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Exclusive: Google, CIA Invest in 'Future' of Web Monitoring

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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia


Originally posted by rufusthestuntbum
ok is there anything as fast as chrome but that won't track my ats visits
this is bad bad news


www.epicbrowser.com...


I am going to try this but I wonder what the differences are between this and fire3fox.

Also the new Opera is claiming to be the fastest with new redesigned java and image engines and built in tools like Turbo Boost : www.opera.com...

But the question remains.. are these secure?




posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:42 PM
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I guess I dont understand why this is bad/dangerous. It seems to me it is an extension of the idea of "crowd sourcing" or that web bot thingie some people talk about.

Granted, I am sure the CIA dont plan to use it for our benefit, (we the little people) but for their own, but the idea of trying to predict the future from current chatter isnt really all that new, or exclusive to Google and the CIA.

Their interest just lends the idea some credibility, as I see it.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:51 PM
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Whats this i hear and read, C.I.A. is monitoring the web..never...never i tell you.


So once again, the idiot box has managed to wipe clean the majority of web users



February 4, 2010

Google Asks NSA to Help Secure Its Network



The NSA’s general counsel began drafting the cooperative research and development agreement the day that Google announced it had been hacked, according to The Wall Street Journal. The agreement was finalized within 24 hours, but the information sharing at that time was limited, and only allowed the NSA to examine some of the data related to the hack. Most of the data that was shared concerned the nature of the data that was stolen, the paper said. Both the FBI and NSA worked directly with Google on the investigation.

Read More www.wired.com...

www.wired.com...



28th Oct 2006

Ex-CIA Agent States Google is "In Bed With" the CIA



Former CIA clandestine case officer Robert Steele has stated that Google is "in bed with" the CIA, as his contacts within the CIA confirm.

www.threadwatch.org...


This is not real, you are imagining everything, the internet and your cell phone is secure. This is not real, you are imagining everything, the internet and your cell phone is secure.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
I guess I dont understand why this is bad/dangerous. It seems to me it is an extension of the idea of "crowd sourcing" or that web bot thingie some people talk about.

Granted, I am sure the CIA dont plan to use it for our benefit, (we the little people) but for their own, but the idea of trying to predict the future from current chatter isnt really all that new, or exclusive to Google and the CIA.

Their interest just lends the idea some credibility, as I see it.


I don't think anyone should be able to try to predict the future by data mining the internet . This is WAY too much information to trust to anyone. !!

They can spot trends no one else has knowledge about and use that information for their own ends. They will always be able to see the trends so they can fine tune their strategy, making manipulation of the masses that much earlier with a probable outcome in their favor.

This IS Big Brother at it's worst.

[edit on 29-7-2010 by JohnPhoenix]



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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I am begining to think that I could find many many reasons to include such terms into my emails.

How many emails and telephone converstions can all this equiptment handle.

I would suspect, if a concerted effort were mounted, the whole system could be so overwelmed they would be forced to limit their "snooping" to some real terrorest and leave common citizens alone.

I have nothing to hide from anyone who can show me they have a valid reason to know what I am doing. Just don't let me catch someone checking to make sure I am doing the things they think I should be doing.

I also thought that the CIA charter prohibited their operations within the USA.

I was also unaware of their having "an investment arm" but I guess they need something to do with all that drug money.

[edit on 29-7-2010 by hdutton]



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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Change the system to a Resource Based Economy and these behaviours will slowly diminish, change the envinronment you change the behaviours.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by free_spirit_earth
Change the system to a Resource Based Economy and these behaviours will slowly diminish, change the envinronment you change the behaviours.


Your tooooo late


LonMark International


Say cheese



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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Well, we are assuming it works, of course. Astrologers, Tarot card readers, etc., have long been trying to do the same.

It may be "too much power" for people to be able to do that. But that depends on whether or not the future is fixed or if it is changable. If it is fixed, or determined, knowing in advance cant change anything. If its not fixed, knowing in advance might actually change the outcome, and thus make it impossible to really know the future.

