With no clearly defined mission or purpose from the top down to the bottom, morale is extremely low. No mail call, free phone card, or German chocolate cake in the chow hall can make up for it.

Our troops know that they are surrounded on all sides by the 'enemy' on a daily basis, but there is no soft or hard target to attack. These sustained missions are NOT what our military was trained for. Our military is trained, armed, and equipped to strike hard and fast, get the job done, and come home. The politicians think that everyone should be a politician now. That's how full of themselves they really are.

The civilian suits that are obviously in charge have absolutely no clue how to use military forces correctly. Ask Stanley McChrystal what he thinks. He'll tell you what he thinks. He's so god damn fed up with the bullsh!t that he put his entire career on the line for the truth.

We either need to give these troops the green light to put some serious lead downrange or get them the hell out of there.

I say let the sore fester as we consolidate and reorganize, let the 'enemies' of our country reach a mass great enough to discern, and THEN take the fight to them. There's no point in chasing 400 Jihadists around a city and country with 11 million people in it. Our leaders are stupid.

It is devastating to think about the generations to come who are going to be affected on all sides of this stupid war. Those who have lost family and friends, the injured, the ones who will suffer with the hauntings and their spouses and children who will suffer along with them. War just sucks.

Peace.

when has a military never been used in history for successful gains(corporate?) for the parent nation.

Unless Americans have a family member in Iraq or Afghanistan they will never know what our soldiers are going through out there. I'm pretty sure that even some family members don't know the whole truth. I have never told anybody about anything that I did or seen out there.

Now for the Americans that don't know what's going on out there will never understand. The fact that the MSM is too busy following Lebron James and Lindsey Lohan to show the truths about our wars.

And us Americans are so stupid that most would probably prefer to watch TMZ even if the MSM showed the truth.

Then we have this thing with Iran. Why is it that everybody thinks that the US is the only country with the right to have nukes? Why is it unacceptable for Iran to have some? The US just wants to keep these countries on their knees.

Look at that Wikileaks 90something thousand page report. Supposedly Pakistan is helping out the Taliban. Why haven't we attacked Pakistan.

The US didn't think twice about invading Afghanistan. Why? Because they have no nukes. Why did the US jump so confidently into Iraq? Because it was already known that they had no WMDs. Why hasn't the US hit North Korea? Because they are a loud mouthed country that the US hasn't been able to call their bluff.

Al-QAEDA of the US (CIA) has an obsession with the middle east. Why is it that America hasn't realized that these wars are being ran by private companies in the US? Has anyone noticed where these multimillion dollar contracts are going to? They are not going to the Armed Forces. They aren't necessarily going to the rebuilding of Iraq. They are going to these companies developing new weapons, to contractors running everything in Iraq, from fueling to dining facilities. They are paying theses contractors to do what soldiers are perfectly capable of doing and have done so in past wars.

Ok, enough complaining. Just wanted to get it out of my system. You guys have a good one!!!

we could have had schools or repaired the dams that are breaking , what about the power grid that needs to be rebuilt, the mines collapsing, the rigs leaking.. we could have had hospitals or spent the money solving problems not making more.

I wonder if Russia had the exact same problems during their longterm occupation of Afghanistan?

Insanity = repeating the exact same process and expecting different results.

Originally posted by Tnewguy
Why haven't we attacked Pakistan.

cuz if we did they would reveal to all Americans
just what role the CIA and Fed Gov had in 9/11.

Pakistan is the key to unlocking 9/11
and the US and CIA know it so they
pacify their whims.

_rich_ and P51mustang are both correct. We will be out there for ever or until we run out of money (Russia) and we will be in the same position that we're in now.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
It is devastating to think about the generations to come who are going to be affected on all sides of this stupid war. Those who have lost family and friends, the injured, the ones who will suffer with the hauntings and their spouses and children who will suffer along with them. War just sucks.

Peace.

Stupid, to us may be, but have you seen the money some corps and co's are making out of this sh!tstorm.

Whether there are vets in trouble or young people in trouble, or even old people in trouble. No one cares.

I'm ok with the idea we should take care of vets, but the special importance placed on them should be given to all people. It's so easy to parade slogans around "Support our vets" but problems with all our youth have been increasing over the years. We should care equally about our young soldiers and young citizens who need support.

We invest money into education and expect profit in the form of productive citizens, but where's the investment into health? Sick people can't work as effectively if they are sick...

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