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Guest on The Liberty Man Show with John Moore Today 3PM Central

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posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 09:15 PM
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People can make up their own mind based upon the facts. It's as easy as that.

Those who act like stereologist seem to have an agenda, that's why I put it on ignore long ago when I realized it was slamming my presentation without even watching it. It's entitled to it's opinion, as I am entitled to ignore it.

Facts are, things are happening, both on the planet and in space that are out of the norm, and many people with a lot of money are preparing for something. Those are the facts...like it or not.





[edit on 3-8-2010 by Austexdude]




posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Are these facts in the presentation? No. The presentation is not compiled of facts. It is a compilation of purposeful misrepresentations.

When viewing any Lucus presentation take the time to ask yourself, "Is this correct?" You'd be surprised how little of the presentation is correct.

A good example of a misrepresentation is for Lucus to state that I have not seen his presentation. I have not seen all of it. To say I have not seen his presentation is a blatant lie and he knows it. Expect that to be typical of the presentations.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 10:20 PM
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More information about what is wrong and often severely wrong with the Lucus presentation can be found at this thread:

What's wrong with the Lucus presentation

Take a gander over there and let's avoid spamming multiple threads.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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well, I also have this theory why TPTB don't want people to know about things going on and it has to do with the Anunnaki and the aftermath of this cataclysm. All the info can be read through these sites:

www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk... - sumerian translations

www.etana.org... -Akkadian translations

It has to do with power and kingship. I still need more reading and further proof though.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Lucus is not truthful in his presentations. He purposely misrepresents nearly everything in his presentations to fit his preconceived agenda. It's sad, but obvious.

For a simple example listen to the first video around 2:40 and tell me whether or not Lucus suggests that the Russian ICBM was launched over Norway. Then see if he suggests that Obama was in Norway at the time.


He sticks to solid facts, and leaves us to draw the logical overwhelming conclusions ourselves. And we do think for ourselves, something you just can't get handle on


His site is one of the most well researched, well presented out there, and your disbelief isn't proof of anything, nor does it topple mountains of information.

Its your opinion only, and made by ignoring anything that doesnt fit into your narrow veiwpoint.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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You claim he sticks to solid facts. That's a laughable claim.

Please explain how his comments on IRAS are solid facts.

His site is a collection of poorly research material that is only reliable in one manner - misrepresentation.

The problem is that you read this material with a closed mind. You never question any of the balderdash.

Can you support his claims about IRAS?

I've posted very simple and direct challenges and everyone has failed to even try. Why is that? Is it because you know that it is a blatant misrepresentation?



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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So you assume that there will be a cataclysm.

That must be why you support the likes of Lucus who has purposely misrepresented information in an attempt to support his failed agenda.

Can you find anything at all in the dates that supports the 3600 year cycle? I for one see nothing about a cycle or a cataclysm in any of the dates. Lucus forced it by fudging, and altering dates.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:24 PM
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That's great dragnet53. You have posted a link to the Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature . This is a great place for people to see that these claims of Nibiru by Sitchin and others are fakes. Use this resource along with
Sitchin is Wrong
to learn why the claims of Sitchin, Lieder, Lucus, and others are misrepresentations and outright falsehoods in most cases.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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I just checked over his site with impressive research of past articles, dates, names and specifics of events that should more than raise concern, including moving the cia and head of miltary command to colorado. Ancients, pictorgraphs, numerous sources, and you think that NASA is accurate on IRAS. I don't believe NASA, for many reasons including their mars redoctored photos, OK. Truly enough said on that for me. You sift through tons information and pick over something. But you are not even going to get me into this debate, its irrelevant to me. His site is incredibly informative, you should open your mind up.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:38 PM
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Another post with no content.

1. His claims of IRAS are false
2. His claims of the Norway spiral are false
3. His claims of the petroglyphs are false
4. His claims of the destruction of civilizations are false

That's the first 15 minutes of the presentation.

I tossed out a simple decidable issue and you passed on the issue just like Lucus did. He ran away and hid his head in the sand.

