Australian PM wants to ban body armour

Countries like New Zealand and Australia have good stable democracies where "we the people" control the politicians. Any blemish or scandal, and they are GONE.
You may have heard that our Prime Minister Rudd got heaved out on his ear because he was unpopular. Not because he actually did anything wrong in the sense of criminal or immoral. He just irritated people.
So now we get to vote in an honest open election with full scrutiny and full paper trail.

Im sorry I gotta disagree, we only have the illusion of democracy. The system of puppet selection works well, but the masters are still very much hidden. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely belive they are free.
Rudd wasnt a member of either of the major factions at work in the country, he had to go. Usually the controlled mainstream media and an election is enough. Each faction has members in both the major parties, hence the inner party conflict like what we've been seeing with the labour party, same goes for the libs. Many of the illuminati(I use this term loosley) minions in the parties dont even know they are being played, they are recruited for a belief they hold that can be used by the puppet masters to further their agenda. They may be wined dined and bribed, but never filled in on the whole plan. Most dont know what is really going on, and the really good part is that they would most likely cease to participate if they did.

Originally posted by CHA0S
reply to post by NuclearPaul

 

But that only restricts the importation of those 22 things? What is to stop anyone getting them here...body armour can't be overly hard to acquire can it...

[edit on 29/7/10 by CHA0S]

I seriously doubt that body armor is a weapon, much the the effectiveness or clear cut reason why it should be banned much like those useless laser pointers.

If the argument is so that no disgruntled "citizen" or criminal can have access to one
then both the reason and argument to why body armor should be banned are void.

Any criminal, gang (yes we do have them here in Oz, not just the ethnic and biker variety) or desperate individual
can attain any weapon, as long as they have the money and connections.
The only thing this law is doing is monitoring and prohibiting the procurement of these items to general public.

Does a criminal go through the same channels to get a gun??

Enlighten me on how does this stop criminals nor make it harder for them to get what they want????
better yet why is body armor or laser pointer considered a weapon by definition??

To say that there is no reason not to own a vest is not an answer to why you should not.

Does it directly cause loss of life??, can it be used to hurt people?? Someone enlighten me
with clear cut reason and not political or social drivel that does not answer the questions directly.

whats hilarious is anyone with a mechanic shop or machine shop can build most any weapon they desire with little or no effort.

they are going to too much trouble to attempt to stop the unstoppable...silly Aussies

Originally posted by aliengenes
whats hilarious is anyone with a mechanic shop or machine shop can build most any weapon they desire with little or no effort.

they are going to too much trouble to attempt to stop the unstoppable...silly Aussies

www.justice.vic.gov.au...

read this list, you'll find a few items there that are a joke to be banned or cannot be easily regulated.

I thought this may be somewhat relevant to this site:

www.neahin.org...

School Safety Less than 1% of all homicides among school-aged children (5-19 years of age) occur in or around school grounds or on the way to and from school.

Children and Gun Violence In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002. That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week. And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

America and Gun Violence American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)

Guns in the Wrong Hands Faulty records enable terrorists, illegal aliens and criminals to purchase guns. Over a two and a half-year period, at least 9,976 convicted felons and other illegal buyers in 46 states obtained guns because of inadequate records

www.nationmaster.com...

The graph here (SEE ABOVE) shows the following: # 4 United States: 9,369, in comparison to # 25 Australia: 59 .

To be fair the worst stats lay with:
# 1 South Africa: 31,918
# 2 Colombia: 21,898
# 3 Thailand: 20,032

As was reported by another poster - gun related crime has come down for the US - and again we have to keep in mind that the US does have a larger population than Aus does.

In keeping with the above lets look at some bum pluck stats only:

2010
Death: US 9369 AU 59
Populations (eg only): E 300 Mil E 22 Mil (these have been rounded)
22 Mil is 7.33% of 300 Mil.
So in converting that to a populations figure we get the AU equivalent for the US @ 687 Deaths for the year of 2010: That is around 1 in 10 deaths to AU.... Sad stats when you look at it from this perspective

reply to post by RickRandy69


well they better watch out for the large pruning sheers and the sickles. hell i'd just use a mower blade/swingblade