posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 09:31 PM
This is no way is to upset, or offend any members thoughts about the subjects below. This is more about getting people to discuss a subject that is
near and dear to the hearts or believers and non believers.
Sometimes I read threads or speak to people that have a religion or don't, and they never really have an issue towards each other, its usually
because they have issue with the bible, or a particular group of people in a particular religion.
What if we can choose certain pieces that are most discussed or unbelievable to people who choose not to have a religion, and discuss why some
followed based on the same subject.
What if Mr.X became an atheist because of the story of creation? Not the story as a whole, but his interpretation of it. What if the same story that
turned Mr.X away is the exact story that got Ms.Y to get into religion in the first place? But her interpretation was different?
What if this can be discussed in a manner of respect, compassion for others, and non-judgment? What if you could just see why this person believes or
not, by listening to their side without prejudice towards their religion and more on their point of view?
I for one have lots of religious people in my family, and we have recently started a dialogue without the yelling and name calling, and started
listening to why. Now I have a closer relationship with them, because we see each other as people and not religions.
We decided that we would discuss our views in a respectful manner, and believe that what we have to offer in our defense cannot be swayed by anyone,
but can be discussed in order to come to the conclusion that though we may not agree we understand.
Our basic nature would be to seek out what we are, where were from, and where we are possibly to go. I personally have chosen to stay neutral, based
on my lack of true knowledge, the knowledge that many of us are not aware of, but can be hidden or destroyed. I cannot make a claim, without all the
I know that this can be discussed. I know that this is a touchy subject, and I know that people are afraid, but, what would happen if we decided to
get to know our personal thoughts about the subject we care for. I don't mean the quoting of a scriptures, because those words are not your own, I
mean a scripture, and then what YOU think of it.
We are all diverse in opinions and faiths, also for the atheists and agnostics. I would like to take people out of their zone of defend against the
non believers, and more about finding out what got you there in the first place.
Here is a small story on how and why I decided to start this thread.
When I was young I was baptized Catholic, raised Pentecostal, moved around a lot, and ended up in a Baptist church. I was confused to say the least. I
felt more comfortable in a Catholic church. I had a very rough childhood, and thought that religion was my way to a good place whether or not my
journey was not as good.
But as I got older I started noticing that those that also went to church never really thought about helping me, or consoling me the way that I
thought they would. Still I didn't turn away. I kept my faith, and though sometimes homeless as a teen, I went to church. I began to notice that
though I was in need, that those who knew me, and were religious weren't really following the ways of the church.
They still beat their kids and got away with it, it just seemed to not fit. They still cursed, lied, drank, did drugs, and still had pretty decent
lives, and while I suffered I went to church, and always thought that it was still going to be o k, because G-d was on my side.
I decided to leave religion alone when I was around 16, and never went back, but still my spirituality remained. I realized that I didn't need a
church or church members in order to lift myself up, and do what was right. Years have passed and though I still will not go to church, I am open
minded and loving, to all those who have beliefs of their own. My path may have not been yours, but that doesn't make me any less of a spiritual
person as it does you.
My life, my family, my path, my home, is no less important because my faith is not yours. I have no right to judge you as you have no right to judge
me, as long as you take your path honestly and openly, no one can take your beliefs away from you.
Now if there is some reason that some one can bring something to your attention and you chose to look further into it, its not a bad thing. Its about
knowledge, its about bettering yourself and others around you. No one can take your faith from you. No one can take your belief in either a church a
G-d, or anyone else for that matter away from you, it has to be given away by choice.
So why cant we give ourselves a chance to have an open discussion in a place that is known for some of the greatest mind in conspiracy, and make
denying ignorance, and having understanding both be hand and hand?
Thank you for your time.
Peace to you...