Florida church's 'Burn a Koran Day' brings Islamist threats, page 3
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reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:13 PM by danielhanson420
reply to post by ghaleon12



its the intent behind the action not he action it's self that some will find offensive. im not muslim but im offended that anyone would go so far just to provoke another group when it has no benifit to anbody involved. so much for turn the other cheek eh!


reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:17 PM by bigbert81
reply to post by tothetenthpower




considering there are more Muslims that Christians in the world as well.



(Sizes shown are approximate estimates, and are here mainly for the purpose of ordering the groups, not providing a definitive number. This list is sociological/statistical in perspective.)

1. Christianity: 2.1 billion
2. Islam: 1.5 billion
3. Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
4. Hinduism: 900 million
5. Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
6. Buddhism: 376 million

SRC: www.adherents.com...

And although I do agree with what you are trying to say, I believe 'buddhasystem' was referring to Islam. But you are certainly correct, as neither can be considered a 'fad'.



reply to post by buddhasystem




I think we'd better stay with what we had before that new fad, Islam



fad – a temporary popular notion, artistic activity, fashion, or food that is usually followed by a large group of people for a short time.

SRC: www.usa-people-search.com...

Don't think you can really call it a 'fad'.

--BTW, I LOVE your avatar. Wouldn't mind a bit more info about it in a U2U.






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reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:57 PM by ~Lucidity
reply to post by bigbert81


Different numbers
here... Christians 2.09M and Muslims 1.57M.

here
Christians 1.8M and Muslims 1.5M.

I don't really care lol...just saying....


reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 12:58 PM by TruthSeeker8300
People bash Christianity, Christians and the Holy Bible all the time through different ways. You may have Christians protesting at a concert or something else, but not making death threats and never murdering anyone that made fun of Jesus Christ or Christianity at all. Some of you behave as if this is an isolated incident and it's not. Geert Wilders has plenty of death threats on him and let us never forget the murder of Theo Van Gogh in 2004.

Threats against Christians that are believed to say something blasphemous of Islam are nothing new. This goes on in Indonesia, Pakistan and other places. It is a fact that if anyone, Muslim included, insults Muhammed, whom they claim is the last prophet of God, that the person is to be put to death. That is a fact. The crime for apostasy is also death. Christians are persecuted in Pakistan all the time. But not Muhammed only, but any of the prophets, punishment is the consequence.

I will say I don't agree with the burning of the Qu'ran, as that does nothing to spread the gospel or be a witness. While it is their Constitutional right as a U.S citizen to burn the Qu'ran or any other religious material, we Christians are to be children of the true King and not of any country. Our citizenship is not with this world but with the kingdom of God.

Ultimately, every Christian is to give allegiance to God alone, not any man, flag or any thing else. To any Muslim that may read this, it is evident through my research that your God is the same god of all on what Christ calls the broad path. The Islamic flags have a crescent moon & star because it goes back to the worship of the heavens. The world has many gods and goddesses, and they are all ultimately the same entity.

Anyone that does violence in the name of God, and it was not specifically ordered by Him, are not following true religion and are risking eternal seperation from God.


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reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:15 PM by bigbert81
reply to post by ~Lucidity



Perhaps you should put my post into context. I was simply correcting the post I was replying to by demonstrating that there are more Christians than Muslims.


reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:19 PM by ~Lucidity
reply to post by bigbert81


And I was merely saying that the numbers vary. No context issue here.

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reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:19 PM by Shark VA84
reply to post by Stormdancer777



"We are playing the fool"

Could not have summed it up better myself.

If people would just let these idiots do their thing without anyone giving them so much as a second thought, it would just be a gathering of ignorant, racist and misguided "Christians" burning paper.

The fact that we take it as some sort of representation of our nation, Christians or even humanity, well that's when their little stunt gains the ability to offend or incite violence.

I seem to remember other occasions in which the burning of books was used as a rallying point...the Third Reich comes to mind.


reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 01:37 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Shark VA84



Unknowingly this and other forums along with the news media creates animosity, and divisiveness.

We need to try and be voices of reason,

And I have decided to begin with myself,

the forum plays a role in maintaining this global divisiveness, christian against Muslim, Muslim against Christian, atheist against Deist, republicans against democrats, the world against America, everyone against the Jews.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one, Watch out that no one deceives you, examine your motives are they to garner truth or do you harbor animosity?
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom
"Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

There is only one law,

Love.



reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 03:03 PM by Valdestine
reply to post by bigbert81



When counting the number of them, you might want to take into account their laws on apostates. I'm sure a sizable number of those "muslims" only say so they arent killed or otherwise abused.

Countires like Saudi Arabia say their population is 100% muslim, an obvious misrepresentation of facts


reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 03:06 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Republican08



I see what your saying. However I doubt that if Jesus did exist, he was burning literature of pagans or others with the 12 apostles all over the Middle East.

When I say fake Christians, I mean those who just use God as an excuse to act like selfish little children who have no regard for other people's beliefs and or values.

It's infuriating really. Give all the "good" christians (which I really hope I don't have to explain to anybody) a bad name.

Unfortunate that it's these types who make the news all the time instead of the ones actually doing good in the world.

~Keeper


reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 03:11 PM by Shark VA84
reply to post by gimme_some_truth



Not to be nit-picky, but I think the poster was implying that the Beatles were better than muslims, or greater than muslims in some way. Not that they WERE practicing Islam.
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