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Resolution Green-Lighting Israeli Strikes on Iran Introduced by House Republicans

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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81

we the people ...know so well of whats coming ahead .. and we cant do *beep* (except watching it on TV like its a war movie)
and makind threads about it on ATS


I agree that we know what's coming. But I might want to differ just a bit on what we can do about it.

As American citizens who are in the know (I give all ATS members this credit by simply coming here) to as much of an extent as possible, we have a duty to contact our state representatives and voice our dissent.

We can make our voices heard.

Whether that will change the outcome or it is truly an exercise in futility is another matter. At least you will have tried.

Now for part two of what we can do and some here might think that I'm a crackpot/fearmonger for saying this but I will anyway:

Quietly begin stocking up on water, canned goods, batteries, lighters, fuel, candles, instruments for cutting wood, etc. Most important of all is not to forget the water!

I know that the second part sounds alarmist as WW3 might never happen and God I hope it doesn't. But we all know here that (as has been pointed out previously on this very thread by another member) most of congress is fielded by bought out Zionists these days so the possibility seems probable.


Also, if they start a draft and wish to take your siblings and loved ones away just remember this.... You do not have to be DRAFTED! You can refuse. All you have to do is refuse to raise your right hand and step forward. Do not say the oath! Yes you will be jailed for a period of time. But you will not have blood on your hands and you will not be shot in some barren desert fighting for madmen at the very least.

So I believe us sane humans still have several options at our disposal.

Please allow me to appologize if this post came off as a little dramatic as this was not my intent but only to state that we are not truly screwed if the poop hits the fan.



[edit on 29-7-2010 by warequalsmurder]



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:08 AM
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if you didnt understand my statement..
you approve any killing by US marines
but dont approve when the other side shoots back
DUDE THIS IS WAR
AN ILLEGAL WAR MADE BY BUSH &Cie

the US gov is killing their own US marines with this illegal war (of hidden interrests) and when they return home .. they suffer from PTSD
and are left crumbled alone on US streets .. a big % are homeless right now

Millions of Irakians were murdered in the street and have no burial
they are shredd appart each day with those UAV big bombs

so you do approve the Irak and afghanistan war .. DO YOU ???
answer that and then you can go ignoring me for good if you say yes
your weakmind was lost by the negative media brainwashing effect
i pity you but i will not disrespect you



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:13 AM
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NEVER MIND THE MESSENGER LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE!! THIS IS TRULY WHATS GOING ON.....

Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 29-7-2010 by Gemwolf]



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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Didn't Saudi Arabia green-light IDF airforces to cross their airspace for bombnig Iran also?

*sigh*

You'd think we'd have given up on this whole "hating each other" thing by now.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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It seems they need some sort of legal push to authorize assisting Israel in the future attack on Iranian sites...


Here is your (Democrat) support:

Don't Expect Democrats to Break With Israel


The Democrats are at risk of losing both houses of Congress this fall. No strategist in his right mind would tell them to shift focus away from their popular efforts on financial reform, unemployment relief, or letting gays serve openly in the military to pick this fight with the GOP. The Democrats side with Hamas against the only democracy in the Middle East? The RNC press releases would write themselves. The Democrats' relative strength has always been domestic issues. They never want to switch the debate to foreign policy in an election year. That's why they caved and pushed through George W. Bush's resolution on the use of force in Iraq in 2002, hoping to change the topic to more comfortable ground.


Hehe, and:


And that's beside the fact that leaders of the Democrats' congressional strategy such as Sen. Charles Schumer and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel are noted Israel supporters, and so are many important Democratic donors in New York and California.


Israel has Bipartisan support!


Given the bipartisan nature of Israel's support in Congress, the obligatory left-versus-right debate that frames every partisan issue does not get placed on this one.


Nice try!



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
SO TELL ME.....

why NOT SINGLE ONE OF YOU have any problems whatsoever

with iran aiding,training,selling arms THAT ARE KILLING AMERICANS and have KILLED AMERICANS IN iraq and afghanistan for years.

