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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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Didn't you hear the part where he says that they are doing this because white people will be labelled racists for criticising Obama?




posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:21 PM
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there is 8x as many whites as blacks - so in a democracy guess who the nation should be listening too.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:38 PM
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Oh - just more angry blacks....???? WTF???

I am GLAD to see some Americans getting angry about the evil insanity which is running the country. People SHOULD be angry, very angry, and being active in denouncing it.

I hadn't thought of this before, but after watching the video it strikes me that a lot of the black population may well be less 'dumbed down' and politically 'alive' than the majority of whites, given that in their recent history they've had to fight so hard against the system, against apartheid, against corruption and lies and bigotry. Perhaps their long fight against oppression could be really useful in fighting this current war.

In any case, I think this video is great. I love their energy and the fact that they've seen through the miasma of the cabal and are doing something positive and inclusive.

Way to go, guys! Thanks to the OP for posting this video, and thanks to the guys in the video for uplifting my spirits.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:41 PM
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In a democracy they should be listening to everyone, irrespective of colour, race, religion, etc.

Fact is though, there is no democracy. And these guys actually get it, more than most.

So, in a democracy, where I would have the freedom to listen to who I choose based on my perceived value of what they are saying, and where people had freedom of expression, these guys get my vote.



[edit on 30-7-2010 by wcitizen]



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 06:49 PM
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Oh god you gotta be kidding me OP...

First of all that article you linked where Obama calls blacks a "mongrel" people is TOTALLY taken out of context. Here is the definition of Mongrel according to Merriam-Webster dictionary:



Main Entry: mon·grel
Pronunciation: \ˈmäŋ-grəl, ˈməŋ-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, probably from mong mixture, short for ymong, from Old English gemong crowd — more at among
Date: 15th century
1 : an individual resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds or strains; especially : one of unknown ancestry
2 : a cross between types of persons or things


He also referred to WHITES as mongrels too. It was an accurate and innocuous use of the term 'mongrel' and it's silly/baseless to assert that he secretly meant something insulting or racist by it.

As for that trailer for "Runaway Slave"... It's seriously DISGUSTING.

What that trailer does is mix in a lot of sensible concepts and even cool music (Nine Inch Nails... which is ironic considering how anti-religious/anti-Republican Trent Reznor is) with some undertones of right-wing propaganda. Now the notion that blacks are SOMEHOW oppressed by progressives, progressive policies, and social programs is mostly ridiculous. I do agree that reliance upon centralized government should be eliminated as much as possible, HOWEVER, this "documentary" seems to just be another white(or black?)-washing of reality in order to sustain our plutocracy and usher in an unregulated Capitalist market.

Now I really have to ask Pastor C.L. Bryant... did the unregulated market of plantations, slave labor, indentured servitude, sweat shops and child labor work out so well for them or the masses?? NO it didn't. Will de-regulating modern Capitalist/Neo-Liberal/Globalist markets somehow MAGICALLY lift blacks out of oppression, repression, poverty, and inequality? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Free markets have NOTHING to do with the liberation of slaves, nor with the lessening of institutional/economic inequalities (especially based on race). Poor blacks will NOT somehow MAGICALLY become prosperous/wealthy entrepreneurs when their social programs are cut. IN FACT, such social programs are arguably what helps LIFT them out of poverty, homelessness and into a decent standard of living and job markets (which were pretty lacking for them even when times are good).

The difference with the makers of THIS "documentary" though are that they are obviously NOT average poor blacks, they are either rich or have been obviously brainwashed by the ideologies of rich right-wingers who are poisoning our society with plutocracy and calls for false freedom which will only cause the masses more suffering and inequity with the elites at the top. In other words, this is pure brainwashing and propaganda.

AMEN.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy
reply to post by endisnighe
 


First of all that article you linked where Obama calls blacks a "mongrel" people is TOTALLY taken out of context. Here is the definition of Mongrel according to Merriam-Webster dictionary:

I am not talking about the article here, only the video. Go to THE HILL article if you want to talk about that.



As for that trailer for "Runaway Slave"... It's seriously DISGUSTING.


Why, because you do not want EVERYONE to do great things with their lives? You want them to be slaves to a system?



What that trailer does is mix in a lot of sensible concepts and even cool music (Nine Inch Nails... which is ironic considering how anti-religious/anti-Republican Trent Reznor is) with some undertones of right-wing propaganda. Now the notion that blacks are SOMEHOW oppressed by progressives, progressive policies, and social programs is mostly ridiculous. I do agree that reliance upon centralized government should be eliminated as much as possible, HOWEVER, this "documentary" seems to just be another white(or black?)-washing of reality in order to sustain our plutocracy and usher in an unregulated Capitalist market.