His site is a large collection of misrepresentations at best. It is poorly researched.

You need to go in their and actually look at the material instead of going in their with your mind closed to the notion of fact checking. You're a very close minded person and it shows in every post.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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There is a claim that Lucus posts specific dates. That is what Unity_99 would like us to believe. Where did the time line dates come from? I can't find hardly a date that matches his claims. Why is that? Why are the dates all rearranged to Lucus' agenda of disinformation? It's fairly easy to check up dates. Not all scholars agree on dates. Why are the dates chosen by Lucus not any of the dates determined by scholars? Clearly, Lucus is like Sitchin. Sitchin is a fraud.



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 01:08 AM
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How is sitchin wrong? He also looked at Babylonian and Akkadian tablets as well for his info. Did you know also it wasn't until Babylon that they called the Anunna the Anunnaki? They also mentioned 9 planets as well. You just don't like the ancient astronaut theory.

I believe sitchin is 90% right and 10% he has an agenda of his own. My point is that it has to do with Ziusudra(Noah).



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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Very strange claims dragnet53. In this post you make reference to online translations of ancient texts.
Dragnet53 translation reference

Go ahead, look at the material you referenced and look up Nibiru. See if the use of the word in any way matches the claims of Sitchin. See that the translations claimed by Sitchin are WRONG. Do it. If you think Sitchin is right and then use the material you linked to try and support his claims. Problem is that if you had actually looked at the material you would see that Sitchin's translations are poppycock.


They also mentioned 9 planets as well.

Show me where the ancients knew about anything other than the naked eye planets. Show me one instance where they knew about Uranus or Neptune.

The claims of Sitchin are as wrong as the claims of John Moore.

Go ahead, believe in Sitchin's claims. Keep the blinders on and avoid testing his ideas. If you ever take the time you'll learn that there are many reasons that Sitchin fails:
1. Fails on translations - use the link you supplied
2. Fails on astronomy - Nibiru not detected
3. Fails on physics - The orbital mechanics fail

I'm sure that this is a short list of reasons for the failure. Open your mind and learn why Sitchin is wrong.



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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I always wonder was life better when Sumeria was created by the Anunnaki? You wouldn't have to worry about people like stereo.




posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Again you rely on a failed notion of the world. You should take the time to take a basic class in the origins of Sumer, their language, and culture.

And this makes just another in a long list of posts in which you have nothing to add to the thread. No surprise there.



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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The thing I find to be the best aspect and benefit of people like stereo with their 18 posts/day, is exposure. What it fails to understand is that everytime it replies with the malarkey it does, it bumps the thread to the top, thus allowing more people to see it, and right through it's BS.

Thanks for the bumps stereo...I don't know or care what you're saying, but is sure helps keep the thread on top!


Keep up the good work!

Thanks



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 11:06 AM
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Another pointless and absurd claim.

What everyone can see is that the material being claimed by Lucus is being debunked and Lucus is unable to defend his misrepresentations and falsehoods. This thread began as an advertisement for Lucus by Lucus. I'm not certain that falls within the guidelines of ATS, but making money by advertising in the forum without buying ads seems like an unethical stance. That would be in character with the material being presented.



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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No its about a live streaming show. That I missed. And wished I hadn't. By Lucas of course. You don't have the right to determine who shares things, you're not my boss or dictator and I already realize from your posts how limited your perception is, and have encouraged and will continue to encourage you do some inner searches.



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Again, you fail to post anything relevant to the Lucus presentations.

I encourage you to learn to question what is being presented and to do even an iota of research and to learn and educate yourself about these issues. Don't take the hook, line, and sinker. Learn to question and evaluate.

You've made it clear in your posts that you do not wish to do research and you do not want to use a source better than gossip, but when you start to research and to learn and be wary of false claims such as those made repeatedly by Moore and Lucus then you'll be enriched by the experience. It takes you out of the box and opens the mind.



posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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Today at 3PM Central I will be on the The Intel Hub Radio Show
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