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Are Women Conditioned To Be Weak By Society?

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posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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Men are emotional and have emotional outbursts too.

I hear my neighbors yelling and clapping for a TV sports game right now. Getting emotional over a game. And yelling and clapping at something that cannot hear them.

Yep. These men. Stone cold logicians they are.




posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Whiffer Nippets
Men are emotional and have emotional outbursts too.

I hear my neighbors yelling and clapping for a TV sports game right now. Getting emotional over a game. And yelling and clapping at something that cannot hear them.

Yep. These men. Stone cold logicians they are.



all men are half women. its to be expected. but all women are two women...and their outbursts are all emotion and irrational sometimes. if society is conditioning women to be weak, which I don't that it does, its so that they learn to yield to men, the less emotional, in times of emergency.

A woman possesses a great degree of power within the fabric of society and her emotional outbursts can destroy the world...if she is somewhat weak and learns to accept her weakness, then perhaps her strong male partner doesn't have to work so hard to bring her back within acceptable levels of behavior.

A strong woman, whatever the hell that is, that can overcome her environment with ease coupled with an emotional wreck is the recipe for a nuclear weapon, I think.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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The power of a feminine energy is coming back very fast. I believe the males are afraid of this power and have repressed women for this very reason through out the ages.

Watch out masculinity! Your time is almost up! Time for feminine energy to rule the Earth once again and tidy up your mess!



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by misuneko
The power of a feminine energy is coming back very fast. I believe the males are afraid of this power and have repressed women for this very reason through out the ages.

Watch out masculinity! Your time is almost up! Time for feminine energy to rule the Earth once again and tidy up your mess!



You see? That's the emotional BS that I was talking about earlier.

Such a desire makes no sense whatsoever...just an outburst.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfinn

Originally posted by Whiffer Nippets
Men are emotional and have emotional outbursts too.

I hear my neighbors yelling and clapping for a TV sports game right now. Getting emotional over a game. And yelling and clapping at something that cannot hear them.

Yep. These men. Stone cold logicians they are.



all men are half women. its to be expected. but all women are two women...and their outbursts are all emotion and irrational sometimes. if society is conditioning women to be weak, which I don't that it does, its so that they learn to yield to men, the less emotional, in times of emergency.

A woman possesses a great degree of power within the fabric of society and her emotional outbursts can destroy the world...if she is somewhat weak and learns to accept her weakness, then perhaps her strong male partner doesn't have to work so hard to bring her back within acceptable levels of behavior.

A strong woman, whatever the hell that is, that can overcome her environment with ease coupled with an emotional wreck is the recipe for a nuclear weapon, I think.



What every much you do not understand and know about the feminine energies of gaia. It has been masculine energy that has and is still moving everyone to their destruction. what you say is very child like.

The balance of masculine and feminine energy is the key. Every person has both aspects of male and female energy. If you believe what you wrote then you need to balance your energies and come to embrace femininity.

Until Humanity learns this balance this world continues to swing on the pendulum of disharmony. But bringing this balance of male and female aspects can create a world that we can be proud of living on as one.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfinn

Originally posted by Whiffer Nippets
Men are emotional and have emotional outbursts too.

I hear my neighbors yelling and clapping for a TV sports game right now. Getting emotional over a game. And yelling and clapping at something that cannot hear them.

Yep. These men. Stone cold logicians they are.



all men are half women. its to be expected. but all women are two women...and their outbursts are all emotion and irrational sometimes. if society is conditioning women to be weak, which I don't that it does, its so that they learn to yield to men, the less emotional, in times of emergency.

A woman possesses a great degree of power within the fabric of society and her emotional outbursts can destroy the world...if she is somewhat weak and learns to accept her weakness, then perhaps her strong male partner doesn't have to work so hard to bring her back within acceptable levels of behavior.

A strong woman, whatever the hell that is, that can overcome her environment with ease coupled with an emotional wreck is the recipe for a nuclear weapon, I think.



What every much you do not understand and know about the feminine energies of gaia. It has been masculine energy that has and is still moving everyone to their destruction. what you say is very child like.

The balance of masculine and feminine energy is the key. Every person has both aspects of male and female energy. If you believe what you wrote then you need to balance your energies and come to embrace femininity.

Until Humanity learns this balance this world continues to swing on the pendulum of disharmony. But bringing this balance of male and female aspects can create a world that we can be proud of living on as one.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by bruxfinn

Originally posted by misuneko
The power of a feminine energy is coming back very fast. I believe the males are afraid of this power and have repressed women for this very reason through out the ages.

