You, are HUMAN CAPITAL, by William J Clinton

Ever wonder what your leaders think of you?

Well I came across a video that peaked my interest on the YouTube.

Executive Order 13037

National Register, Archives, Executive Orders

Executive Order 13037

The appropriate definition of capital for Federal budgeting, including: use of capital for the Federal Government itself or the economy at large; ownership by the Federal Government or some other entity; defense and nondefense capital; physical capital and intangible or human capital; distinc- tions among investments in and for current, future, and retired workers; distinctions between capital to increase productivity and capital to enhance the quality of life; and existing definitions of capital for budgeting;

Of course this is just a snippet of the information buried in all these government documents. Just another layer to the onion.

So, do you think the government thinks of you as citizens or as capital, assets to the system?

Here, an article pertaining to these type snippets that come out now and again what our government really thinks about us. The first part is from the site and then the others are from the article

Council on Domestic Relations
God Bless All the Little Children

From the introduction to the article-

During the Welfare Reform debates when the subject of children had been raised Congresswoman Pat Schroeder commented, "Our children should not even be part of this conversation. Our children are our greatest natural resource - not oil or coal - our children. Our investment in them today will pay off over and over again in the future. They are the taxpayers of tomorrow." The use of the word 'investment' should not be taken lightly. In Pennsylvania, the Act was titled Workforce Investment Act. This connotes the expected return on the 'investment' made by the STATE. Return on investment. Think about it. Please, think about it.

From the Article

Is Your Child Human Capital?

Yes, According to the Architects of the New Global Economy

By Cindy Weatherly

THE FEDERAL ACCOUNTING PROCESS

In March of 1984 I had the privilege of giving testimony supporting stringent regulations for the Pupil Privacy Act (the Hatch Amendment) which amended the General Education Provisions Act to offer protection from intrusive questioning, programs, and the record-keeping for parents and students.

Again, preparation for that testimony caused me to review the National Center for Educational Statistics' handbook series known as the "State Educational Records and Reports Series". Specifically, Handbook IIR - the Financial Accounting Handbook - alluded to a "unified accounting system" based on the process known as Planning, Programming and Budgeting System (PPBS) which was to be used by all school systems. PPBS involves mandated goals and constant adjustment of resources to ensure that goals are met... the system that is still in use today. In testifying, I drew a projected conclusion:

If our financial resource reporting is going to be unified by such a system, then are we not but a step away from unified goals for our educational outcomes? This is assuredly a step toward mandated national curriculum and interstate and interregional tax and financial management revisions... will we not soon be sharing tax resources from region to region as needed to `equalize' educational opportunities and programs deemed `exemplary` or in the`national interest to produce global- minded citizens?'

The longer I thought of "assessment" being the "value determined for tax purposes" and the possibility of cross-regional/state sharing of tax resources, the more concerned I became over the idea that the record-keeping and information-compiling might become so tied to the individual student that "assessment" might have a more malignant potential. We were talking about our children here.

At that point in time there was a growing emphasis on choice and vouchers/tuition tax credits in education. Since with the money flows the control, could this be part of the "assessment" picture? That would tie an individual student moving about in the "choice market" directly to a federal accounting process both financially and educationally due to national standards being proposed. No one seemed to be too worried about it in the 1980's, but it still bothered me.

Over a period of time I shared my concern with close associates -- if "assess" was to "assign a value for tax purposes", then why were we "assessing" children? A theory began to take root and grow in my mind: somehow we were going to allow children's potential worth to society to be measured, and their future life roles would somehow be measured, and their future life roles would be somehow projected, and they would be limited by that assigned worth. What a thought! Could this be possible in the United States [of America]?

Weren't we supposed to be concerned about the education of school children? This sounded a lot like literature which proposed "full employment" policies -- much like the billboards and signs plastered on public transportation and public buildings in Grenada -- "Work for everyone; everyone working!" -- before the U.S. invasion to overthrow their communist government.

You really have to read this article, from someone in the system that was asked to help with the work.

And so people do not think this is a Dem bash thread another snippet-

Newt Gingrich, the new Speaker of the House, introduced Toffler as his longtime friend and then sat quietly by to hear Toffler say that national sovereignty was a thing of the past and that he was an avowed secularist. These are the stripes of our new "conservative" future?

continued

Here, another snippet that really begins to piss me off-

The World Bank has just announced (Associated Press, "The Des Moines Register", 9/15/95) its new formula for estimating a nation's worth. Ismael Serageldin, World Bank vice president for environmentally sustainable development, stated in 'Monitoring Environmental Progress: A Report on Work in Progress' that the system "for the first time folds a country's people and its natural resources into its overall balance sheet."

While the World Bank projects that its new system of measuring wealth which "attempts to go beyond traditional gauges" and lists "Human Resources: value represented by people's productive capacity" (e.g. education, nutrition) will take years to perfect, I submit that our process of 'assessment' is a giant step in that direction.

Now, if you think this is just something new, you better start asking yourself, what EXACTLY is the difference between the two parties?

Also, those that do not believe that you are not a future money earner for your government and the world bank that controls your government. Please provide evidence of that and not just give your opinion.

All of this was found by just one little video posted on YouTube. Since it was only one of 30 items, maybe some of you should look up the other items in the video and see where they lead.



the video is currently unavailable so here is the link to it-

www.youtube.com...

The video name-30 Little Known Facts about America



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Its a great wake up call for those who don't realize the State see us as cattle to be milked for our labor and finally slaughtered at the end of our usefulness.