What is wrong with an ACTUAL free market. Do you like the FACT that government, the corporations and the federal reserve are all in bed together. Is that what you like?



Now I really have to ask Pastor C.L. Bryant... did the unregulated market of plantations, slave labor, indentured servitude, sweat shops and child labor work out so well for them or the masses?? NO it didn't. Will de-regulating modern Capitalist/Neo-Liberal/Globalist markets somehow MAGICALLY lift blacks out of oppression, repression, poverty, and inequality? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Free markets have NOTHING to do with the liberation of slaves, nor with the lessening of institutional/economic inequalities (especially based on race). Poor blacks will NOT somehow MAGICALLY become prosperous/wealthy entrepreneurs when their social programs are cut. IN FACT, such social programs are arguably what helps LIFT them out of poverty, homelessness and into a decent standard of living and job markets (which were pretty lacking for them even when times are good).


Nice strawman argument here. I will try to burn it though.

Can you tell me of the millions of success stories of those wrapped in the welfare systems of today? No? I thought not, maybe you could find 10 in the last 20 years as examples. I am sure the progressives would love to be able so show any to prove that the welfare system is working.

Times were better when the government did NOT devalue the money supply. Did NOT manipulate markets by subsidizing certain commodities for the benefit to their corporate whores.

Taxing people into poverty is NOT lifting people out of the gutter of despair. Forcing people into welfare systems where they are rewarded for not having family values or being beholden to the system DOES NOT WORK!

The system is falling apart around you and you are blind to the ramifications of what is coming down the road.



The difference with the makers of THIS "documentary" though are that they are obviously NOT average poor blacks, they are either rich or have been obviously brainwashed by the ideologies of rich right-wingers who are poisoning our society with plutocracy and calls for false freedom which will only cause the masses more suffering and inequity with the elites at the top. In other words, this is pure brainwashing and propaganda.


Wow, pious much? So, those that have NOT fallen for the welfare system controls and have excelled are to be decried as brainwashed and uncle toms. Nice of you to show your true colors.

I myself say, remove our chains of indentured servitude and watch us soar, you on the other hand want to destroy the middle class and the poor. Thanks for playing.

Bu bye.

[edit on 7/30/2010 by endisnighe]



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by wigit
I think a lot of people are unaware that in amongst those old auction queues there were many white people being sold too. That slaves weren't all black.


Really, because Ive been to a traveling slavery exhibit that was the largest collection of auction block and lynching pictures in existence, and guess what.

I didn't see one white person up there. That's is the most rediculous comment Ive seen in a long time.

As for the OP the video was sweet and he made some valid points especially on the abortion front.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:13 PM
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one that enables another to achieve an end; especially : one who enables another to persist in self-destructive behavior (as substance abuse) by providing excuses or by making it possible to avoid the consequences of such behavior


Here's a few more

Lazy:
–adjective
1. averse or disinclined to work, activity, or exertion; indolent.


and


Worthless
without worth; of no use, importance, or value; good-for-nothing: a worthless person; a worthless contract.



They're both essentially the same thing, and they both fit like a glove to anyone too damn lazy or worthless to help pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Stop making excuses for yourself & other lazy people around you. It's despicable.






[edit on 30-7-2010 by Snarf]



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:21 PM
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Well, I had to address this. I do not know about that.

I do know for a fact that indentured servitude was a big thing back then.

If you could not afford to pay for your way across the Atlantic ocean, you could make a loan (see how I do that) against your life and be indentured for a length of time, was usually 7 years, to pay for the trip.

Now, slavery in all of history did have slaves of all colors. If you lost a war you and your family became slaves forever. That is the way it was.

In the US white slaves were few and far between. It was much easier to just buy the slaves from African Warlords.

EVIL EVIL thing slavery is. Just like how usury, income tax, property tax, socialist taxes amongst other things of today are.

It is just another indentured servitude loan contract.

See my thread here-Legal Slavery, right here in the United States of Hypocricy!

Now, in that thread I lay out the legal definition of indentured servitude and how it defines exactly what our government has done to us.

Now, there were white slaves, the revisionists do not want us to realize it.

See this link-www.revisionisthistory.org...

[edit on 7/30/2010 by endisnighe]



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:31 PM
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Wow! Now, that video took me by surprise! It was certainly not the usual talking points we have become so comfortable with over the years. From what I gather from being what is being said in this documentary is that slavery is alive and well? I have always thought that. This is kind of inline to what comedian, Bill Cosby, has been saying for years about self determination and independence of his people. Anytime he speaks out against the social woes of the black community he is labeled the usual run-of-the-mill insults by other Black leaders.



This is just some of it, but he has said more. Perhaps, it is similar to what is being said in the documentary. Furthermore, as I see it the chains have never been removed and now invisible. As far as I am concerned, it is far more sinister because they are applied subliminally. People have no idea chains are being applied, because they are not seen in the physical sense.