WHY?
WHY?

theres been ample proof of this and:

you say nothing
you do nothing

AMERICANS ARE DYING!!!!!! yeah you can sit there safe and sound in your own little worlds and piss on crap on the us military.

noones shooting at you setting off ieds. and every last one on run your mouths with no end in sight.

i dont care wether your anti war or not THE FACT REMAINS.

AMERICANS ARE DYING AND IRAN IS HELPING OTHERS TO DO IT.

how can you just sit there? how can you not be outraged

i cant believe those people even are fighting for your worthless #####

good for isreal i hope iran gets whats comming to them and needed to be given to them for a long time.


I can understand your rage and frustrations, of people not supporting a war against Iran, while Iran is helping and financing terrorism on a global stage, killing fellow americans and other humans in the world.

However, was it Iran as a nation guilty of it or was it just the illegal leadership that usurp and made a farce of democracy to remain in the throne?

US has its fair share of organised drug and Mafia cartels peddling porn and drugs to American youths, destroying lives and families as well as to the world. Thus is US guilty or the D@M cartels? Should US be destroyed as a nation or just the D@M cartels?

A war with the soveriegn nation of Iran will be the destruction of millions of innocent lives, whom will be pushed and shoved to stand beside the illegitimate rulers to protect their loved ones, as well as inspiring other radicals in the world to take pot shots at other innocents around the world by the thousands with claims to a 'religious war' and 'persecution of muslims'.

It will become a war of epic proportions on a global scale, made worse when oil supply is cut off as other nations that need that economic resource to fuel their productions They too will join in as 3rd parties, but on one side, and it may not be on the side of the US.

I know that perhaps you may be young and confused by it all, offering your lives to save and protect country and people, getting shot at daily, watching your buddies guts spilling out, little thanks but instead get flak by others not supporting yours or Israel stand's and thus do not see the bigger picture at play, but so did our fathers during the senseless Vietnam war.....



War and violence is not and never the solution for Afghanistan and Iran. US must do what the Germans and Japs did after WW2 - instead of military occupation, go for economic occupation, safer and much welcomed as provened by the Krauts and Japs, joined later by other nations till they all got too greedy and cause our financial disaster of today.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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The U.S. and Israel have been positioning their chess pieces for awhile now, and more so in the past month or two. It is all a matter of when at this point, not if. This will be the start of the biblical 'Armageddon' because this is what the TPTB want.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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Once again WAKE UP

A world war is coming and it will happen...as previous stated...the chess pieces are being put in place.

the question is...what are the sheep going to do to stop it.

Are we going to blindly follow the media machine or are we going to come together (after it has started) and fight for a better world.

we are not going to stop it from starting....but we can decide how it will end.

now we can do one of two things as we watch our friends and family's die ,turn on each other and watch as the world falls to pieces.

I am talking about all sides of the battle.

or we can come together as human beings and learn that we have all been duped and take out the leader who wants all this so that they can have ultimate control.

learn that the one who says..."I HAVE BROUGHT YOU PEACE"

Is the very one who is the one who orchastrated the whole process.

"I have created this war to show you the way"

simple thing really.....Don't be fooled



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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This is a usa-israel war alliance, and should be met by the rest of the world as an illegal military operation.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:19 AM
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Good heads up on something that was inevitable. If there is one thing this war will bring, it's hardcore shock and awe on the american people. If anyone still believes Iran does not have nukes, they are complete fools. 20-30 confirmed nukes vanished from the former USSR during the collapse. Seeing Iran was a soviet ally it only makes sense some of them made it there.

Israel and US will attack their sites. We will miss 20-30% of their nukes. Iran will respond with attacks on our vessels in the Gulf. That crazy ajmenezaasjasjad will lob a nuke at our men in Iraq or Afganistan. Things will spiral out of control from there. Who knows where it will go. After 20,000 US military die over a few weeks, the climate in this country will turn to mass unrest. Hence why I am making preperations.

Take it from an 8 year military vet, this is inevitable. Refer to WW2. Most thought that would never happen. Also research our aggressive actions related to Russia. My rant will end here.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by plumranch
Israel has Bipartisan support!


Given the bipartisan nature of Israel's support in Congress, the obligatory left-versus-right debate that frames every partisan issue does not get placed on this one.


