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Iran sets major exercise; Ahmadinejad sees war by November

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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Just as a point of order there have been ongoing drone strikes in Pakistan for ages.

Also your argument about the US being unable to conduct 4 theaters of war simultaneously is also lacking. There are over 400,000 mercenaries in the region on the US payroll already. Quite easy to retask them so that official US forces escape the brunt of casualties and therefore the govt escapes ire of the public. economic reasons against also do not hold any water. TPTB want to bankrupt the West so the more they can spend the better. TPTB also raise mind boggling amounts of finance from the black budget as well as govt control of drug and slavery trades. we should also not forget that many believe the next couple of years are the manouvering towards WW3, if so then the more small wars you can start the easier it will later be to declare a global war.

and finally....

Lets not forget this new Obama agenda of bringing back the draft. No personnel problems then.




posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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Web Bot sees war by November 8-11th...give a day or two. Either way some SHTF and I'm standing by watching it go down. Sucks we always have to be going to war all the dang time. Honestly I wish I could grab all the worlds leaders put them in a room together and slap the crap out of all of them, thell them their retards screwing up the world...and leave them their doing time together for about 6 months doing time on treason to human peace!

Hahaha. That would rock...no make them go through a boot camp type deal and they would have to pass or be held on treason for life. They would have to refeer to themselves in the 3rd person and have to work together to over come obsticals...hahhaah....for months and months disturbing their peace like they do us and having them have to work together!

I really like that...I feel happy just thinking about that...hahaha.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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A PMC army cannot be effectively used as an invasion force, I don’t even think it is legal. If “TPTB” wanted to bankrupt the west they could do quite easily without starting another two wars, in any case your reasons for a 2 new wars being possible in the next few months is based entirely on conspiracy.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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It’s not a “prediction” in the usual ATS sense its based on that history you speak of. I was not claiming to be “seeing” the future rather it is a educated guess as to what is most likely to happen.

[edit on 29-7-2010 by kevinunknown]



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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My educated guess is that Ahkmanutjob is blowing hot air again. He's sounding very much like Lil Kim from North Korea. What a paranoid lot they are.

Little do they know-the US is already "winning" without doing anything because psychologiclly these guys keep preparing and talking about an impending attack every other week that doesnt happen. Must be fun to be walking around on eggshells all the time LOLOL.

[edit on 29-7-2010 by princeofpeace]



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
My educated guess is that Ahkmanutjob is blowing hot air again. He's sounding very much like Lil Kim from North Korea. What a paranoid lot they are.

Little do they know-the US is already "winning" without doing anything because psychologiclly these guys keep preparing and talking about an impending attack every other week that doesnt happen. Must be fun to be walking around on eggshells all the time LOLOL.

[edit on 29-7-2010 by princeofpeace]


let alone NK and Iran wouldnt stand a chance VS the USA
why are they defiant like this ?.. Saddam was defiant
he was hanged ... so we have to ask ourself why dont they bow to the US .. they are not scared .. something else is behind that defiant attitude from NK and Iran
a hint : they have powerfull allies egual to the USA military
guess who



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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all you have to know is that november is the 9th month. that's when war, in the 9th month, if there is a war will be full strength.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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9th month of what? Its the 11th month on the calendar.



Originally posted by bruxfinn
all you have to know is that november is the 9th month. that's when war, in the 9th month, if there is a war will be full strength.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:36 PM
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Okay you got me. Who are their powerful allies that are as powerful as the US?



let alone NK and Iran wouldnt stand a chance VS the USA
why are they defiant like this ?.. Saddam was defiant
he was hanged ... so we have to ask ourself why dont they bow to the US .. they are not scared .. something else is behind that defiant attitude from NK and Iran
a hint : they have powerfull allies egual to the USA military
guess who



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:44 PM
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That comment is classic American arrogant imperialist rhetoric. The question is not “why don’t they bow to the US” but why should the bow the US. This is tough talk, it’s not meant for the Western public but for the people of Iran, DPRK, Burma or wherever, it’s said to appease their respective domestic population. Why does Iran go on about America attacking them and interfering with them, because the Iranian public don’t like America very much so its popular for their leaders to talk tough when it comes to American foreign relations, to do this they must turn them into the bogie man. Now yes it is more complicated than that but with specific regards to these comments that’s what’s going on.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by spy66
Last week according to the UN sanctions no one is allowed to trade energy services with Iran at any level. The US wont attack until there is at least one more UN meeting where they discus the result of the new sanctions set by the UN.

This is the time we will start to see if there is going to be a attack or not. If the US are going to attack Iran, we will see a major build up of US forces in Saudi Arabia and Iraq. This has not happened yet.


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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:51 PM
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I wonder what he/they plan on doing to prevoke a war on those dates.

The only way he can be certin is if he plans on starting it right?