Sinister forces are out to enslave the last bastion of freedom and that is our minds. Through television, ideologies, religion, politics, economics, and about every aspect of society available for those who lust for absolute power. Perish the thought of people being able to think for themselves and deciding how they want to live. It is not a black or white issue, but an American one. This film is going to be attacked and marginalized by the mainstream media. Still, it brings up very good points. I will be keeping an eye out for this one when it is released. It is always good to see another side to the story.

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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:34 PM
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The government does force you to pay slavery taxes though does it not? You know how the super rich do not have to pay taxes? Trust, foundations, etc etc etc. Hey, can I create a endisnighe foundation so I do not have to pay taxes also? Thought not.

Oh, I see, these are just a bunch of black people bitching about white people huh? Nice spin.

They are decrying the government, so government is white now? I thought the head of the executive/dictator branch was black? My mistake, Obama is a white guy.


Wow, trying to just throw your condescending attitude out there at black people huh? Or are you referring to me?

Man, I really love that quote, that is going into the books as the most vile thing I have seen here. Thanks snarf for laying it bare.

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Be a man? That is the name of the article where I got the information. That is the size of the link letters. Have a problem with it?

Well, some people have problems with sourcing information. Maybe I could have not included it. But anytime to piss off the progressive/communists, makes me happy.

Hey, for the others.



Thanks for the comments and spread this far and wide. This movie will rock the government to it's roots. They are beginning to be afraid.

I would like those in the banking/corporate/government cartel out there to understand this.

Information is exponential in nature. Your divide and conquer is failing. Your racist diatribes are failing. Your attempt to flood us with people ignorant of your machinations are failing.

Be afraid.


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posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 12:04 AM
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Marcus Garvey's version of Black Nationalism argued that African Americans' quest for social equality was a delusion. They were fated to be a permanent minority who could never assimilate because white Americans would never let them. African Americans, therefore, could not improve their condition or gain autonomy in the United States. Only in Africa was self-emancipation possible.

The UNIA's first convention, held in 1920 in New York, lasted for thirty-one days with many thousands in attendance. It issued a manifesto, the Declaration of Rights for the Negro People of the World, and developed plans for a settlement in Liberia. The UNIA sold millions of shares in the Black Star Line, its own shipping company, to its members. Three steamships were purchased, and black officers and crew were contracted to sail the emigrants across the Atlantic.

Liberia and Sierra Leone were two African countries that served as the goals of the Back to Africa Movement




Whether strung together to inform or shock or possibly both, this Vice TV take on Liberia’s civil war is just horrifying—and fascinating. Warning: graphic content.

www.truthdig.com...


Sierra Leone Amputee Story 1
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 12:15 AM
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As another commenter mentioned, the black community has been fooled into believing that the government has their best interests at heart.

What you posted about the 1920's sounds almost ridiculous to me.

Anyway, what do you think about the video?



posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by endisnighe


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Be a man? That is the name of the article where I got the information. That is the size of the link letters. Have a problem with it?

Well, some people have problems with sourcing information. Maybe I could have not included it. But anytime to piss off the progressive/communists, makes me happy.



Thanks for taking a step toward owning your words.

First you post in your OP up top...bold and link.

Then when confronted about how you grossly ommited the context..

You whine...the thread is not about that, we aren't going to discuss it...

Your comment above shows exactly what I already knew...You took something out of context for political baiting purposes, ran from the comment when confronted and then finally admit that you were looking to push buttuns, the truth be damned...partisan, dishonest, political hackery.

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posted on Aug, 2 2010 @ 11:32 PM
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Not partisan, anti totalitarian, I am an equal opportunity hater of all progressive communists in BOTH parties.

You have to be part of the parties to be partisan, CORRECT?

Sorry, we have idiots in Washington that cannot discuss anything without sticking their feet in their well endowed mouths.

Do you really believe he was calling himself a mongrel? He was talking about the serfs that the elite communist masters control.

Welcome to the mongrel society. Where you better not tug on that leash too hard, you will get the Orwellian apparatchik to pay attention to you.

Samuel Adams
American Patriot & Politician
1722 - 1803
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us
in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down
and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon
you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.



[edit on 8/2/2010 by endisnighe]



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 02:03 AM
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The NIN song had me hooked throughout.

I think it's interesting the argument that progressive's and liberals are the ones holding down blacks and leaving them to be 'slaves' in modern society.

I know endisnighe is trying to look beyond the racial aspects and promoting the idea that we're all just slaves to the system. Everything is forced upon us, this same mentality that sparks the 'throw the bums out!' mentality that is, for the most part, a weak argument considering MOST of the 'bums' have been in congress for less than decade, even the president...in national politics for...what? Five years? Let's throw him out because he's obviously 'out of touch'.

