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SourceWatch, another black propaganda site!

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posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:31 AM

Originally posted by endisnighe
Alright, a site set up to look like wikipedia, where they STATE they are a source referencing site, is blatantly progressive.

Did you forget the title of your thread or just think no one would notice you changing course so abruptly?

Where is the "BLACK" propaganda I have been promised?

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:36 AM
reply to post by SaulGoodman

Another thing is that just because a group gives money to something like the CMDR doesn't mean they decide where the money goes.

This statement is not entirely true. Foundations do not indiscriminately grant funds to organizations and all have very specific guidelines that must be met just to be considered for a grant. Consider what the Rockefeller Foundation has to say on the matter of Applying for Rockefeller Foundation Funding:

If you would like the Rockefeller Foundation to consider funding your project—which must fit within one or more of the Rockefeller Foundation initiatives—please complete the following application.

The initiatives mentioned above can be found on this page of The Rockefeller Foundation here.

The Rockefeller Foundation focuses its resources on five related issue areas and funds a portfolio of initiatives that work across these areas, linking and interlinking, to achieve meaningful and measurable impact.

These five related issue areas are:

1.) Developing Climate Change Resilience

Our Strategy

The Rockefeller Foundation’s Developing Climate Change Resilience Initiative aims to catalyze attention, funding and action to promote resilience to climate change on several levels. We focus on three pivotal areas: Asian urban environments, African agriculture and US policy. We are creating models for action on climate change in cities—models that can be replicated and expanded in other regions. We are helping adapt African agriculture to cope with environmental changes. And we are promoting awareness and guiding funders and policymakers to support broader action on climate change resilience, nationally and internationally, to help poor and vulnerable people around the world.

2.) Strengthening Food Security:

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3.) Protecting American Workers Economic Security:

Americans face higher unemployment and fewer economic opportunities than at any point in recent history. Millions of American workers have been left economically insecure by the fraying of our social safety nets in recent decades, and these effects have only worsened as the economy has contracted in the last two years. Health care costs are often more than workers can afford, employers trim benefits, and the government no longer guarantees a safety net. Inequality and disparities have widened to historic proportions, intensifying among the working poor.

Our Strategy

The Foundation’s Protecting American Workers’ Economic Security:

Campaign for American Workers initiative, recognizes that there is danger in the growth of economic insecurity, but there is also opportunity. We have the chance to reexamine federal priorities with regard to the US social contract. Our initiative focuses on three primary strategies:

* Promoting policies and tools to increase savings and retirement security

* Fostering demonstrations that ensure more secure and portable health care coverage

* Supporting evidence-based analysis of proposed and current policies on economic security of American workers, particularly the most vulnerable and disadvantaged workers

4.) Promoting Equitable, Sustainable Transportation

Our Strategy

The Foundation's Promoting Equitable, Sustainable Transportation initiative advocates for investment in affordable, environmentally-responsible transit. This initiative supports strategies at the national and local level. At the federal level, we are:

* Funding policy analysis and research that informs a new transportation policy for America.

* Encouraging national leaders and grassroots leaders to embrace a new policy agenda.

* Promoting and coordinating philanthropic participation in transportation work.

* At the same time, we are exploring state and local policy innovations. We are: Resourcing advocacy efforts to encourage state/metro reform.

* Building the internal capacity of state departments of transportation and metro planning organizations.

* Encouraging sustainability and equity through market and consumer levers.

5.) Transforming Health Systems:

Our Strategy

New technologies and demographic, epidemiologic, and economic shifts are transforming health systems in countries around the world. There is now a window of opportunity to promote strategies that steer this transformation toward better health outcomes and financial protection through improved health systems performance and the expansion of universal health coverage in low- and middle-income countries. The Rockefeller Foundation’s Transforming Health Systems initiative employs four key funding strategies:

* Fostering health systems research and agenda setting for universal health coverage

* Enhancing professional capacity to plan and manage high-performing health systems

* Harnessing the resources of the private sector to finance and deliver health services

* Leveraging interoperable eHealth systems

This is how the Rockefeller Foundation wants their money spent. They make it clear from the get go to any person or organization asking for grants that this is how they expect the money to be spent.

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:39 AM

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

This statement is not entirely true.

Which means it is not entirely false either. See how much easier it would be not to say anything instead of spending all that time saying nothing?