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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Nove is 9. Octo is 8 and Septem is 7...but his war is scheduled for the 9th month.

the war if there is one will begin in just over 30 days.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by kevinunknown
reply to post by Ben81
 


That comment is classic American arrogant imperialist rhetoric. The question is not “why don’t they bow to the US” but why should the bow the US. This is tough talk, it’s not meant for the Western public but for the people of Iran, DPRK, Burma or wherever, it’s said to appease their respective domestic population. Why does Iran go on about America attacking them and interfering with them, because the Iranian public don’t like America very much so its popular for their leaders to talk tough when it comes to American foreign relations, to do this they must turn them into the bogie man. Now yes it is more complicated than that but with specific regards to these comments that’s what’s going on.


yes i fully agree with you of course ...

for the bowing part .. this is what US wants
many countries have bow to the US imperialist foreign relation policies for to long
but at this point .. they dont want peace talk ... like israel for palestine
Oil play a big part in this big domination(bow to me or else) plan
the Irak war and Afghanistan war are illegals ...
Iran is right between them..(no coincidences on this)

this conclude that the US gov itself have put at arm risks the marines
for ME dominance to control the Oil .. look where the US is now (14trillions dollars debt) soon to enter a massive depression
the national security is at risk .. Present and Past president(Bush&Obama)
have made the worst moral choice in its history
they have stolen the tax payers dollars for selfish hidden interests
and its not a war with Iran that will fix things (ITS THEIR GOAL)
more will turn against USA arrogance ...
in the last 10 years the goverment have multiply by thousands the enemy rank

i dont like violence .. nothing should be resolve in violence
i think only a general strike would succeed at making the Gov listen to their people ...
because the goverment didnt do the right, moral, corect choices for its people...
ONLY A POLICY U-TURN can fix the cancer that grow inside that goverment
i though Obama would be that guy to make the uturn before its elections
i was diceived by the kind words he used to win that election
YES WE CAN



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 05:10 PM
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Attack would probably be at night on or near a new moon in the fall when temperatures begin cooling. The idea being stealth aircraft not only not seen by radar but also difficult to see against the black sky of the new moon.

Oct new moon window is probably 6-9th
Nov new moon window is probably 5-7th

moon phase calendar

Just my 2



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 05:12 PM
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For people in a country like this that has reached this point, this is when you either flee to less insane government less intent on getting you killed as it tries to commit a holy suicide, or rebel. Note how many Cubans, Mexicans and South Americans are desperately fleeing from their countries. I wonder with the way things are going in the USA and Canada at what point things will go in reverse, when those living in comfort there will flee, and to where.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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Why is everyone hellbent on October or November? Ive seen those dates before like every year almost and nothing happens. Last year all the big talk was August and nothing happened. Why this time? Whats the "new" evidence?



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 06:25 PM
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WAR WAR WAR.................i suppose anything is possible anytime, but the build up will have to increase dramatically first....
Things like shipments of new bunker buster bombs to Isreal, and diego garcia would have to be en situ, not just on the way....
More troop movements and callups of a regimental and larger nature,
Positioning of more air assets in surrounding bases, along with the attendant support troops etc.
Things like this dont just happen, it takes millions of tons of cargo and man hours of work to set up for the size of the campaign that it would take to neutralize Irans potential for retaliation.
Not only do the air groups have to destroy the nuclear threat.....they have to immobilise the entire country as well as remove their industrial base and infrastructure.
A bombing campaign can only do so much......the rquirement for maximum initial damage is paramount.
Oblique warfare is a hard thing to predict, but we know the Irani high command have studied possibilities with intense interest,(knowing full well the opening bars of the tune may destroy much of their conventional weaponry....
Their immediate response must be stifled along with any capability to respond effectively.
Somehow, i think this will take a much more massive buildup of materiel, and should this continue to pour into strategic locations over the next while, then indded the die has been cast.One is left to wonder how far along the stocking of other bases in the Stans"(tajikistan etc)may be also.
Perhaps this angle of research could give us a better idea as to when a possibly action could be FEASABLE?
Right now, i dont think sufficient assets to do the "job"have been assembled and positioned...
Any input on that?



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by stirling
WAR WAR WAR.................i suppose anything is possible anytime, but the build up will have to increase dramatically first....
Things like shipments of new bunker buster bombs to Isreal, and diego garcia would have to be en situ, not just on the way....
More troop movements and callups of a regimental and larger nature,
Positioning of more air assets in surrounding bases, along with the attendant support troops etc.
Things like this dont just happen, it takes millions of tons of cargo and man hours of work to set up for the size of the campaign that it would take to neutralize Irans potential for retaliation.
Not only do the air groups have to destroy the nuclear threat.....they have to immobilise the entire country as well as remove their industrial base and infrastructure.
A bombing campaign can only do so much......the rquirement for maximum initial damage is paramount.
Oblique warfare is a hard thing to predict, but we know the Irani high command have studied possibilities with intense interest,(knowing full well the opening bars of the tune may destroy much of their conventional weaponry....
Their immediate response must be stifled along with any capability to respond effectively.
Somehow, i think this will take a much more massive buildup of materiel, and should this continue to pour into strategic locations over the next while, then indded the die has been cast.One is left to wonder how far along the stocking of other bases in the Stans"(tajikistan etc)may be also.
Perhaps this angle of research could give us a better idea as to when a possibly action could be FEASABLE?
Right now, i dont think sufficient assets to do the "job"have been assembled and positioned...
Any input on that?



Yes, yes, yes! And the Moon is made of Cheese!

We can spend millions of dollars and man hours doing all of the above.

Or we can sit back, push a couple of buttons, make a phone call and send in a few well placed mini nukes to cut the head off the chicken.

Problem solved!



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 04:48 AM
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The American people will not buy it. Unless there's a false flag to justify it.




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