World leaders and power mongers, captains of industry, etc., have long tried to get the jump on the competition with soothsayers and psychics and oracles. I just see this as the electronic version of the same thing.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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Here ya go folks,

If you like Google Chrome but feel that it is a tool of the establishment to capture your data, you can try SRWARE'S browser called IRON.

www.srware.net...


SRWare Iron: The browser of the future - based on the free Sourcecode "Chromium" - without any problems at privacy and security

Google's Web browser Chrome thrilled with an extremely fast site rendering, a sleek design and innovative features. But it also gets critic from data protection specialists , for reasons such as creating a unique user ID or the submission of entries to Google to generate suggestions. SRWare Iron is a real alternative. The browser is based on the Chromium-source and offers the same features as Chrome - but without the critical points that the privacy concern.

From the FAQ

Can i really check that Iron doesn't submit any private data, how you say?

Yes, you can. There are tools like Wireshark, which scan the whole network-traffic. We could not recognize any obvious activity. But you can proof this by yourself.
PS: We also disabled the DNS-Precaching by default, because this could perhaps used by spammers



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by JohnPhoenix
 


Well, we are assuming it works, of course. Astrologers, Tarot card readers, etc., have long been trying to do the same.

World leaders and power mongers, captains of industry, etc., have long tried to get the jump on the competition with soothsayers and psychics and oracles. I just see this as the electronic version of the same thing.



I disagree in that this is a different type of trying to predict the future.

Spotting trends with accurate data from such a source as large as the internet will be pretty reliable if analyzed correctly as opposed to Astrologers, Tarot card readers, etc. They wont really be able to predict the future with this data but rather manipulate the future better than they ever have before. It will give them an edge.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
They wont really be able to predict the future with this data but rather manipulate the future better than they ever have before. It will give them an edge.


That might be true. I think the internet in general has given them a lot of tools for manipulating us more effectively. (Such as being able to read our thoughts like a focus group on boards such as ATS, in order to target propaganda more effectively)

We just have to get smarter too. If they are aggregating searches, (Im not sure how they do what) we can alter our behavior online to make it harder for them to do so. IE; make x amount of ridiculous searches or posts a day, or something.

Anything they can do with the data, we can counter with disinfo just like they do. If we have the smarts and the will to do so.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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good stuff, OP

this comes as no surprise at all to me. i posted recently about google's android OS and the sinister capabilites of it at www.abovetopsecret.com... ...

...basically, we should all take a step back and have a good look at how deeply google is infiltrating our online (and offline) activities. and the "cloud" concept.. we all managed ok so far storing data, and with memory capabilities expanding exponentially, WHY do we need to hand over custody of potentially sensitive and valuable data to faceless corporate monoliths like them?

think... how much info about you (us) does google have access to already?

soon, google will (for all intents and purposes) BE the internet...

"DON'T BE EVIL" they say.... well, to me that stinks of 1984-style newspeak, ie essentially meaning the exact opposite...why couldn't the motto be along the lines of "BE KIND AND GOOD!" or "LOVE EVERYONE" or "SPREAD THE LOVE!" or whatever - something vaguely positive..... as it is, the subtext is "we are the antidote to evil! we are nice, we care about you, you can trust us" etc etc.... does anyone think, on reading google's motto, "dammit! i never thought of that, i was going to be totally evil until google came into my life!"

i just hope their whole infrastructure gets fried by a solar flare or something, which is the thought that prompted me to ask this -> www.abovetopsecret.com...

seems to me, as things stand at this point in time, google IS big brother..

PLUR

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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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Thanks, Wheresthetruth, important info for widest dissemination.

SeaWind



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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You know what? That's just megacreepy. The future. Right. Thanks for posting the video.

I refuse to install chrome and rarely use Google anymore for anything of relevance I firmly believe but have not yet proved it is outright blocking some searches and also there are some very strange things happening where the stories you think it's linking to are more and more often absolutely not related to the keywords you've entered.

The main results page will say the link contains the keywords, and the descriptive paragraph agrees, but when you click the link, the page contains neither. If you hover the link it says one thing but then you get redirected to some weird sites (aside from ad sites). Started tracking this just last week because it was driving me nuts, and sure enough in a day I had three solid examples. Then the next day it didn't work that way on two of them.