Watch out masculinity! Your time is almost up! Time for feminine energy to rule the Earth once again and tidy up your mess!



You see? That's the emotional BS that I was talking about earlier.

Such a desire makes no sense whatsoever...just an outburst.


Its not a desire its a fact. Feminine energy is going to rise above masculinity as it has done before in the ages. its just a shift of the ages. Both extremes of femininity and masculinity are dangerous. Its about balancing it to work in harmony. At the moment its to much towards masculine this will change.

Are you afraid of your own emotions? scared to see the feminine power within your own self? Remember our higher selves are both aspects. People need to embrace both sides and not just see their external image and project through their ego.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by misuneko

Originally posted by bruxfinn

Originally posted by Whiffer Nippets
Men are emotional and have emotional outbursts too.

I hear my neighbors yelling and clapping for a TV sports game right now. Getting emotional over a game. And yelling and clapping at something that cannot hear them.

Yep. These men. Stone cold logicians they are.



all men are half women. its to be expected. but all women are two women...and their outbursts are all emotion and irrational sometimes. if society is conditioning women to be weak, which I don't that it does, its so that they learn to yield to men, the less emotional, in times of emergency.

A woman possesses a great degree of power within the fabric of society and her emotional outbursts can destroy the world...if she is somewhat weak and learns to accept her weakness, then perhaps her strong male partner doesn't have to work so hard to bring her back within acceptable levels of behavior.

A strong woman, whatever the hell that is, that can overcome her environment with ease coupled with an emotional wreck is the recipe for a nuclear weapon, I think.



What every much you do not understand and know about the feminine energies of gaia. It has been masculine energy that has and is still moving everyone to their destruction. what you say is very child like.

The balance of masculine and feminine energy is the key. Every person has both aspects of male and female energy. If you believe what you wrote then you need to balance your energies and come to embrace femininity.

Until Humanity learns this balance this world continues to swing on the pendulum of disharmony. But bringing this balance of male and female aspects can create a world that we can be proud of living on as one.


No, to the extent that the masculine is moving you to your destruction, I am fine, I assure you, it is probably the men that don't know anything of the masculine and embrace their feminine aspects fully; women trapped in men's bodies is what they are. In short...its the metrosexual lady boys that are responsible for the destruction in yours and possibly other women's worlds.

In my world, the balance of the masculine and feminine is perfectly balanced...I am the Man and my wife is the woman and I embrace her and our children as often as possible. But thanks for the advice.

Futhermore to that...when she starts stomping around the house on a tirade for no particular reason...she admits that sometimes she's just irate and inconsoleable...many women have this issue but refuse to admit it.

They decide instead to reason that it the men that are the problem...in America, the very same men that they raised over the last few generations...as America saw an increase in single parent homes led by women over the last 60 or so years.

Now that I think about it...you believe I need to embrace my feminine side...how much is too much? I think the women that have been running things gave their sons way to much femininity and not enough masculinity. It's not your fault though...no Woman has a Y choromosome, so there are limits to what any woman could do.

And I am sorry that you feel that the world that women created is not one we can be proud of. I have many issues with the generation before me, but I still enjoy the world and life. But I am rational and not given to emotional outbursts.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna
Well, now that depends on the crowd doesn't it.


Now you're getting desperate, and splitting hairs.
Even at fairs and restaurants women spend more time onhow they look.
I've been to ''nice'' restaurants where I must have looked like something a cat dragged in !


Originally posted by Jenna
What was your point again? Oh, you were trying to say it's just women, or mostly women, who do that. Nope.


Er, yes women do actually. Women obsess about their looks, appearance and attraction to the opposite sex far more than men do.
I refer you to my previous point about who, on average, spends the most money, time and effort on hair, skin, clothes, shoes,smelling nice etc.

We both know that's it's women, no matter how much you attempt to wish that fact away.


Originally posted by Jenna
Your idea of rationalization is that men almost always do things for themselves while women only do things to attract those men. Yeah, it's a rationalization. It's just not an accurate one.


LOL.
You just are upset that my rationalisation about men and women attempting to gain a desired body shape is accurate.

Do you actually read my posts ? Or are just replying to points you hope I'm going to make ?

As someone that works out, I do so for four reasons, namely: Make myself look more physically imposing, building strength, staying healthy, ( and yes ) impressing chicks.

The reasons for a woman trying to get thinner is to impress men and stay healthy ( and even that's debatable, depending on how thin they want to get ).


Originally posted by Jenna
So treating a woman like a slut based on her physical appearance is showing respect? You didn't outright say it, that's true. But you said repeatedly that if a woman looks like a slut she deserves to be treated like a slut.
If someone can't be treated equally because of their physical appearance, the only other option is to treat them as lesser.


