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Scientists Find Evidence That Oil And Dispersant Mix Is Making Its Way Into The Foodchain

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posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 12:03 AM
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I dont have much to add read the article, this is just why those of us who are watching the spill everyday do what we do and when people say we are doomsayers well I toedeso.



what I find strange is just yesterday walmart takes all fresh seafood off the shelf...
HMMM what do they know




posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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Scientists have found signs of an oil-and-dispersant mix under the shells of tiny blue crab larvae in the Gulf of Mexico...


Blobs of corexit/oil under the shells does not mean it's entered the food chain. We would need to see metabolytes and such from higher up organisms to show that those chemicals are becoming part of our food... correct?



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 12:27 AM
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Hey, from your article-


"It does appear that there is a Corexit sort of fingerprint in the blob samples that we ran," Erin Gray, a Tulane biologist, told the Huffington Post Thursday. Two independent tests are being run to confirm those findings, "so don't say that we're 100 percent sure yet," Gray said.

"The chemistry test is still not completely conclusive," said Tulane biology professor Caz Taylor, the team's leader. "But that seems the most likely thing."


Wow, sounds like some great scientific verbiage there!

Tell me when they actually have something to report.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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doesnt this quote contradict the articles premise?




Perry said the discovery of the oil and dispersant blobs is very troubling -- but not, she made clear, because it has any impact on the safety of seafood in the short run. "Unlike heavy metals that biomagnify as they go up the foodchain, oil doesn't seem to do that," she said. Rather, she said,



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 07:58 AM
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good good ,americans will soon pay for the murders and genocides they committed in the third world .

I hope that corexant problem gets much worser



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by sadchild01
good good ,americans will soon pay for the murders and genocides they committed in the third world .

I hope that corexant problem gets much worser


You are aware that these problems, if they persist, will not be isolated to wealthy American military plates, right?

The Gulf boarders numerous countries, and is connected to every ocean on the planet.

But you're probably just trolling.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:11 AM
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"BIOACCUMULATION POTENTIAL Component substances have a potential to bioconcentrate" It's going to get passed down the food chain, where simple organisms (who may have a higher concentration of Corexit) get eaten by more complex organisms. See the LC50 findings above.


It was right there in the MSDS. See The MSDS for Corexit 9500

Cheers
Shane



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:31 AM
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Ok let me get see here, so you need to have how much scientific proof that this oil and corexit has reached the food chain. Just because it isn't in the fish you buy today at the store does not mean it is not in the food chain. Fish use this water to feed and live, so there is a real good chance that it has soaked in through their skin and also when they breath it in through their gills. This report didn't specify what food chain it is in but the food chain does start at the smallest of animals(larvae is a pretty good place to start). We can't stop although I wish we could and check every fish that is processed for consumption ,but some will get through to the consumer. So as far as the food chain goes I would have to say yes it has although it should have been specified a litttle more. A little knowledge is better than none with this problem that will be here for a while.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:36 AM
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Question does anyone know what kind of dispersent they are using in China and in Michigan.. Just asking if anyone knew...



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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I must thank you for such a well thought out post. If you have some more well thought out comments please be sure to share them with us. So you have a problem with americans, and that is your right. I should also mention one more thing. Now I know everyone has an opinion of americans, just remember this Your Opinion Matters to you and only you.
Thank you for your time. Next time you have any seafood please make sure it is from the GUlf of Mexico I hear it is high in corexit and oil so seasoning is not needed. Enjoy

edit : This is not a personal bashing only the comments you made.

[edit on 30-7-2010 by tsurfer2000h]



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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That is a good question. In Michigan I would think the EPA has a final word on what can be used since it is in the states and the spill happened within the US border. Knowing what they know now about corexit I would think they would be smarter than that to use it. As for China who knows something to look into for sure.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:56 AM
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Yea just checkin on what is being injected into the food chains as of now. Wonder if China will use another flavor... Wild world.... Lets feed em GM crops and CHEM mod. fish yea that will work.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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Here is something I found that is from company in China. Its is made in china and is a n enviro-friendly oil dispersant called CS-Y17. Along with German help this is something we should have used instead of corexit.
Here is a product detail for this dispersant.

Product Description

CS-Y17 oil removing agent contains many surface active agents and solvents with strong penetrability. It is mainly used to treat the spilled oil in seas and oceans and remov greasy dirt, and it is one of the necessary products for the controlling of ocean oil pollution and for the cleaning of greasy dirt on ships.
Trademark: CLEANSTAR
Model NO.: CS-Y17
Company: Zhuhai Cleanstar Cleaning Technonogy Co.,Ltd.
A link to the company to check out for yourself.

www.made-in-china.com...



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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Thank you very much for the intelligence shared...
2nd



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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No problem I haven't found anything for Michigan but wiil post it when I do find something.They may not tell us what is being used.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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This really says it all in my opinion.


With BP's well possibly capped for good, and the surface slick shrinking, some observers of the Gulf disaster are starting to let down their guard, with some journalists even asking: Where is the oil?

But the answer is clear: In part due to the1.8 million gallons of dispersant that BP used, a lot of the estimated 200 million or more gallons of oil that spewed out of the blown well remains under the surface of the Gulf in plumes of tiny toxic droplets. And it's short- and long-term effects could be profound.


I think we should all start advocating that all shellfish be required to be labeled with the point of origin. Unfortunately for the gulf region and for me too (gulf shellfish are probably the best in the world), I won't be buying Gulf shellfish any longer.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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Here's a link with some great info on the commercial/recreational fishing industry in the Gulf.
General Facts about the Gulf of Mexico

The Gulf of Mexico ecosystem provides a wide array of valuable resources to the nations on its shores....

It's not just the US that will suffer if the food chain in the Gulf is contaminated.

This garbage doesn't necessarily have to find it's way into the flesh of animals to keep them off the menu. Poor water conditions impact populations in a number of ways. Marine life is more susceptible to diseases/parasites when stressed. Even if the oil/dispersant doesn't turn up, I don't think it's a good idea to eat diseased or wormy seafood. Some species are hardier than others, we'll just have to hope for the best.

If the leak didn't kill the Gulf fishing industry with chemical pollutants it most certainly will impact the quality/quantity previously enjoyed. Check out the link you'll see just how much is at stake. Haven't we lost enough jobs/industry?



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
Ok let me get see here, so you need to have how much scientific proof that this oil and corexit has reached the food chain. Just because it isn't in the fish you buy today at the store does not mean it is not in the food chain.


Sigh. You seem confused by scientific terminology. I think the point you were responding to was merely pointing out that it being under a shell is not the same as actually entering the cells of an animal the way, say, mercury does.

The article also goes on to mention that if one of these shellfish are consumed by another fish they will merely poop out the oil droplets.




Fish are generally able to excrete ingested oil, but inverterbrates such as crabs don't have that ability.


Now, this isnt to say that it hasnt entered the food chain. I suspect it has and will continue to. But the article doesnt appear to provide the evidence it claims.

This is not surprising since they are writing for an audience (the average american) who doesnt know much about science.




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