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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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this building forth on traditions, misconceptions and wrong translations,
and the missing understanding of parables and symbols,
is exactly why there is a 'bad' side in the world,
a side of fear and partly blindness, which is not bad
but can act evil for protection.

Jerusalem shall stand up, and those people will be
condemned by being actually that what they were promised to be.
So they can fullfill the prophesies of the lamb.

False teachers are those that speak division.
"I am one, my father speaks through me,
we are one", is the message of christ.

The seal of the beast takes the places of where gods
seals should be.

****On the head for intentions/faith, on the hand for works****

The son (christ = all) sits on the right side,
the right side knows what the left hand is doing,
this is because the way to become the right hand,
is by regretting being the left side first.
There is no good/truth where the lie was not admitted first.

"I am one", if you speak love and mercy,
you speak from a Truth that is One, God.


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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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why do i write this ?

because when fear becomes high, and incapacity becomes strong,
we are all the same, and this can break someones heart a while to further keep love.
IF you, based on misconceptions, take the drug of fear while
forgetting the law of one God, Life(the goal) that is in All, those fears will
drive you to the things you condemn.

It is the lost sheep that restrains himself while in preparation that will see in time
what is the truth (behind duality.)


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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
False teachers are those that speak division.
I am one, my father speaks through me,
we are one, is the message of christ.



There is a clear division
between that which is and that which is not
between life and death
between good and evil
between what is God and what is not-God

The division is clear, unmistakeable, and shown to us by God.

Anyone who tries to lead us towards not-God is a false teacher.
Eroding the division between good and evil makes you a promoter of evil



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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How can i lead you to a false god,
if i speak from a god that is one,
and will protect you in the given possibilities even when you divide him up ?
These words are part of a discussion you opened,
but mercy is that what will protect you.


There is no way to avoid our cross of Life,
but there is a way to protect our ways,
mercy and understanding (forgiveness) of what is One.


[edit on 7-8-2010 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
How can i lead you to a false god,

Because you are denying the God who separates himself from evil.
That is a false god.
And you know that is not the God we are teaching.
You are doing this consciously and deliberately.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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God can not be seperated of evil,
because in god there is no evil.

God DOES NOT see evil here.
the devil accuses, but is not evil.
Evil is the choice to ignore,
and for god that is the right he gives to you.
That choice can not take away the pain,
that is eternally remembered but forgotten back,
in God.
Because God can not change.

God looks contradicting (dual) but is not. He is One, All.

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
God can not be seperated of evil,
because in god there is no evil.



There is no evil in God BECAUSE God separates himself from evil.
That is why he separates himself from you.

I take it as a great compliment that the source of evil is so interested in fighting what I'm doing.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:52 AM
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Im not fighting you,
im fighting myself still, through you.

I wish you could see through my still growing eyes of a child,
and see the view i see, cleared almost of the evil we , all of us, saw.

I wish to prepare you, but i have to let go of my fight to do so,
because it is in your best interest.

God can not be seperated of evil,
or evil will enslave God, meaning,
in god there is no evil, only choice,
and God has to be all or he is a slave
and becomes the accuser, that which he
can not be, except through you.
His paradox. Duality.


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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
Im not fighting you,
im fighting myself still, through you.



You are disagreeing with me, and the fact that you are disagreeing with me is what proves that division exists.
If there was no such thing as division, we would have the same opinion, wouldn't we?

If you genuinely believe there is no division, you will recognise that there is no difference between your view and mine, and you will fall silent.

If you continue the argument, that continuation proves that you are wrong.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
Im not fighting you,
im fighting myself still, through you.



You promote death, by denying the distinction from Life.
You promote evil, by denying the distinction from Good.
You promote non-being, by denying the distinction from Being.
You promote non-God, by denying the distinction from God.



[edit on 7-8-2010 by DISRAELI]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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yes, you are right in your perspective,
thats why i cant shut up yet, because to shut up,
i have to find the strength to let you think wrong,
meaning im still the accuser, that what we all are
before we become free.

But there is a difference between judgement
and facts. Gods inversion is divided, even when it is one,
and seeing this is not being divided, it is seeing your oneness,
because i know there is no blame in what you preach.

