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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Good. I hope this goes to trial and makes headline news to exactly the degree his false story did.isit the link for the full news article
Originally posted by jdub297
What is "false" about a video clip of an NAACP recording?
What is "false" or "misleading" about the accurate presentation of her statements?
As a "public official," Sherrod has to face responsibility for her own statements.
OMG! Facing responsibility for an accurate recording! Who should have to endure such a thing?
Surely not a racist, bigoted government official, so long as the racism is directed away from a "protected class."
So long as people are willing to ignore facts, and respond on emotion instead of law, we will be subject to specious claims and baseless allegations.
Any litigant MUST prove "damages."
How was Sherrod damaged by the presentation of her own words? Loss of a government job for about 28 hours? Presentation that she was willing at some point in her OFFICIAL position to take race, or class, or wealth into consideration? Statements of remorse? What DAMAGE did she suffer from being exposed as racist, other than being exposed as racist?
When did the truth become fodder for 'racist' and 'discrimination' claptrap?
deny ignorance
jw
Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Originally posted by jdub297
What is "false" about a video clip of an NAACP recording?
The big white letters on blue screen at the beginning of his version of the video.
OMG! Facing responsibility for an accurate recording! Who should have to endure such a thing?
It is not accurate.
Obviously you have no clue what was wrong with the video if you believe she was a racist government official.
Like the fact that she is not a racist because she saved those white people's farm or like the fact that she was not a government official?
And re-hired, and lionized by the likes of you. And returned to work at 10X her previous responsibility.
She was fired.
Originally posted by jdub297
Which provide an accurate description of her statements?
It is an absolutely accurate recording.
Her words speak for themselves. Spin them all you want.
No, like the fact that she made her initial decision on "race", then revised it upon "class."
Come on, if she could've done "X", but decided to do "X-1" due to race or class or wealth or poverty, she is PREJUDICED.
And re-hired, and lionized by the likes of you. And returned to work at 10X her previous responsibility.
How was Sherrod damaged by the presentation of her own words?
Loss of a government job for about 28 hours?
Presentation that she was willing at some point in her OFFICIAL position to take race, or class, or wealth into consideration?
Statements of remorse?
What DAMAGE did she suffer from being exposed as racist, other than being exposed as racist?
I guess that's cool. So, when you apply for my job opening, and I decide on these 'criteria', you won't cry?
deny ignorance
jw
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by Adevoc Satanae
Shirley Sherrod may have made her STATEMENTS after her authority expired.
She made her DECISIONS while clothed with authority.
Whether based on race, class or wealth, she violated the proscripts of the program she administered at that time.
The videos of her statements were 100% accurate; even she and the NAACP do not try to deny this. Instead, they try to explain them away, or qualify them by later "confessions."
Too little, too late.
Try as you like, you cannot change an accurate recording from becoming admissible evidence.
The only 'predicate' questions are:
"Is this an accurate recording of the events presented;"
"Do they fairly and accurately represent the events as they transpired?"
Please check your Federal Rules of Evidence and Rules of Procedure before you attempt to offer slanted scripts of what is or what will transpire.
Sherrod must face the facts if she wants "justice."
jw
Originally posted by jdub297
She can "qualify" and "explain" all she wants; but, the statement speaks for itself!
jw
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by Adevoc Satanae
When you grow up, have an adult explain to you what it means when a government official has the power to control money allocations, loans and grants.
Even if that person moves on to future wealth and rewards, her decisions have affected those against whom she discriminated.
Facts are facts.
deny ignorance
jw
en.wikipedia.org...
On July 19, 2010, Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign from her position as Georgia State Director of Rural Development for the United States Department of Agriculture
Imagine farm workers doing back breaking labor in the sweltering sun, sprayed with pesticides and paid less than minimum wage. Imagine the United Farm Workers called in to defend these laborers against such exploitation by management. Now imagine that the farm workers are black children and adults and that the managers are Shirley Sherrod, her husband Rev. Charles Sherrod, and a host of others. But it’s no illusion; this is fact.
Originally posted by jdub297
She is a bigotted racist; regardless of her job, title,or wealth.
Spooner Family's Account
Roger Spooner said on CNN that Sherrod is not a racist, that Sherrod did everything she could for his family, and over twenty years later, he and Sherrod remain friends.[28] The Spooners credit Sherrod with helping them save their farm: "If it hadn't been for her, we would've never known who to see or what to do," Roger Spooner said. "She led us right to our success."
expertlaw.com
Generally speaking, defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a printed or fixed medium, such as a magazine or newspaper.
Typically, the elements of a cause of action for defamation include:
1. A false and defamatory statement concerning another;
2. The unprivileged publication of the statement to a third party (that is, somebody other than the person defamed by the statement);
3. If the defamatory matter is of public concern, fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and
4. Damage to the plaintiff.
In the context of defamation law, a statement is "published" when it is made to the third party. That term does not mean that the statement has to be in print.