Nice try!


Good find.

One side is pointing a handful of matches at the other and screaming "arson." They're both in on it. Don't get caught up in the left/right BS. If this is going to get as big as some seem to think, now is not the time to allow ourselves to be pitted against one another.


TheAssoc.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Noooooooooooo!

Luc
I am in total agreement with ya
on that one. This is a mistake.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
AMERICANS ARE DYING AND IRAN IS HELPING OTHERS TO DO IT.

No
Americans are dying because of other
dis-loyal Americans called the CIA, Mossad and
TPTB.

Don't blame us True Patriotic Americans
for these wars or this upcoming attack.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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::sighs:: these lizards are all war wacky. Its the contination of the crusade wars. Will it ever end?
In the 20th century-21st century alone we had World war I, they called it the great war.
Then world war II. They called it the war to end all wars. fat chance. Then the korean conflict. Congress never officially declared it a war even though over a 100,000 us servicemen & women died. Then we had the
Vitnam War. Then the long cold war, which never became a Hot war. The bombings over libya, reducing beriut to a pile of rubble. The 3 isreali wars.
Fakland island war. Grenada, panama, somalia. Tons of civil wars in afriaca. Iran-Iraq war. Afganistan vs USSR. Three conflict between pakistan & india. The bosnia War or the forgotten war. First & 2nd Gulf wars. 2006 isreali conflict against lebese/hezbolla. The new afganistan war the so-called war on terror....and I probably missed a few.

My point is haven't enough people died in the last 110 years to wet the appetites of the war-wacky lizard overlords? Or it won't be enough until only 500 million exist and the rest of the world population are radioactive?

Sooner or later the people have to say NO MORE WARS....

And just have PEACE.

Probably never happen but one can still dream.




posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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I made a statement a while back about this very thing. Its in a BP Oil spill thread that I cant find right now. When they moved all of those ships around under the guises of clearing them out of Oil infested waters at the beginning of hurricane season, I said it. They have Iran surrounded. The warships are moved strategically to protect the US homeland from other nations. Israel has moved forces into Saudi. The time is close and now at hand for them to create a reason to strike a nation that does not want to fight, but will fight. With the Gulf sealed off and Allied forces on all sides, a strike against Iran would be a devasting blow to what remains of the middle east. It would also be a strike against Russia and China, since Iran would soon lose control of the flow of energy that both of those nations count on.

Mark it down. This is the beginning of a global catastrophic event that will affect every person on this planet and change her face forever.


All I want to know is, how do I get off this sickening rollercoaster? Where's my Hitchhikers Guide and Ring. This entire freakin planet has gone in-[explitive]-sane.

There is no more will of the people. There is no more government of/by/for the people. There are only tyrants and warlords and dictators. Almost every governing body on this planet is now in hock to the banking system and almost every politician on the planet has sold out their country.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:29 AM
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Ok, sorry for posting twice in a row, but this is a totally different review of the post.

I just finished reading HR1553. I thought we were supposed to be the paranoid conspiracy theorist nutjobs. Now, the politicians in the House have written a bill authorizing use of force based on out of context statements and about as much factual evidence as there was of WMDs in Iraq.

This will not require a false flag. It has been waved. It was done when those idiots on the Hill opened their mouths and began to speak.

The wording in the bill even made me stop and cringe and the basis for its authority nearly knocked me out of my chair. They are blatantly and obviously and openly just spouting rhetoric and nonsense because they are absolutely sure that no American or Allied citizen is going to pay attention or stand up.

If I had the means, I would lead a march on Washington to oppose this as the will of the people and do everything short of firing a shot to force them to repeal this.

Stupid Stupid Stupid!!!



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 04:44 AM
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Sure, they work FOR Israel.



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 05:03 AM
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If we vote left-wing... Socialism.

If we vote right-wing... Theocracy.

Who can we vote for that would actually help and defend what America is supposed to be about?



posted on Jul, 29 2010 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by IamBoon
Who can we vote for that would actually help and defend what America is supposed to be about?


Ron Paul - Libertarian

do I need a 2nd?



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