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The devastating effects of Corexit on the human body

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posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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I really want to thank the OP for this thread. People have GOT to educate themselves on Corexit. This stuff is deadly over a long term and Rikki Ott from Alaska is speaking out a lot in Louisiana right now. As veteran of the Exxon Valdez cleanup she know very well what Corexit can do to humans in the long term. Chronic illness is a best case scenario, and she is still alive and suffering the effects where most of her compatriots are already dead. Here is a vid from a doctoral researcher living on the gulf coast right now:

www.youtube.com...#!

here's a vid from a military aerial support team (910th?) of aerial spray operations during the day:

usahitman.com...

and another report from the EPA with a vid from Alex Jones, but I'm more interested in the EPA part of this:

usahitman.com...




posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 09:41 PM
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part of the point that's being made by a chorus of scientists is that we don't know things like the half life of Corexit. The EPA as been very slow on picking up the ball on this and the problem is now the Gulf Coast is the laboratory for finding that out and the feds are keeping people, including scientists who WANT to study this away.

Part of the reason I'm posting like a madman on this is that I've had a 10-15 year occasional exposure to things like benzine through my construction years and I was diagnosed with a late onset of MS about six years ago. In fact, they first wrote on my report that I might have hyterical blindness at that time because I was older than the average MS sufferer and a male (women get it most). So I want to warn people not to play games with stuff like benzine or Corexit, because you might pay the price a decade down the road and then it's too late.

And thanks much for the compliment Rufus, BTW. Just doing my job
I wouldn't have been able to today if you hadn't posted your excellent piece!



posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by ghostpigeon
I really want to thank the OP for this thread. People have GOT to educate themselves on Corexit. This stuff is deadly over a long term and Rikki Ott from Alaska is speaking out a lot in Louisiana right now. As veteran of the Exxon Valdez cleanup she know very well what Corexit can do to humans in the long term. Chronic illness is a best case scenario, and she is still alive and suffering the effects where most of her compatriots are already dead. Here is a vid from a doctoral researcher living on the gulf coast right now:

www.youtube.com...#!

here's a vid from a military aerial support team (910th?) of aerial spray operations during the day:

usahitman.com...

and another report from the EPA with a vid from Alex Jones, but I'm more interested in the EPA part of this:

usahitman.com...



Hey thx ghostpigeon, thanks for your great posts as well.

A lot of workers from Exxon Valdez are dead already, but the current spill has unprecedented levels of corexit so IMO can only be more toxic...



posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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reply to post by rufusthestuntbum
 


I'm signing off for a while to get some work done Rufus. Again, great thread and I'll check back later on.



posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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I'm going to bed too myself, it's getting late over here, nearly 4am, good work mr pigeon, sorry to hear of your first hand suffering of similar chemicals it really is a disgrace!



posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 11:45 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 03:34 AM
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www.ted.com...

that may be why there isnt enough oil to skim. corexit. breaks apart the oil and causes it to sink. seems like one of those 'out of sight, out of mind' situations. not sure about all the information in the video, but she makes quite a clear point.

im not sure if im adding the link right, its my first post. if all else fails, theres always copy & paste



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 04:09 AM
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my bad, thought i posted that in a different thread



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 04:50 AM
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COREXIT's toxicity... internal bleeding? kidney, liver infection? harmful to red blood cells??... Now you're telling us this stuff will eventually flow into our drinking water and poison our marine life?? *devastated*

Oh but since this is written down on paper it's okay...
"The manufacturer's safety data sheet states "No toxicity studies have been conducted on this product," and later concludes "The potential human hazard is: Low."- [www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com...]

There are many safer alternatives than corexit, yet BP insists this is the way to go.
"On May 20, 2010, the EPA ordered BP to look for less toxic alternatives to Corexit, and later ordered BP to stop spraying dispersants, but BP responded that it thought that Corexit was the best alternative and continued to spray it"-[www.scientificamerican.com...]



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 06:06 AM
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Great thread & TY!


July 28th - it was sprayed very heavily in the south, either chemtrails/corexit, the next early a.m., it was still in the air. Immediate onset of flu symptoms, fatigue, nausea, you name it.

A member of Ben Fulford's forum pointed me here:
sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info...

www.curezone.com...

blog.imva.info...

I utilized the 3:3 method of the first link and was totally detoxed by the next day. FYI for others probably suffering or for future reference.

Another poster pointed me to orgonite that may help the air/water in the south. Still researching there.

Hopefully all of the articles will make it to many individuals to help them discern. Thank you, Peace & God Bless.



