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URGENT: Japanese tanker explodes near Strait of Hormuz

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posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 01:23 PM
"Explosion" : caused by crew negligence.

"Flash of light" : cover story concocted so the crewmen don't lose their jobs.

posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 12:25 AM
Here is the real answer.Suicide bomber.

posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 07:18 AM
It is apparent that some ATS members would like to know about what caused the M\Star Tanker damage. While many labor in logic, I came up with my theory about two hours after seeing the damage photos of the M\Star on day one of the story.

I have a theory of exactly what caused the damage and if you don't want to read my rhetoric rant about it, at least look at the picture that in my mind explains what caused the damage.

The fact the Navy and others investigated and turned up puzzled and or baffled at what could have been the cause, is enough reason to take a look. I never expected them to truthfully admit what it really was anyway, I just needed them to deny the truth before deciding to release my theory.

While I realize as proof goes, there is none, but if you follow my logic you will see why I theorize as I do. Take a look. Looking at real probable cause should be what everyone wants, but I know it will only anger all those pundits that believe that Iran or pirates did it. Well, they didn't.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Take a look and begin to understand in your mind what did the damage. While no theory of this kind can be proven without the evidence, I doubt seriously that such a task could be proven by conventional means. As such, I offer this theory and will leave the subject matter for more current matters of importance that return me to BP gulf activities.

Take a look. I personally think my theory is exactly what damaged the M\Star tanker. Once you get past that small hurdle, it begins to formulate the question of whether the act was intentional or if was accidental. Moving on with the possibility of Russian Cosmospheres having done the damage would be a good position to take until proven otherwise.

posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 09:41 AM
reply to post by 12voltz

Doubts as Qaeda group claims Japan tanker blast

By Erika Solomon

DUBAI, Aug 4 (Reuters) - A militant group linked to al Qaeda said on Wednesday a suicide bomber was responsible for a mystery explosion on a Japanese supertanker a week ago near the Strait of Hormuz but analysts cast doubt on the claim.

The crew of the M.Star reported a blast shortly after midnight last Wednesday, injuring one seaman but causing no oil spill or disruption to shipping in the strategic waterway.

The incident sparked theories ranging from a freak wave to a collision with a U.S. nuclear submarine.

Independent verification was not immediately available for the claim, which was signed by a "battalion" of the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, posted with a photo of the alleged suicide bomber on a website used by Islamist militants.

"The martyrdom-seeking hero Ayyub al-Taishan ... blew himself up in the Japanese tanker M.Star," the statement said.

Link (for more)

A rather delayed claim of responsibility from a group whose claims to carrying out attacks are often reportedly dubious.

Tbh, the group claiming responsibility have a reported history of claiming responsibility for attacks when they were carried out by other groups, so perhaps they were trying to get some credibility for claiming to behind this incident.

But if true, what they claim, it may have been a ploy to get the West and Iran to fight each other.

Iran and Al Qaeda hate each other.

Al Qaeda hates the West.... get your enemies to fight each other.

Or perhaps they were given the support to do so, to be then blamed on Iran. The operation fails because the ship was not badly damaged and nobody killed, so they claim responsibility to cover up a failed false flag incident.

posted on Aug, 4 2010 @ 05:56 PM
reply to post by Regensturm

The group explains the delay here with this quote
"We delayed the publication of the statement until our heroes returned safely to their bases."This suggests more than one and not a suicide mission.

Now this is just words and talk is cheap,but i do like your theory it does make a lot of sense.

[edit on 4-8-2010 by 12voltz]

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 05:01 AM
reply to post by 12voltz

As a follow-up to this:

Attack caused damage to Japan tanker -UAE agency

From the link:

Attack caused damage to Japan tanker -UAE agency

Source: Reuters
DUBAI, Aug 6 (Reuters) - Investigators probing a reported blast on a Japanese supertanker near the Strait of Hormuz last week found remains of homemade explosives and have blamed the incident on a "terrorist attack", the United Arab Emirates state news agency reported on Friday.

"An examination carried out by specialised teams had confirmed that the tanker had been the subject of a terrorist attack," the agency said, quoting an unidentified coastguard source.



Damaged Japanese tanker departs UAE port -sources

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 05:09 AM
reply to post by Regensturm

Home made explosives ,if this has any truth to it then maybe there was someone in the closet but" terrorist attack" is a pretty broad term ,lets hope they give away a few more details soon.

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 06:44 AM

Originally posted by PuterMan
This looks like it has been caused by an explosion AT A DISTANCE from the hull, i.e. not something striking the hull.

From page 12. Respect to PuterMan

If they are now finding explosive residue, i think it perfectly logical to assume the following:

mr bomber climbed on his hired wooden boat ... saying to himself:
"... ah gonna get me one of them tankas", rowed/puttered out to the shipping channel, and waited for the next ship to come along.
He had a small explosive charge which MAY have been enough to damage the tanker, if it had been attached to the hull.
I'm guessing he tried to nail the aft end in the assumption that it would be deadlier than exploding at the front.
The ship's wash would have pushed him away, being night perhaps he didn't realise how far away? Maybe he didn't understand how close he had to be?

This hypothesis covers the following facts:

1: apparent scorch marks on the red paint
2: symmetrically applied force to the ship's hull
3: lack of peculiar dents/scrapes
4: sudden unexpected explosion just above the waterline, with no immediate radar/sonar evidence

It must have been a big boom, because it took out a liferaft, several storeys above the waterline (!)

