Economic World War: Technocratic Plutocrat Elites vs. The People (visual aid overload)

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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reply to post by truthquest
 


Trying to cut out the gubmint from the revenue stream?
Naughty naughty!
They impute the value and tax based on their interpretation. It's in there, somewhere. No economic activity on the downlow will be tolerated.
You have to ask yourself who'd do that and why? And after that, what would they NOT do?
How people continue to avoid the reality that there is no acceptable way out under pain of imprisonment and a functional death!
Nope, none.




posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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That's "high frequency trading":



Total cheating.

'70% of the trading is done by 2% of the participants'.

That's stage 1 of the what technology is poised to do to us. Newt Gingrich, technocrat elitist, acknowledges this:


Those countries that ignore these patterns of change will fall further behind and find themselves weaker, poorer, and more vulnerable than their wiser, more change-oriented neighbors.

www.wtec.org...

He totally embraces the 'god' technologies in that document.


[edit on 28-7-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by truthquest
You mention "disaster capitalism" but in fact the merger between corporation and state is the definition of fascism, not capitalism. The blooming welfare state in the US is socialism. So, it does not make sense to me why you'd use the term capitalism when the US is not even considered an economically free country by the most complete investigator of the subject, the Heritage Foundation.


"Capitalize":
1. To use as or convert into capital.
www.thefreedictionary.com...

Like "capitalize' on a scenario or situation. They say that in competitive sports I believe.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:53 PM
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GOD has a special place reserved for the elites, and they know what it is called. HELL. They better hope they live a long life, cause they have a millennia of what is to come to them. I beleive a second revolution is comming and it will be even more bloodier than the first.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by truthquest


You mention "disaster capitalism" but in fact the merger between corporation and state is the definition of fascism, not capitalism. The blooming welfare state in the US is socialism. So, it does not make sense to me why you'd use the term capitalism when the US is not even considered an economically free country by the most complete investigator of the subject, the Heritage Foundation.



"Blooming welfare state?" What planet are you living on? The number of people receiving benefits has shrunk from nearly 6 percent in 1994 to a bit over 2 percent today.

You're EXACTLY the kind of person I was talking about in my post. It's too bad people are so ignorant. They can be easily manipulated. And frankly, you obviously have been.

BTW, the Heritage Foundation is a right wing joke. It was started by an ultra-right wack, Paul Weyrich, in the 1970s.

[edit on 28-7-2010 by ClintK]



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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Maybe so. but the great majority of decent, independent people are gonna be killed off first, and ironically by use of the money they sent in to gubmint to secure their safety.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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Maybe so. but the great majority of decent, independent people are gonna be killed off first, and ironically by use of the money they sent in to gubmint to secure their safety.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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That's exactly what they're trying to do:


They believe they'll live for over 700 years:

Peter H. Diamandis, 49, is a small man with a wide, bright smile and a thick mound of dark hair. He routinely holds meetings by cellphone and can usually be found typing away on his laptop. He went to medical school to make his mother happy but has always dreamed of heading to outer space.

He is also a firm believer in the Singularity and is a technocelebrity in his own right, primarily through his role in commercializing space travel. At a recent Singularity University lunch, he hopped up to make a speech peppered with passion and conviction.

“My target is to live 700 years,” he declared.

The students chuckled.

“I say that seriously,” he retorted.

NYTimes


www.nytimes.com...

[edit on 28-7-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by ClintK

Originally posted by truthquest


You mention "disaster capitalism" but in fact the merger between corporation and state is the definition of fascism, not capitalism. The blooming welfare state in the US is socialism. So, it does not make sense to me why you'd use the term capitalism when the US is not even considered an economically free country by the most complete investigator of the subject, the Heritage Foundation.



"Blooming welfare state?" What planet are you living on? The number of people receiving benefits has shrunk from nearly 6 percent in 1994 to a bit over 2 percent today.

You're EXACTLY the kind of person I was talking about in my post. It's too bad people are so ignorant. They can be easily manipulated. And frankly, you obviously have been.


Aparrently you have never been to detroit, where 80% are on some sort of aid.
Only 2% on aid? Didja get that from elvis? Easter bunny? WHo?



