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GOP Lawmakers Want Explanation of Draft Memo on Amnesty for Thousands

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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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GOP Lawmakers Want Explanation of Draft Memo on Amnesty for Thousands


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A group of Republican senators has written to top immigration officials in the Obama administration asking them to reveal whether large-scale plans are under way to provide a so-called non-legislative version of amnesty.
The lawmakers cite an 11-page draft document written by staff to the director of the Citizenship and Immigration Service that says they are reviewing several executive orders and other mechanisms that effectively would serve as a substitute for comprehensive immigration reforms.
The objective would be to promote “family unity, foster economic growth … and reduce the thr
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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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This is not the one thing that many in the United States would want to hear or even think about at this time frame, as it is suggesting several things that this current adminstration is known for. The first is that if they can not get something through congress, the federal government is handing it off to the agency to make the rules and regulations, thus making congress a useless part of the government. This is adhorrent and against the constitution of the United States. Another is that they are actually thinking about granting amnesty to thousands if not millions of illegale immigrants who are here already, thus bypassing the laws of the country. The final bit, and it was at the very bottom of the article, is that it shows that the federal government is out of touch with the common people, that they are worried about further errosion in the confidence of the federal government. The federal government does not even seem to realize that the confidence in it is already low, and that too much more, then the question of rioting and violence will change to when and where. The people of the country are tired, we are tired of being ran over by the federal government and the lack of equal justice on the part of the laws. We all know the immigration system is broken, and that the borders are not secure, but neither side is willing to take the unpopular and policitally inconvient stance to take the necessary actions to stop and correct such, leaving it up to the status quo. The immigration debate has been going on for years and years, and for as much as there is talk and laws, nothing every gets done. The polticians who are in office and who will be coming into office would be well served to pay attention and to take action, to do both at the same time, rather than putting the value of one over the other. A general amnesty when it was done multiple times before did not work when it was given, and has only made the problem far worse now than it should have ever gotten. The end result of this memo, if it is used to shape current and future regulations, will result in a backlash far worse than what has been seen so far. In the years since this issue started to make a main stage in politics, there has slowly been a build up of opposition, including now where armed militias are going out and patrolling the border and forcing the illeglae immigrants to return home, along with starting to shoot at the drug runners. As this continues it will esclate to far worse violence, only leading to the people who support the illegale immigrants to doing the same but only to impede the police, sherriffs and border partrol. The border is slowly starting to become a war zone and no mans land, and that is where no one wins, and both sides lose. The hispanic community right now feels that they are targeted, but at the same time, more and more reports and the statistics are coming out that the biggest percentage of illegale immigrants are hispanic and from Latin and South America. The hispanic community further complicates matters when they start waving the flag of Mexico when protesting on behalf of illegale immigrants, and are often ready to move to violence when opposed and or willing to disrepect the flag of the country. If they would stop and police their own, to include telling others not to cross illegally, and to come through the front door, then they would find that they have more support and people willing to back them than what there is now.

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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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Raging on about the immigration problem on a message board isn't going to fix anything.

And in my estimation the republican congress isn't going to fix it either.
All they are good at doing these days is trying to make the Dems look bad. Which btw, the Dems do a great job of making themselves look bad that they don't need the extra help.

Back in the 80's Reagen signed an immigration bill into law. And it didn't help any you're correct.
Passing another bill isn't going to solve the issue.

I've raged myself about how laws restricting illegal immigration are close to useless. There are too many people comming into the country that INS would need to expand 100 times to actually be able to enforce some of the laws that are already on the books.

We need to sit down and study the reasons why people come to this country. And mostly they come here because there is work for them. Where in their home countries there isn't any. They come here work and send back billions of dollars to central and south america weekly. IMO those dollars would be better off spent here in the USA than in Argentina or some other country.
The illegal workers do not pay taxes or medicaid. If they were legal they'd be paying into the system. If illegals were allowed to bring their families in legally then there would be more money spent in the local economy. Small businesses would benefit. It would be a win win for all.
But instead now we have a drain on the system because since everything is under the table illegals do not contribute to the system.

And btw. Even if we pass write bills, legislate and pass laws. There will still be illegals comming into the country.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by grey580
And btw. Even if we pass write bills, legislate and pass laws. There will still be illegals comming into the country.


Reminds me of the old saying, "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws would have guns". As a kid, it took me a while to get that saying, but when I finally it really struck home. "Following the law" is a luxury for those who are desperate. Survival and the chance of prosperity will always trump ethics.

I personally think that illegal immigration is a symptom of a disease, not the disease itself. Cure the disease, not the symptoms.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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All they have to do is enforce the laws already on the books.

Their lack of enforcement, through denying INS operating funds, and giving incentives to come here is why there is a huge problem.

Illegals would self deport or move to other states if there were some teeth to enforcement. This has already happened in AZ and Oklahoma.

Now if we could pass laws in most of the states all the Illegals would move to DC, lawmakers might finally taste their own problem.





posted on Aug, 2 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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There isn't enough money or manpower right now to enforce the laws you're correct. We'd need to get out of Iraq and the Stan so we could actually have enough money to enforce immigration laws.

Personally I think that AZ should take all their illegals and just dump them on the steps of congress. It's your problem now.




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