God can see clearly what is a lie, without
not being the source of the allowance of that lie,
he is the source, even of division.
There is a difference between responsibility and guilt,
and thats why god has no guilt but still takes the blame.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds


You promote death, by denying the distinction from Life.
You promote evil, by denying the distinction from Good.
You promote non-being, by denying the distinction from Being.
You promote non-God, by denying the distinction from God.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:09 PM
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Where do i promote death ?
I try to explain death, which is another thing.
Clearly god can forgive himself of allowing death ?
Even when he promotes oneness , Love as his highest command.

Its not because i say there is no evil in god,
that pain does not exist, and where there is pain,
there is a source, and we are all sources of the pain given,
thats why we have to have mercy, because we create pain
even aginst our own will.

I speak love, but i understand you can not see yet what i speak.
If i would be complete, i would indeed stop talking now,
because you open a discussion but would rather let me be silent,
and i know that wish.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds

Where do i promote death ?
I try to explain death, which is another thing.



You promote death by denying that there is a distinction between Life and death.
You promote death by fighting against the separation from death.
You are a promoter of death

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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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Death is a moment in eternal life. But nobody has the right to control that moment.
There is a place where even God chooses not to control a part of Himself.
This place, his paradox. The pit that will not be remembered.
During the years of my life i have fighted against those who took control of those moments, and i did where i could, the only place where i received a bit of capacity, in my mind. But I speak like i do to open minds to a deeper truth, which will always be attacked because of the seriousness of those words.
I will try now to let you be. my post related to you topic is the first one i wrote here in this discussion. take care.

Both elijah and jesus were symbols of all humanity,
and when they conquered death, we will too, if we live
in the same heart as them.
(even when elijas deeds were incomplete before he completed)


[edit on 7-8-2010 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds

Death is a moment in eternal life. But nobody has the right to control that moment.
There is a place where even God chooses not to control a part of Himself.


In Biblical terms, this is nonsense.
The Biblical God has
a) promised eternal life, and
b) promised that there would be "no more death".
That is the distinction between them.

I hope to speak for Life.
Others can choose to speak for death.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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you react not on what i write, but you eact on what you think i write.

i did not say, death will not be removed, it will be removed.
I promote life, by preparation, preparation means
open the mind to doubts so facts can come in.

where there is no preparation there is surprise,
thats i the knowledge of all time.
Nobody can see what he did not prepare in doubts.
I write all this because i care, not to promote death

why would i want to promote death ? I love life, even after all the tears i shed.
i want people to see love, not death.
bye for now.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds

i did not say, death will not be removed, it will be removed.
I promote life, by preparation, preparation means
open the mind to doubts so facts can come in.



You promote death by denying there is a distinction between Life and death.
If you deny all distinctions, then you deny the distinction between life and death.

If you discourage people from wanting to separate, you stop them separating themselves from death.
So you promote death.
Stop doing it.
If you want to promote non-Biblical teaching, this is not the place for it.



posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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stop assuming what i write, and ask questions to know what im writing.
you never question god ? i never did anything else, so i avoid to
test god the day i have to choose between 2 choices i never questioned first.
There is a difference between questioning god and testing god.

I make a division between a human and god, but salvation makes
that human back one with god. There is a WAY and a GOAL.
a son and a father that lives through his 'avators', sons.
There is no father without the way first. In god there is both division
as oneness, but still there is no division, because every deed here
is a planned deed that allready happened. It is the Alpha of God,God does not exist in a place where this didnt allready happen. Because he is All.
I dont see questions until now, so really time to let your topic in peace.



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posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds

So if u dont ask questions i leave your topic now for real.

Does this last comment mean that you will stop arguing, but only if I allow you to have the last word?
There is no way that I am going to let you have the last word on my own thread.

I repeat;
God separates himself from not-God.
As Life, he separates himself from death.
As Being, he separates himself from not-being.
As Good, he separates himself from evil.

And the Biblical God calls those who believe in him to choose the first rather than the second.
That is why there must be a division.




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