You are trying to shift the blame.
The responsibility in how someone dresses lies entirely with the person that decides to wear the clothes.
How you dress gives off a huge impression to other people.

A scantily clad woman triggers instinctive hormonal responses in men, which make us start thinking about sex.
Women know this. If they are willing to promote themselves as sex objects, then they are going to be primarily viewed that way.
How difficult can that be for you to grasp ?

They can't be treated equally because of the way they dress - not physical appearance ( as people can't always help that ).

Once more, I'll ask you to show where I've said that I treat them with less respect.


Originally posted by Jenna
To emulate is to imitate. Yes, you did indeed say women are just trying to be like men. That's what imitate and emulate mean.


Oh dear.
I didn't say women are just trying to be like men, I said:
''But a woman's ''success'' is quite often defined as emulating a male role in any given situation.'' I then went on:
''Many times a woman will expect or receive praise for doing a typically ''man's job'', yet most men just regard the accomplishment as something normal.''

My comment was lamenting the fact that women can get undue praise for doing something just because of their gender.

How can you not see that that doesn't possibly relate to a point you're erroneously trying to attribute to me ?


Originally posted by Jenna
And again. I'm curious why you say something and then deny it means what it says when it comes back up later on. Very curious indeed.


What are you on about ?
You are getting seriously confused if you think I ever suggested that a woman can't be sexy without dressing sluttily.


Originally posted by Jenna
I'd say the magazines made what was a passing curiosity into something more obsessive for many people.


I'd say you're wrong.
Women tend to gossip and tittle-tattle all the time about innocuous activities and the private lives of people that they barely know too well in real life.

I believe the magazines are just taking advantage of this aspect of womens nature.


Originally posted by Jenna
Oh, I understand perfectly dear. You're just ignoring men aren't immune to prying into someone else's life. Over 80% of stalkers are men.


You didn't seriously just compare stalkers with someone reading about the private lives of some reality tv ''star'', did you ?

Stalkers are usually sick in the head. They obsess about one particular person's private life, because they are dangerously besotted with them.


Originally posted by Jenna
Drop the condescension. There's no need for it.


I'll be as condescending as I want to be, pet.



Originally posted by Jenna
Then there are all of your denials that men fall into obsessing over anyone or even their own appearance. The only circumstances in which you'll admit such behavior exists is if they are obsessing over themselves to get healthier and declare any who do it for other reasons to be few and far between even though it is demonstrably false.


I have no idea why you pasted a series of random comments from me that were posted earlier in the thread, but I'll humour you anyway.

You really need to get back on board the logic express, Jen.

I have never claimed that some men don't obsess over their appearance.
I've acknowledged that impressing women is one of the factors in men working out at the gym.
You just can't seem to accept or acknowledge any negative comments or observations about your gender.
That's your problem, though.


Originally posted by Jenna
According to you, men are better at everything and a woman's success is usually just emulating men. Meanwhile women only do things to attract men or make each other jealous but men do it just because. I don't expect you to understand how sexist those comments are, I really don't.


Once again I have to pull you up on misquoting and misrepresenting my words.

I never said that men are better at everything.

I never said that women's success is usually just emulating men.


PRO TIP

Try reading the actual words in my posts to understand what I've said, rather than forming an opinion on what you think or hopw that I've said.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Whiffer Nippets
I hear my neighbors yelling and clapping for a TV sports game right now. Getting emotional over a game. And yelling and clapping at something that cannot hear them.


That's just the willing suspension of disbelief.
It's no different to feeling a range of emotions while you're watching a film or play.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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It's a good job women don't have any real power in the world.

I can just imagine a nuclear war ensuing, because a female president decided to push the red button during that ''time of the month''.

Or a diplomatic incident occurring, because one female world leader called another one a ''slag''.

[edit on 8-8-2010 by Sherlock Holmes]



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by misuneko

Originally posted by bruxfinn

Originally posted by misuneko
The power of a feminine energy is coming back very fast. I believe the males are afraid of this power and have repressed women for this very reason through out the ages.

Watch out masculinity! Your time is almost up! Time for feminine energy to rule the Earth once again and tidy up your mess!



You see? That's the emotional BS that I was talking about earlier.

Such a desire makes no sense whatsoever...just an outburst.


Its not a desire its a fact. Feminine energy is going to rise above masculinity as it has done before in the ages. its just a shift of the ages. Both extremes of femininity and masculinity are dangerous. Its about balancing it to work in harmony. At the moment its to much towards masculine this will change.

