Congress Supports Expansion Of War Into Pakistan

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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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The House on Tuesday overwhelmingly opposed a resolution demanding the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Pakistan.



It was voted down 38-372.

War is the health of the State.


www.govtrack.us...



Directing the President, pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution, to remove the United States Armed Forces from Pakistan.

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring),
SECTION 1. REMOVAL OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES FROM PAKISTAN.

Pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(c)), Congress directs the President to remove the United States Armed Forces from Pakistan--

(1) by no later than the end of the period of 30 days beginning on the day on which this concurrent resolution is adopted; or

(2) if the President determines that it is not safe to remove the United States Armed Forces before the end of that period, by no later than December 31, 2010, or such earlier date as the President determines that the Armed Forces can safely be removed.




[edit on 29-7-2010 by mnemeth1]




posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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It's like some death eating vampire.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Now wait a second.

Yes, they just passed a bill not to remove troops from Afghanistan, but nowhere is it written that they support expansion. Rejecting a proposal in no way implies that anyone supports expansion. I'd work on that headline.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
It's like some death eating vampire.


They would rather the nation be economically leveled rather than give up their power.

The democrats and republicans have decided to destroy our nation in a way "terrorists" never could. By imploding the currency and bankrupting the nation.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Now wait a second.

Yes, they just passed a bill not to remove troops from Afghanistan, but nowhere is it written that they support expansion. Rejecting a proposal in no way implies that anyone supports expansion. I'd work on that headline.


They support the expansion into Pakistan, or else they would have voted against the proposal.

The proposal has nothing to do with Afghanistan troop levels.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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If you refuse to stop you are obviously in favor of continuing.

Unless you're a follower of Clintonian "meaning of the word 'is' is" newspeak.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 09:55 AM
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Were looking more and more like the Roman empire in it's decline just before the FALL.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by ablue07
Were looking more and more like the Roman empire in it's decline just before the FALL.



The market will put an end to our criminal escapades soon.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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Marvelous. While they're at it, i wonder why they just don't make it 1000 years, lets just stay there permanently, because you know, a taliban/terrorist will pop up eventually.

Anyone who really believes these guys represent us anymore, it out of their mind. Don't want bailouts, too bad. Don't want pointless war and occupation, too bad. Don't want health care... too bad. You're getting it all, bend over and take it.

Just wait until people stop signing up to volunteer for the military. Ohhhh.. we're in for a treat then!



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by elcapitano75
Just wait until people stop signing up to volunteer for the military. Ohhhh.. we're in for a treat then!


As long as economic policies kill jobs and this culture of debt prevails Uncle Sam will have no problem finding minimum wage fodder.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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The government is the media and the media is the government.

Both are lovers of war.



We will have war until we can no longer wage war.

The market is the only force that can stop us.


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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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The Income Tax and the Welfare-Warfare State [Jacob Hornberger]
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The Myth of War Prosperity [Robert Higgs]
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Government as Window Breaker: Hazlitt's Lesson Reapplied [Lew Rockwell]
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Historians and the Welfare-Warfare State [Joseph R. Stromberg]
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War and the Leviathan State [Robert Higgs]
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War as a Con Game | by William Norman Grigg
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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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Therein lies the problem. There's no other jobs available (unless flipping burgers counts!) for young people. They can make more money in the Army than they can at home plus the benefits..

Gen Butler said it right when he said "war is a racket". And it's about the only racket available.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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38-372

I would say this is the ratio of politicians willing to act on conviction, but I think its worse than that.

Conviction means consistency and adherence to principle.

This is the state of our government, and the people of America love it.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 12:12 PM
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OMG that is hilarious. No doubt shot at CNN studios in Atlanta

Oh, the Danger!!

I remember watching that crap live and falling for it. Did we actually have any Patriot missiles? It makes me wonder about everything that happened in the Gulf War. I have 2 friends that are ex-military who were both in Iraq and both suffer from severe migraines, fibromyalgia, personality disorders and depression. We'll probably never know what happened there or what happened to our service members to mess them up so badly.
While the video is funny, knowing it was a con job makes me mad as hell.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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The entire war is a con job.

We are directly funding the Taliban for gods sake.

We pay contractors to supply us, the contractors pay the Taliban.

We fund the Paki ISI, the ISI directly funds the Taliban.

We pay the Afghan warlords, the warlords pay the Taliban.

Tell me how its possible that a country entirely occupied by the US military is the largest producer of heroine in the world?

We are shipping the drugs out, we are guarding the drugs, and we installed an Afghani government that is operated by drug dealers.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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There seems to be some weird binarism going on in your heads. there are three states that an occupation can be in:

Advancing

Retreating

Not moving.

The congress has just now decided to not retreat, to not move. They have not decided toa dvnce. While this does suggest that they might be willing to advance, it does not MEAN that.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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So if the military was not previously occupying Pakistan, but now is, what state is that called again?

oh, by the way, Afghanistan troop levels




There is roughly one US soldier for every 430 people that live in Afghanistan at the moment.



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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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www.atimes.com...


ISLAMABAD - The approval given to the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) by the administration of President Barack Obama to expand drone strikes in Pakistan's tribal regions is on face value a declaration of war by the US inside Pakistan. The move comes at a time when Pakistan is trying to win some breathing space to delay an all-out operation in North Waziristan, home to powerful militant groups and an al-Qaeda headquarters.


Of course, the bill now gives the pentagon carte blanc to do as they please inside Pakistan since the pentagon now knows that they are not prohibited from doing so by the Congress.

Of course, drone strikes aren't the only thing our criminal government is doing on the Paki side of the border.

They are running SF operators over there with the ISI training militants.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 01:57 PM
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Looks like this forum is heavily in favor of more warfare considering the lack of commentary.

Since both parties are in favor of endless war, it looks like most ATS'ers are still caught in the trap of statism and the false left/right paradigm.





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