Ahmadinejad 5/24/10 G15 Summit (full text), page 1
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Topic started on 29-7-2010 @ 02:38 PM by Sri Oracle
Please help me analyse the full text of President Ahmadinejad's speech in the 14th summit of G15

www.president.ir...


It became evident that creation of paper properties and its complicated networks and interest based economic relations, not only have caused further problems, but it rather turned into channel for transfer of the wealth of nations to the treasury of the capitalists and similarly it led to the transfer of the problems of certain number of States to other nations. All these events led to the real collapse of the international economic regime and thus more than tens of billion US dollars damages were imposed over the world economy. The most serious effects of it were emerged in the poor countries which resulted in further expansion of poverty and food crisis.


I invite you to read Ahmadinejad's words and share your thoughts on this man posed as a "crazy religious fool with destructive nuclear ambitions" in the West.

Thanks for reading!

I am,

Sri Oracle


reply posted on 29-7-2010 @ 04:29 PM by ~Lucidity
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I don't know if it's still out there, but at one point he had a blog, much like Castro's Letters. That was pretty interesting reading.



[edit on 7/29/2010 by ~Lucidity]


reply posted on 29-7-2010 @ 11:04 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
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Great speech. It shows him to be an intellectual (or, at least have intellectual speech writers).

Unfortunately, he lost me at the end. I was really going strong with his blasting of materialistic philosophies. It falls directly in line with my thoughts about how our greed fueled society is doomed to fail every time it iterates (and has likely seen several failures over the millenia).

But he lost me when he wanted to replace it with trusting, instead, in "the Almighty God".

Erm, no thanks. I would rather trust in myself. I know i have my best interests at heart, and have never failed to answer my own prayers. God cannot say the same.


reply posted on 30-7-2010 @ 06:08 AM by AceWombat04
It is indeed a well-crafted speech and much of the pure text I would have to express agreement with. Nevertheless, neither this speech, nor any of his others, can erase from my mind my awareness of Iran's human rights abuses any more than a speech given by my own President can erase awareness of the deeds enacted by my own government with which I passionately disagree.

Indeed, while I certainly cannot prove it and would therefore never assert it to be a fact, I strongly suspect that condemning the U.S. while espousing support for Iran's leadership would be playing right into the hands of TPTB. Conspiracy theorists supporting Iran while condemning the United States. I cannot be convinced that that doesn't constitute an attractive target of spin to their benefit and our detriment. As in the Cold War, when grass roots political groups were infiltrated both by our own government and by foreign governments, resulting in people who thought they were supporting an idealized form of communism instead directly supporting the U.S.S.R., this can be played by both sides to their benefit, and to our detriment in my view.

I'm not going to pick a side or pretend one nation's human rights abuses don't exist just because they seem to be in opposition to another nation with which I profoundly disagree, nor can I pretend Ahmadinejad is somehow a benevolent, uncorrupt leader just because he says things with which I would ordinarily agree in a speech, or because I oppose military action against Iran.

Presidents Bush and Obama (and many before them) said things I technically agreed with, as well. They were never born out by their actions however, and they have both done things with which I vehemently disagree, as has Ahmadinejad. And Iran's track record is far from pristine in my opinion.

The best lies, which are the most effective means of manipulation in my opinion, are those which conceal themselves within aspects of the truth. I respect everyone's opinions to the contrary, though, as always.

[edit on 7/30/2010 by AceWombat04]


reply posted on 30-7-2010 @ 06:50 AM by ~Lucidity
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This is exactly why I alluded in my first post here to some saying he is a sham. It's good to doubt...the be skeptical.

My worry is that when the real deals do come along, we'll doubt them out of existence.

And the other way to look at this?

Geopolitics, from what I've seen and read and heard, means forming alliances that are fluid and temporary to get what you want accomplished in the moment.

That's how they play the game, that's how he might be playing it, and that's how we need to play it too.

Sometimes supporting someone you don't entirely "believe in" or "trust" is necessary to either get out of a ditch or pave the way for the next step. You can always "dump them" later.

When the choice is two evils, the lesser evil is still better. Recognizing which is the lesser evil is hard though. Especially when the two evils or even good and evil vilify each other too.
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