Are you afraid of your own emotions? scared to see the feminine power within your own self? Remember our higher selves are both aspects. People need to embrace both sides and not just see their external image and project through their ego.


That's not it. I am quite aware of the war your sisters have launched upon the world to bring forth their feminine paradise. I am also aware that you and your sisters have been successful in the past. I don't agree that your dream will come true, however.

I have yet to see the Sun Rise in the West and it doesn't appear that such an event will happen anytime soon.

What I do see, though, is the very same feminine energy sacrificing their children to their perverse doctrine; indicating that things are not evolving as planned.

But what I do know is that being weak sometimes brings a strategic advantage, but if you think balance means that feminine will overcome the masculine I am not so sure that the world you could create would be much better than the one that currently exists...also a product of irrational feminine rage.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Your post has made my day, haha... There is much more to the manifestations in the physical world to do with masculine and feminine energies.

i believe that every being has both aspects and it is being able to balance these energies to create harmony within a human being. (ying and yang) mediation is a good way to connect to your higher self and connect to yourself without ego or attachment to your gender.

Your projection of your reality is always going to be perfect to you, because you created it. As much as my reality is in perfect balance in mine.

Its only when a human cannot accept that they have both ying and yang within then and fear one aspect because their external appearance and upbringing has not been stable, maybe due to the parents not being in touch with both aspects?



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Your not listening!

The world needs to embrace both aspects. Two much of one creates dis-balance. At the moment there is to much masculine.

Even within people this balance needs to be addressed.

I do not need to explain myself any further. If females or males have a problem with these energies they need to do the work on themselves to create this harmony within their own beings before making judgement on the outside world.

I hope the balance of ying and yang can create a better world both internally and externally.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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That time of the month is something to be celebrated. A connection to the cycles of the world, of the universe, in creating, in incubation. In celebration of life.

Im not sure why you think its funny to put women down like this? or what gives you that right?



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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That's not it. I am quite aware of the war your sisters have launched upon the world to bring forth their feminine paradise. I am also aware that you and your sisters have been successful in the past. I don't agree that your dream will come true, however.

I have yet to see the Sun Rise in the West and it doesn't appear that such an event will happen anytime soon.

What I do see, though, is the very same feminine energy sacrificing their children to their perverse doctrine; indicating that things are not evolving as planned.

But what I do know is that being weak sometimes brings a strategic advantage, but if you think balance means that feminine will overcome the masculine I am not so sure that the world you could create would be much better than the one that currently exists...also a product of irrational feminine rage.



You think there is a war going on with my sisters? Your missing the point. We are all one! male and females on this planet are all ONE.
And what feminine energies are sacrificing their children to perverse doctine? please elaborate.

Seems like paranoia!



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by misuneko
Im not sure why you think its funny to put women down like this? or what gives you that right?


Relax.
Take a chill pill.

Nothing or nobody needs to gives me a ''right''. I say what I like.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by misuneko
Im not sure why you think its funny to put women down like this? or what gives you that right?


Relax.
Take a chill pill.

Nothing or nobody needs to gives me a ''right''. I say what I like.


EGO. Nothing more can be said to you Sherlock Holmes!



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by misuneko
reply to post by bruxfinn
 


Your not listening!

The world needs to embrace both aspects. Two much of one creates dis-balance. At the moment there is to much masculine.

Even within people this balance needs to be addressed.

I do not need to explain myself any further. If females or males have a problem with these energies they need to do the work on themselves to create this harmony within their own beings before making judgement on the outside world.

I hope the balance of ying and yang can create a better world both internally and externally.


I am listening...I just believe that the world does now and always has embraced both aspects. I don't agree that society is deliberately sabotaging the development of women and after listening to this discussion for 25 years its become boring and tedious.

I was 15 when Oprah explained to me that I was personally responsible as a man for the oppression of the feminine...I was shocked at learning this at the time and tried to make concessions but now feel that this is a non-issue and enjoy challenging it everytime I see it emerge as a topic of conversation.

I think you may be refering to specific individuals that are out of balance, but your blanket statement that this is a social problem is incorrect.



posted on Aug, 8 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by misuneko

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by misuneko
Im not sure why you think its funny to put women down like this? or what gives you that right?


Relax.
Take a chill pill.

Nothing or nobody needs to gives me a ''right''. I say what I like.


EGO. Nothing more can be said to you Sherlock Holmes!



How do you know there's too much masculine now? Is it because you identify masculine with aggression? If the answer is yes, then why the association? Where does it come from?



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