The only "evidence" unaccounted for is the flash, which could or not be connected, but we could assume that it was the final "OK" from his commanders?

I don't think this was a false flag, but i believe this was a true "terrorist attack", and a sign of the times in the area, an inevitable event.

[edit on 6-8-2010 by harryhaller]

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 11:47 AM
Something I havent seen mentioned here, what if this is a warning from Iran to the US?

I understand they have an affinity for Asymmetrical warfare tactics, as they do not have the military capacity to carry out conventional attacks at sea (or defense for that matter)

But a flotilla of small boats (Dhow's) armed with explosives, in the dark of night, may have a chance of taking out a few tankers.

Small wooden craft are difficult to spot on radar, and this act would get the attention of the US naval forces in the area.

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 04:33 PM
reply to post by ErEhWoN

What is the warning?That we are pretty useless when it comes to blowing stuff up.Wouldnt it have been more effective to lob some grenades down a ventilation shaft.Why anyone would claim responsibility for this is beyond me.

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 04:38 PM
Why does the phrase :
"Derka derka mohammad jihad" come to mind on this one?

posted on Aug, 6 2010 @ 05:31 PM
reply to post by 12voltz

What is the warning?

If you attack us, we will send a flotilla of hundreds of suicide boats to disrupt or stop commerce on this most important waterway in the world.

It would get my attention.

posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 08:48 AM
Now why would the Iranians, Muslims or Al CIAda attack a Japanese Tanker?

Oh wait, I know!
The Japanese wanted the US Military to leave Japan .
The Islamies hate that, they want the US army in every country...
They are kinda wierd that way...just like North Korea, they sank the Chousan just to scare the Japanese into keeping the US military bases in Japan....
Of course, the US prolly needs the oil in that tanker at their Japanese base, or it is insured or the oil is owned by a US company so they near missed it.
so as not to spoil the oil.

[edit on 7-8-2010 by Danbones]

posted on Aug, 7 2010 @ 09:04 PM
this might be an attack this could get very bad.

posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 01:44 PM
UAE confirms terror link to Hormuz tanker attack

"UAE explosives experts who collected and examined samples found a dent on the starboard side above the water line and remains of home-made explosives on the hull," according to a statement released by the Arab nation’s news agency WAM.

"An examination carried out by specialized teams had confirmed that the tanker had been the subject of a terrorist attack," the statement said, citing an unnamed coast guard official.

A spokesman for the US Navy's Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain and patrols the strait, said it was aware of the reports of explosive residue found on the Japanese tanker and that US Navy experts were in contact with Emirati officials to discuss the findings.

A cautious article only referring to home made explosives.
Not like that one not shy to introduce speedboats.

Report: Japanese tanker hit by suicide speedboat

Japan's Mitsui OSK Lines said the M. Star oil tanker exploded on July 29 near the Strait of Hormuz, dominated by Iran. The UAE Coast Guard has concluded that an explosion that damaged the Japanese tanker was the result of a speedboat filled with explosives. Officials said the speedboat rammed into the M. Star tanker on July 29 in the Strait of Hormuz in the territorial waters of Oman.

I guess we are moving closer to the official story.
There are still weak points. We have this claim of an attack by a suicide bomber which is not credible. Now the attack was done using speedboats but nobody has claimed the attack yet.

Thinking about it again, I have real problems with an attack using boats so far from the coast. It's difficult to conduct properly. Since you're willing to die to make your point why going through the hassle of tracking down a tanker on the high seas when you could simply blow up a ship in a harbour or near a harbour. Isn't it way easier ?
It's still possible. We were never told where the ship was exactly.
I will wait avidly for the next clue we will be given by the MSM. Where were those speedboats supposedly coming from ?

Do you find credible that boats could have attacked the tanker with the crew never taking notice of those close by boats ? Not even after the attack ?
For sure, immediately after the explosion, they inspected the damage of course. And they sure scanned the sea for clues of what might have happened. Is it really possible they missed indications of sinking boats ?

posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 07:51 AM
Suspect ship seen before Japan tanker blast -media

From the link:

Suspect ship seen before Japan tanker blast -media

17 Aug 2010 05:05:23 GMT
Source: Reuters
TOKYO, Aug 17 (Reuters) - The radar of a Japanese supertanker that was damaged by an explosion near the Strait of Hormuz last month showed a small ship making suspicious movements near it at the time of the incident, Japanese public broadcaster NHK said on Tuesday.

Checks of the radar showed the suspicious ship left the area at high speed immediately afterwards, NHK said. The explosion, shortly after midnight on July 28, injured one seaman but caused no oil spill or disruption to shipping in the strategic waterway.

NHK said Japan's Transport Ministry believes there is a possibility the small ship launched an attack.

A militant group called Abdullah Azzam Brigades, linked to al Qaeda, claimed on Aug. 4 that a suicide bomber belonging to it had attacked the tanker.

Security analysts were sceptical of the group's claim, though the United Arab Emirates state news agency said investigators had found traces of explosives on the tanker.


And Iran will be blamed in 5, 4, 3, 2....

This may be used to send more US and/or NATO warships to the region, under the pretext of to protect "international shipping" and build up military forces while doing so.

Nicely placed for an attack on Iran.

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