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 07:25 AM
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There is no question that the government has not and is not in the role of protecting us from any danger. From untested chemicals to criminal illegals crashing our borders -it appears quite the opposite - that our own goverment at best is either so mismanaged and dystfunctional - or worse -disdainful and hateful towards its own citizens -that we cannot take anything for granted. Appreciate the post. Unfortunately we won't know how dangerous this chemical is until people get sick and die in droves.



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by rufusthestuntbum
reply to post by justadood
 


obviously, yes, it does evaporate, but at 147c which is very unlikely to occur naturally in the GoM.

Everything evaporates at one or another temperature

The recorded highest temperature on earth is around 58c, but as the boiling point of water is 100c and this obviously evaporates to produce rain, then who knows?

[edit on 31-7-2010 by rufusthestuntbum]


Looks like we need a confusion alert. People are confusing evaporation with boiling. Both are a phase change from liquid to gas. Both occur when energy, usually in the form of heat, is added to a substance. Heat is just the movement of molecules or atoms. When you get enough heat the energy is enough to raise the vapor pressure and cause a molecule to break loose as a vapor. The difference between boiling and evaporation is that evaporation occurs at the surface of the substance while boiling occurs throughout. If you set a pan of water on the unlit stove, the water will eventually disappear through evaporation, but you don't see anything. Now turn the heat on. When the water reaches 100 degrees C (more or less depending on altitude and ambient atmospheric pressure) it will boil and you will see bubbles of water vapor rising from throughout the pot of water.



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 08:17 AM
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The info i've seen is that the majority of the Corexit should biodegrade in around 28 days. I don't think there's any way for it to live long enough for it to reach european shores. In fact apart from the Gulf states I would think it would have biodegraded before it reached any other american shores.

edited for rubbish typing as pointed out by etcorngods

[edit on 1-8-2010 by Chris McGee]



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Chris McGee
The info i've seen is that the majority of the Corexit should bidegrade in around 28 days. I don't think there's any way for it to live long enough for it to reach european shores. In fact apart from the Gulf states I would think it would have biodgraded before it reached any other american shores.


Do you mean Bio-degrade? What is your source for the 28 day figure? Does this mean that the OP is off base?



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by Chris McGee
The info i've seen is that the majority of the Corexit should bidegrade in around 28 days. I don't think there's any way for it to live long enough for it to reach european shores. In fact apart from the Gulf states I would think it would have biodgraded before it reached any other american shores.


Yes some sources do state that corexit is biodegradable. I think in reality that no-one knows for sure. It is interesting to note:


Nalco's own Dr. David Horsup stated in a media advisory that "additional testing" is needed in order to assess "biodegradation, bioaccumulation, carcinogenicity and effectiveness."


axisoflogic.com...



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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The 28 day figure is one i've repeatedly seen around the net and comes from a study performed by the French Institut National de L’Enviroenment Industriel et des Risque in 1994(?). Nalco actually refers to it in their statement here.

There's no doubt the stuff is toxic at the point of application but it's lifetime is relatively short before it degrades into it's constituent organic compounds. One of the reasons Corexit was chosen was that the main alternative degrades into a compound that is toxic to marine life. If the shrimpers rufus mentioned in his link were handling it bare skinned as mentioned then I wouldn't be surprised if they did get some nasty symptoms, that's why people use protective clothing when handling this stuff and why it's not recommended for use within three miles of shore.

As for the marine biologist referenced in the link who didn't feel too well after diving into a toxic mixture of crude oil, dissolved methane and Corexit, what did they really expect?



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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Of course Nalco's own website states that it is safe, in fact, in Nalco's own words:


COREXIT 9500 largely biodegraded in 28 days


Corexit largely biodegrades in 28 days. I cannot find anything statistical in regards to how much is meant be largely, this site humidcity.com... states that 78% of the mixture biodegrades within the 28 day day time frame, leaving 22%. This cites the Bellingham Herald newspaper as a source, however the article is no longer avaliable.

Obviously am not stating this as fact, as there don't seem to be any statistics of this type, but to look at this hypothetically, this 22% would amount to around 220,000 gallons.

It is that word though, largely, and one wonders just what percentage we are talking.



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 11:44 AM
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Yes, those are the same figures i've seen but information about it seems to be thin on the ground. The 78% figure came initially from the study by the French institute. I would assume the other 22% would degrade as time goes by but can't be certain of this due to the lack of solid info out there.



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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They use to say the same thing about DDT, now its banned go figure.



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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Interesting. But does that shed any light on the question of whether or not corexitt evaporates or biodegrades?

seems like evaporationg would be very bad, but breaking down into more benign parts is what it is designed to do, yes?

[edit on 1-8-2010 by justadood]






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