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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To get one world govt we the people, the ones who aren't plutocrats, have to be equalised so the economy works smoothly and to the plutocrats benefit, so all of us suckers in the "developed" world have to lose our wealth and expectations a huge economic depression will do this.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by mordant1


Aparrently you have never been to detroit, where 80% are on some sort of aid.
Only 2% on aid? Didja get that from elvis? Easter bunny? WHo?


Wow. 80 percent on welfare? How do they do it? I'm sure that figure is accurate.


Look, at least read and be informed before you post.

www.neoperspectives.com...

Wait. Never mind. It involves lots of words. And facts and figures. Evidently you're too young to remember the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:23 PM
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I can't fathom where you're getting these 2% numbers from. You might consider taking a real good hard look at the counters on this amazing site:
www.usdebtclock.org...

41 million people on food stamps? You call that 2%?



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:26 PM
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It summary, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Isn't that the Utopian wet dream for capitalists though?

The global elite are the idols worshiped by the masses on Wall Street.

These same global elite have convinced their slaves to cry "Socialists!" or "Communists!" at those who feel all this wealth should be redistributed across the population in the form of taxes, public projects, socialized medicine.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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I can't fathom where you're getting these 2% numbers from. You might consider taking a real good hard look at the counters on this amazing site:
www.usdebtclock.org...

41 million people on food stamps? You call that 2%?



Why not go to the link? I don't see what's so hard. And there are lots of others.

BTW, that link you posted is BS -- it's notorious for misinformation.

[edit on 28-7-2010 by ClintK]



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:26 PM
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Uh YAYUSS!
80%.
YOUR game is what's "aid" and excluding aid you feel you can call something else. Homey wont play. Aide is a gummint check or tax credit, foodstamps free care, free housing etc. all of it. If they didnt earn it with a job, then it's gummint AID stolen at threat of force from someone who did earn it.
Most everyone I know is on some sort of aid and your sophistry will not change that



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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There is no capitalism without the poor.
It is systemic.
Totally dystopia.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by ClintK

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
reply to post by ClintK
 


I can't fathom where you're getting these 2% numbers from. You might consider taking a real good hard look at the counters on this amazing site:
www.usdebtclock.org...

41 million people on food stamps? You call that 2%?



Why not go to the link? I don't see what's so hard. And there are lots of others.

BTW, that link you posted is BS -- it's notorious for misinformation.

[edit on 28-7-2010 by ClintK]



Care to back up that claim?

How is it "BS" ??

It's dead on.

You're in denial.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
There is no capitalism without the poor.
It is systemic.
Totally dystopia.




Did commynism get rid of being poor or simply make everyone not in gubmint poor?

The poor we always have with us, and nothing makes them go away. EVER.
THe fact that being poor is relative means it is not important in determinining the value of a system of govt. The poor need the capacity to become producers, not consumers. One doesnt grant production it has to be internalized



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by mordant1
reply to post by ClintK
 


Uh YAYUSS!
80%.
YOUR game is what's "aid" and excluding aid you feel you can call something else. Homey wont play. Aide is a gummint check or tax credit, foodstamps free care, free housing etc. all of it. If they didnt earn it with a job, then it's gummint AID stolen at threat of force from someone who did earn it.
Most everyone I know is on some sort of aid and your sophistry will not change that


You're living in a delusional world, but that's okay. Lots of people here on ATS do the same thing.

Haven't seeny anything --at all-- to support this "blooming welfare state" you insist we have.

ALL the facts support the idea that such assistance is declining. It's very clear, it doesn't require high intelligence to see it, it's a well known fact (except to people who get their info from the Heritage Foundation, evidently), and frankly you're embarrasing yourself.

FACT: There is a much smaller percentage of people on welfare now that there was in the mid-1990s.

That's a FACT.

Okay?

FACT.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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No denial.

You've chosen to change the word from government aid to welfare recipients in order to fit your skewed view. What have you to say about the 40+ million on food stamps? So many new applicants that they're having trouble processing it? The 7x raise in limit for weeks of unemployment benefits? Perhaps there's less welfare these days because it's being hidden by other programs ?? DUH !!





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