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Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by tothetenthpower
No worries, Tenth. I know you too good to know where you're coming from. Your posts were not what I had in mind. There have been several threads on this and the comments were very one sided so I was addressing them across board. You're fine.
I'm keen to know how you manage to tie you own shoe laces in the morning.
I don't. My low IQ forces me to stick to velcro.
And I'm sorry my factual and even sides post had to bring out such a snide remark from you.
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by ~Lucidity
I haven't seen many if anyone in all the threads about this church saying this church doesn't have the right to burn all the Korans they want. But with freedom and the exercising thereof comes great responsibility...and consequences.
Completely agreed. That is why I framed that as a 'preemptive rebuttal' because I figured someone would eventually bring up the 'rights' issue.
This is all you picked out of my lengthy reply to you to address? A relative non-issue where I was simply agreeing? Wow. Nothing about the pack of lies with the "Mosque at Ground Zero" fiasco you seemingly defend? Interesting.
This is a new story in that the church in Florida has gotten the reaction they wanted.
I can't speak for everyone, but I have not failed to notice why they are doing this. In fact, it is clearly stated in the first paragraph of the article linked to in the OP.
Yes, their doing this was a reaction in itself to the Islamic center most recently, but also to 9/11 and the fear that was beaten into them about Muslims and Islam in general ever since.
If you want to get into a debate about cause and effect and action and reaction, we can take it back to why we think 9/11 even happened. Many people aren't aware that it wasn't a random act of hate and violence.
There was a reason. So the ball is back in whose court?
This church is in Florida, not in NYC. It is up to the community in NYC to determine whether they want the Islamic center there or not.
The 9/11/2011 opening date or groundbreaking date is not true. It's a falsehood invented and propagated by the usual suspects.
It sounds as if you want to dismiss any blame on others and just say it was us who provoked them? Before I expand, please clarify what you're getting at.
"Sunday’s rally comes less than two weeks after a New York community board voted 29 to 1 in favor of plans to build a mosque and Islam center near the 9/11 site.
The center, which will be known as the Cordoba House, is being marketed by project organizers as a world-class facility that promotes tolerance and reflects the rich diversity of New York City."
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Gee, nobody saw that one coming..
And watch this, the group is going to blame the "violence of Islam" for the the threads, instead of their own dumb asses for inciting violence with this ridiculous little "event" they are planning.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Danbones
I have seen conflicting number on the vote...24-11 with two abstaining and then another one. But the point remains, it's their community. NYC is used to diversity and coexisting with people not exactly like them. It's what makes that city such an interesting place.
Rich Sanchez interview with the preacher of the church.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Gee, nobody saw that one coming..
And watch this, the group is going to blame the "violence of Islam" for the the threads, instead of their own dumb asses for inciting violence with this ridiculous little "event" they are planning.
I disagree with their event and all, but...
At some point, someone needs to draw a line in the sand. From where I'm sitting, Islam doesn't appear to be a religion of peace. I met some really nice (and educated) Muslims, so there are plenty of people to enjoy talking to and working with, but I'm against Islamization of any nation, including the US.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
In that case you should be against any religious group attempting to make society follow their rules and norms.
You can't just pick and choose with religions are "bad" ones and which ones are "good" ones.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
In that case you should be against any religious group attempting to make society follow their rules and norms.
You can't just pick and choose with religions are "bad" ones and which ones are "good" ones.
You bet I can.
For that matter, I dislike Christian nut cases.
What I'm trying to say is we need a cementing ideology in this society, to keep it whole. Not being overly religious myself, I think we'd better stay with what we had before that new fad, Islam. Just being pragmatic here.
Originally posted by ghaleon12
I never understood the offense people have when things are burned. Is setting them out in the rain also offensive? And isn't it idolatry to be offended? These radical Muslims need to work on not being idolaters.