone. Estrogen is the real problem, creating a bunch of girlie men that have no drive.

Men are supposed to have high testosterone its what gives us the drive to hunt, makes us strong, encourages us to reproduce etc.

Originally posted by Sourdough4life

Originally posted by googolplex
meat raises testosterone levels, which makes people more agressive, meat diet has been the down fall of humans, not even to speak of the fast food.

I'm sure having low levels of testosterone like may vegetarians/vegans have is good?


I'm sorry but your post is beyond ignorant, humans on average get way more exogenous estrogen then testosterone. Estrogen is the real problem, creating a bunch of girlie men that have no drive.

Men are supposed to have high testosterone its what gives us the drive to hunt, makes us strong, encourages us to reproduce etc.

I will not lower myself to calling you ignorant, but it's obious you did not even read the book I metioned.

It's also obvious you have never heard of the gorilla, chimpanzee, or the bonobo, or else you would be aware of they exist on a diet consisting of mostly fruit. The Bonobo is closer relative of humans than the Chimpanzee. You are possibily right that the fruit from the older periods was more nutrtious, than todays fruit.
There is a whole mouitain side in the tropics that is planted with fruit up the mountian side, as you go up the mountian the fruit changes from the tropical kind, to the cold climate type such as pears, apples, peaches, berries.

Like I said I would not lower myself to name calling which is frowned upon at ATS, But any Moron I'm sure is aware the in the Bible when Adam and Eve, were thrown out of the Garden of Eden this was a bad thing.
As to being cast down, and the animals will fear you and will be your meat, being force to killing and eat animals, pror to this they lived like kings in the Garden, don't go all Bible freak out, I'm only speaking as a analogy.
Pior to this, they were living like Kings, rather than as you say hunting, or chasing down a bloodie rat.
Now adays you don't get much hunting at burger king, or at the end of a high powered rifle and scope, at least I would not call it hunting.

I'm sure your aware that a female hyena grows a fake penis because the testosterone levels are so high, and they are very agressive. Also so I believe the meat causes problems with all the hormone levels including estrogen.
Why are all these meat eaters gettig sick, fruit and vegatables do the oppsite of meat and do not promote things such as cancer. Got to much testosterone got prostate problems?


One other thing I don't believe these people, refering to the people who wrote book, were fruitarians, but are scientist trying to understand something, but may have become fruitarian upon relization that humans were indeed ment to be fruitarians.
You should realy read that book.


[edit on 19-8-2010 by googolplex]

hey what a nice thread and surveys,really enjoyable.I wonder if it is to much to attempt some logical explanation about the diets that religions follow using these fingings.

a few thousand years ago it made sense to eat meat. but humans are extremely poorly adapted to hunting without the use of technology.
poor running speed, poor night vision, relatively weak for our size, flat teeth, flat finger nails, poor endurance. long digestive tract, diseases, expensive to produce, kills the earth, etc.etc.etc you get the idea.
meat is an antiquated idealogy for diets and someday will be looked upon for waht it is, cruel and poisnonous.