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We are on a thread where we are discussing whether HIV is man made or not. NOT whether HIV causes AIDS.
AIDS is a man made virus !
Aids was created in a lab in the US between 1960 and 1970 to use as population control .
Either get to the topic or stay off the thread.
Originally posted by Amagnon
Wow - your only around 3 decades behind with your 'revelation'.
This is the kind of crap that annoys the hell out of me - in some way i am glad you are posting about this - on the other hand, everyone should know this already, they fact that people dont know - or even that they contest the issue is .. words fail me - the world is not what you see on TV, but that is the only reality that most know.
Junk Science Goes Belly-Up
"The incredible Gallo incident will be a scar on the history of science. "—Don Francis
"Gallo was certainly committing open and blatant scientific fraud. "—Joseph Sonnabend
The journalists reporting this event didn't notice the telltale signs that there was something fishy about the occasion. An obvious anomaly was that the announcement was made prior to publication of the articles presenting the evidence. A firm rule of scientific publication bans this practice.
It hobbles the critical reception because scientists cannot comment on research that they haven't seen. Further, prepublication celebrity suborns scientists to see in the articles what the media have acclaimed. In this case the priming was unusually strong. By designating Gallo's findings the shining path to victory over AIDS, Secretary Heckler in effect laid down the orthodoxy governing AIDS research funding. But this in turn set limits to critical opinion. As it happened, there were quite a few scientists who gave Gallo's claims little credence. But their voices were not heard because journalists didn't search for critical comment; and in a very short time the orthodoxy was so entrenched that critical views seemed aberrant, even "loony".
Originally posted by Greensage
Over the course of nearly a decade is what brought us to Africa and the development of the Drugs!
As for straights, well it was inevitable that they too would be hit, but far differently, why? Well, let us say coc aine, ICE, synthetics, and heroin; all the fabulous things that suppresses the immune system and causes a positive reading on a supposed 'precursor'.
by the way, I hate your signature!
Originally posted by earthdude
I was told by a girlfriend who worked at the San Diego zoo that half of the monkeys in captivity around the world had HIV. They got it from monkeys used in AIDS research that were later introduced to the zoo populations. Zoo workers were very cautious to not be bitten by monkeys. I can't find any info to back this up so it will go into the conspiracy theory pile.
Related article:
www.sciencedaily.com...
Health Education AIDS Liaison, Toronto
GALLO INVESTIGATED
This massive inquiry by investigators for Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) was buried when chairmanship of the U.S. Congress House subcommittee that oversees the National Institute of Health (NIH) went from Democrat to Republican control in early 1995. According to the draft report of this three-year investigation by Dingell's staff there was a "continuing coverup" by successive U.S. administrations of scientific misconduct ("fraud") by Gallo and other American scientists in the "discovery" of the "AIDS virus" and the invention of the "AIDS test". The bottom line is Gallo admits he had not isolated HTLV IIIb (HIV) the "probable cause of AIDS" at the time he conducted his seminal experiments.
Please quote scientific studies. Not blog posts from virusmyth.com.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Either get to the topic or stay off the thread.
You sure are desperate to silence me, why is that?
1f.) Relevant Content: You will not post messages that are clearly outside of the stated topic of any forums nor disrupt a forum by deliberately posting repeated irrelevant messages or copies of identical messages (also known as "flooding").
Source: The University of California at San Diego’s Online Resource for Instruction in Responsible Conduct of Research: Research Misconduct (rcr.ucsd.edu...)
Subsequent reports suggested that recordkeeping in the Gallo laboratory was poor. By 1991, a preliminary report from the Office of Scientific Integrity (OSI) noted evidence of misconduct by Gallo, but a final report essentially held him responsible only for inadequate oversight of work done under his leadership. By the end of 1992, the newly formed Office of Research Integrity (ORI) found Gallo to be guilty of research misconduct. In late 1993, the ORI dropped the allegations against Gallo and Popovic because, based on "new standards," the evidence was insufficient to prove their case. This highly publicized case brings into question a number of issues including recordkeeping in research and the process of handling allegations of research misconduct.
I'm not trying to silence you. Just stating that you are off topic.
Originally posted by earthdude
I was told by a girlfriend who worked at the San Diego zoo that half of the monkeys in captivity around the world had HIV. They got it from monkeys used in AIDS research that were later introduced to the zoo populations. Zoo workers were very cautious to not be bitten by monkeys. I can't find any info to back this up so it will go into the conspiracy theory pile.
Related article:
www.sciencedaily.com...
Originally posted by Danbones
In support of what JPZ is saying:
show me one aids test that actually tests for the virus.
The viral load test is a quantitative measurement of HIV nucleic acid (RNA)
Viral isolation through viral culture, nucleic acid tests to detect viral RNA, and tests to detect p24 antigen can be used to demonstrate virus or viral components in blood, thereby verifying infection.