As much as I'd like to believe that ANYONE can just be a millionaire if they work hard I face reality and look around me, seeing just the opposite. The upper class are the opressors...some of them are congressmen, some of them are private business owners funnelling cash into whatever pet project they have to promote their viewpoint and get 'the people' behind it.

They prey on your fears and dreams. Some are honest. What do you propose EIN? We all just abolish the government through...what? Voter abstainance? Violent revolution? Find some extremist who we can agree with on our most valued topic and watch them destroy the country?



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by links234
The NIN song had me hooked throughout.

I think it's interesting the argument that progressive's and liberals are the ones holding down blacks and leaving them to be 'slaves' in modern society.

I know endisnighe is trying to look beyond the racial aspects and promoting the idea that we're all just slaves to the system. Everything is forced upon us, this same mentality that sparks the 'throw the bums out!' mentality that is, for the most part, a weak argument considering MOST of the 'bums' have been in congress for less than decade, even the president...in national politics for...what? Five years? Let's throw him out because he's obviously 'out of touch'.


Well, we could argue the partisan politics points and all but as I take a look at the Dem vs Repub millionaire list, it seems the Dems have passed the ol money by far with the new money. You know, contracts with banks, big pharma and their ilk are big money now. As for old timers vs new timers, could not argue that the O man has not been in it for long, but boy o boy he sure does seem to be heading down the same path as Bushman. 27.3 Trillion dollars out of the FR that we know of, just imagine if O would of pushed for that to be given to the people of the US at say 97k/man woman and child. WOW, he could of been the second coming of Jesus (sorry my man, no blasphemy intended).



As much as I'd like to believe that ANYONE can just be a millionaire if they work hard I face reality and look around me, seeing just the opposite. The upper class are the opressors...some of them are congressmen, some of them are private business owners funnelling cash into whatever pet project they have to promote their viewpoint and get 'the people' behind it.


Yes, this is EXACTLY why the government should be kept as small as possible. They are to enforce the rule of the Constitution, not strip it of every last vision of freedom. The purpose of government is to enforce the rule of law. To do no harm to another, and to not infringe on another's rights to Life, Liberty and Property. Just think of how they are not even close to enforcing any of that. Where are the prosecutions of companies that use cost accounting to not fix known problems with their product and weigh the costs of lawsuits for deaths vs fixing the problems. As one example.



They prey on your fears and dreams. Some are honest. What do you propose EIN? We all just abolish the government through...what? Voter abstainance? Violent revolution? Find some extremist who we can agree with on our most valued topic and watch them destroy the country?



I think the only way to go is to force in a de jure government over the de facto government. Rule of law based upon common law principles, exactly as written out in the Constitution. The increase of statutes and code only disguises justice behind a veil of incantations created by the priests of the Order of BAR.

The spread of information is paramount to this cause. What was VERY surprising, I saw a black caucus member actually state on FOX news, one of my long held beliefs of removing all the income taxes and implement only consumption taxes. This directly would help to re establish fairness in the system. My idea was that all food, clothes below say $100 at today's prices and rental property to be exempt. This helps the poorer amongst us. This would also eliminate the need for the IRS and tax lawyers and accountants. Just eliminated quite a lot of fraud and redundant systems there.

Another is a complete elimination of property taxes, this would be covered under the sales tax when purchasing said property and this to implement allodial title once again. Remove the ability of corporations and their hitmen government from forcing one out of your own property.

These moves would also move us away from a debt based society. No one likes the bankers right? Well how is it to any of us that a privately held corporation Federal Reserve is allowed to create money out of thin air, manipulate pretty much everything in the world, and is allowed to keep all of that secret? On top of it, I imagine since 1913 the Fed Reserve has probably accumulated assets of $1 quadrillion. Where is that money? What ever became of the profits of that corporation. I mean, they create money from thin air, they pretty much get a cut of every dollar spent (dollars are debt vehicles, just as any other treasury or debt instrument) or borrowed.

Oh well, people like me have to keep plugging away.

[edit on 8/3/2010 by endisnighe]



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 08:29 AM
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Oh, I see, these are just a bunch of black people bitching about white people huh? Nice spin.


What spin do I need when, from the video, we hear things like this:

"Pre-1916, most black people were republican. What did we get in exchange for our 95% democratic vote?"

"14 million black babies have died since 1973"

"when you remove the black man out of the house, the black man going to jail raises by 60%"



then you have key words like

plantation
underground railroad
slavery


it's idiotic propaganda for white hate and you fell for it.

Or you're behind it. One or the other, they're one in the same.



posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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So your stance to a bunch of black people getting together is they are racists?

Nice to see the race card is non discriminatory!


As Samual said-

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”




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