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:40 AM
reply to post by c g henderson

From wikipedia-

Black propaganda is false information and material that purports to be from a source on one side of a conflict, but is actually from the opposing side. It is typically used to vilify, embarrass or misrepresent the enemy.[1] Black propaganda contrasts with grey propaganda, the source of which is not identified, and white propaganda, in which the real source is declared and usually more accurate information is given, if also slanted or distorted.

Black propaganda purports to emanate from a source other than the true source. This type of propaganda is associated with covert psychological operations.[2] Sometimes the source is concealed or credited to a false authority and spreads lies, fabrications, and deceptions. Black propaganda is the "big lie," including all types of creative deceit.[b/][3]

Ultimately, black propaganda relies on the willingness of the receiver to accept the credibility of the source. If the creators or senders of the black propaganda message do not adequately understand their intended audience, the message may be misunderstood, seem suspicious, or fail altogether.[3]

Governments will generally conduct black propaganda operations for two different reasons. First, by utilizing black propaganda a government is more likely to succeed in convincing their target audience that the information that they are seeking to influence them with is disguised, and that its motivations are not apparent. Second, there are diplomatic reasons behind the use of black propaganda. Black propaganda is necessary in order to obfuscate a government's involvement in activities that may be detrimental to its foreign policies.

A supposed impartial source for the media of the world.

Funded by the likes of Soros and the Rockefellers.

Here, let me help you.

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:46 AM
reply to post by c g henderson

Which means it is not entirely false either. See how much easier it would be not to say anything instead of spending all that time saying nothing?

It was an attempt at being civil. Civility be damned, the statement was flat out wrong, and your ignorance shines in spades with this ridiculous remark. I did not spend all that time saying nothing and effectively showed how the other poster was flat out wrong. If you had bothered to read all I posted you would have seen that and wouldn't need to be called out on your own willful ignorance.

See how much better it would have been had you said nothing at all?

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:46 AM
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Well, I highly doubt the Rockefeller Foundation is going to have on their list of endeavors.

6) The elimination of all sovereign borders.

7) The elimination of all competing banks.

8) The creation of a one world government controlled by a communist system.

9) or whatever else you want to add here

Thanks for the info JPZ.

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 04:48 AM
reply to post by endisnighe

Go to their Foundation site and look at the guidelines and read between the lines. They sure like to fund a lot that has to do with affecting U.S. policy.

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 05:10 AM
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Well from your original link I found this slight gem.

The Center for American Progress, with the support of the Rockefeller Foundation, is launching a new project called “Doing What Works” to advance smarter, more efficient government.

“It is critical for government to win back the public's trust,” says Janice Nittoli, the Foundation's director of the Campaign for American Workers initiative. “A first step is to make sure public spending works for the public.”

You can certainly find some "workers of the world unite" type rhetoric if you look around. ideas for the future of communism Survey of Americans was designed to understand attitudes and perceptions towards the economy, the state of the American Dream and social contract, as well as the role of government in helping Americans.

Aren't they so nice these progressive communists. Take our labor, keep 85% and distributing 15%.

I just love their social giving.

[edit on 7/31/2010 by endisnighe]

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 11:05 AM
reply to post by endisnighe

Well, one appears to be a gold bar.

Also, they might just be gold chocolate coins..

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Lucidity

Nice research?
Wiki coulda given him just about every answer. There are no big secrets here.

Same question to you. What article did you see that was biased.

Not one, I didn't even look at the site. I didn't feel the need. My question
is why would big money be interested in the relative small revenue a
news website generates? Especially a news website such as this.

A plausible answer to that question might persuade me...

[edit on 31-7-2010 by rival]

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 12:18 PM
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

You make a good point that the Rockefeller foundation states how they like their money spent. I didn't do enough research on that front. Thanks for pointing that out.

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 06:51 PM
reply to post by endisnighe

You're not telling the whole story.

First of all, here's the Executive Director of PRWatch's bio:

As you can see, she has a strong history of FIGHTING tyrannical power-grabs by government and industry.

Also, The Rockefeller Family Fund is lead by family who seem to be opposed to other Rockefellers' beliefs/actions:

They have support from Jay Rockefeller who holds a board-member position in the RFF and seems to be the opposite of his other family members who support Corporatism. Though he does have quite a questionable record. Perhaps they are a form of black propaganda, I cannot say.

However, I have seen no evidence that SourceWatch is questionable or black propaganda. It seems to provide quite useful information that points out corruption/disinformation of elites rather than hide or obfuscate them. It's also a wiki if you haven't noticed and provides sources which can always be checked.

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