I also believe either they installed a huge batch of spyware or something a few months back, somehow related to Google analytics. Either that or someone hacked them bad and they didn't find it forever. Things were all over the board crazy for about two months.


thats never happend to me once. maybe its your computer?



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
 

You know what? That's just megacreepy. The future. Right. Thanks for posting the video.

I refuse to install chrome and rarely use Google anymore for anything of relevance I firmly believe but have not yet proved it is outright blocking some searches and also there are some very strange things happening where the stories you think it's linking to are more and more often absolutely not related to the keywords you've entered.

The main results page will say the link contains the keywords, and the descriptive paragraph agrees, but when you click the link, the page contains neither. If you hover the link it says one thing but then you get redirected to some weird sites (aside from ad sites). Started tracking this just last week because it was driving me nuts, and sure enough in a day I had three solid examples. Then the next day it didn't work that way on two of them.

I also believe either they installed a huge batch of spyware or something a few months back, somehow related to Google analytics. Either that or someone hacked them bad and they didn't find it forever. Things were all over the board crazy for about two months.


thats never happend to me once. maybe its your computer?



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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in this age of consumerism i feel like an indentured servant working off a never ending debt to some kind of control freak feudal lord on a strange and alien concrete farm. at night when the work is done we go back to our crumbling dilapidated homes get down on our knees and pray to the sam walton mcgods to release us from our bonds of urban desolation and corporate servitude. all the while forever hoping that one day the starbucks savior will come back down to save us from the terrible thirst we suffer day and night for celebrity news. what????



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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To address the issue of privacy in search, try Ixquick

Ixquick

I can only assume this is true, until otherwise proven wrong, but here is a posted award that they have. Perhaps someone in Europe can validate this or deny it.


On July 14th, 2008 Ixquick was awarded the first European Privacy Seal. Ixquick is now the first and only EU-approved search engine.
~ source


I apologize if this seems like a self-hyping, but here is a link to a fantastical write up that I did one night while back based on my research of in-use tech that this new programming could take huge advantage of.


Raise your hand if you have used Google during the evolution of this topic to find more links or search for more information? Really? That many of you? tsk tsk



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by tristar
Your tooooo late

LonMark International

Say cheese



That has nothing to do with a complete system change it is still framed within the preset guidelines of the monetary system, you will get the same symptoms, same patchwork, on a hamster wheel going no where.





[edit on 29/7/10 by free_spirit_earth]



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

Also the new Opera is claiming to be the fastest with new redesigned java and image engines and built in tools like Turbo Boost : www.opera.com...

But the question remains.. are these secure?


Opera really sucks now on on privacy concerns.

Geolocation services (latest version includes GPS terrible for privacy)
Opera Unite (built in file sharing collaboration bad for privacy)
turbo is a proxy (logs can be tracked)


Ixquick.com claims to be a non-snooping non-logging search engine.



posted on Jul, 30 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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The key to this is the involvement of In-Q-Tel, which is the VC arm of the CIA. There has always been skepticism about Google's ties to US Gov't spy agencies. Well, here you go. Publicly and openly announced. Google is in bed with the spies. NSA, CIA, White House, NASA...(repeated from my OP because it makes all the difference).

Here are a couple of videos shot during his presidential campaign at Google's main office in Mt View.

Here, he talks about open internet and the importance of keeping it open and free.


The next is a repackaging of speech points that target a goal to improve and expand technology.


All of that big talk about transparency and change. Now, we have a Kill Switch, and now they have a tech that makes predictive analysis about something you "might" do.

For those of you behind this tech because of its commercial offerings and the fact that big business will use it to target consumers, you are blinded by the fact that this is a ruse. There are always two ways to use technology. Atomic energy was used commercially, but look what happened to Japan. Nuclear energy has commercial uses, but look what could happen it someone were to attack the US point blank. GPS is distributed commercially for people to use, but I guarantee that if one of the Alphabet groups wanted to find you, they could.

Dont think for a minute that the commercialization of such a technology is available to the consumer in its full form. The government has the full version, you have something far more stripped down and simplified.

[edit on 30-7-2010 by wheresthetruth]

[edit on 30-7-2010 by wheresthetruth]



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