When the milk cows stop bearing milk, its time to put them out to pasture so to speak.

They have destroyed the socialist security fund that they imposed upon us at gun point. Your children will sweat till the day they die.

They have destroyed the socialist medicare fund that they imposed upon us at gun point. Your children will suffer in old age penniless, buying opiates from street dealers for their arthritis pain.

They have destroyed the savings of America by suppressing interest rates down to nothing. All the while gorging themselves on the flood of easy money, the intrest of which will be paid back in the blood and sweat of the tax payer.

They have looted the pension funds.

They have debased the currency.

They have instituted DECADES LONG WARS OF AGGRESSION against countries that posed no threat to us.

They have sent your children off to die protecting poppy fields in a wasteland.

They have turned the educational system into a laughable tragic comedy.

The endless crimes against us are to numerous to count, to numerous to mention.





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Good thread. I forget sometimes that people dont run across this kind of stuff all the time, but you bet your sweet patootie you are capital.

Take a look at how they evaluate people for immigration into the UK, for example. I had a friend try to immigrate, (his parents are from there) and when he showed me the forms it is very apparent.

What are your skills, your age, etc. You are being evaluated as a potential asset. (Maybe its different if you arent coming from the US, I dont know, but thats what they wanted to know about him)

Im surprised they didnt take his shirt off and look at his teeth.

I am however a bit surprised you are surprised. What did you think you were? Surely no one really believes your humanity, feelings, aspirations, and such matter, do they?

reply to post by mnemeth1


Hey, when the cattle do not realize that King George only asked his serfs for 1/3 of their labor and now the world bank and our puppet government wants 2/3, what else is their to say.

I really want someone to come on this thread and begin the debate.

I showed by this article and the executive order this plan has been in effect since the Reagan Era. By all the parties involved.

When will they awaken.

The sleeper must awaken.

One of my favorite book series, Dune. The Freman must awaken.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Not surprised, just surprised it was so blatant in the paperwork.

Of course, if we were to list the accumulation of just one year of governmental redtape paperwork, it would probably be a mountain the size of K2.

I am surprized that these things are out there and they have never been shown on the MSM. Wait a minute, what am I talking about.

Now, I am sure someone is going to come on here and say what I am talking about is just the government attempting to plan for resource management and all that jive. Very bad argument of course. But before it is used, if the world bank is using the human capital as a basis for evaluating the the ability of a country to pay loans, are they not then saying those people are mere slaves then to produce for the government that enslaves them?

This is why I am vehemently against any type of taxation on labor or property people own. We do not own property in the US, we rent it from our masters. If we owned the property or our own labor, we would NOT have to pay a tax on it. Period.

reply to post by endisnighe


They will wake up soon when their entire paycheck doesn't buy them a loaf of bread.

Of course, the statists will claim this is all the fault of greedy capitalists. They will blame freedom for why an entire paycheck doesn't buy a loaf of bread.

Never mind government is the one that controls the printing press.

Never mind government is the one that has the armed IRS agents.

Never mind government is the one that suppressed the interest rates.

Never mind government is the one that bailed out failing corporations and banks to the tune of 23.7 trillion dollars.

Never mind...

reply to post by mnemeth1


As long as you dont forget that the richest of the "capitalists" are the ones the government is acting at the behest of.

Nothing at all wrong with a free market, and I hope someday we actually have one. I dont see anything wrong with capitalism, until democracies start coming with price tags.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

As long as you dont forget that the richest of the "capitalists" are the ones the government is acting at the behest of.

Nothing at all wrong with a free market, and I hope someday we actually have one. I dont see anything wrong with capitalism, until democracies start coming with price tags.

You are hot on the trail of becoming an anarchist.

When you realize that the condition of humanity is most improved by free markets and that the condition of humanity is most harmed by government, you will have completed the journey.

There is only one feasible solution.

Free markets without government.

reply to post by mnemeth1


Free markets without government? Are you crazy?

Just the other day I went to a farmers market and negotiated a price for a bunch of vegetables and I was damn lucky WW3 did not break out.

About 12 months ago, a dentist and I agreed on a barter for an addition for him and dental work for me, and my God, I could have sworn terrorists were going to attack.

About 16 months ago I was purchasing milk from a farmer without the milk being pasteurized, homogenized, blah blah blah. And amazingly enough, the BLACK PLAGUE did not occur.

I am waiting for my next under the table job I do, to see if the mafia will attempt to get a cut of the deal, oh wait, I said under the table so the government will not know about it.

What do you think the government is supposed to think of you as?

What do you think a potential employer is supposed to think of you as?

What do you think a potential spouse is supposed to think of you as?

You are judged by what you can do for these people. An educated, experienced person is 'worth' more than an uneducated, inexperienced person...

This concept really transcends any sort of political ideology. You are worth something to someone. Whether measured through schooling and experience or gauged for potential.

reply to post by links234


What do you think the government is supposed to think of you as?

Their boss.

What do you think a potential employer is supposed to think of you as?

An asset, they have the right to. They pay you money and you give them labor in return. Better to be your own boss actually.

What do you think a potential spouse is supposed to think of you as?

Lover, protector, friend, confidante, provider, partner....................

How does the government of the United States have the right to use us as commodities? Is that not the definition of slavery. So they use us as collateral when it comes to making loans from the IMF. Tell me, if they cannot pay the loan back, are they allowed to sell us also as assets, or does the IMF or say China get to collect?

I saw a video awhile back that showed that the most valuable resource of a nation is it's people. Tell me, who owns the people and their labor? The government or the Country or bank they sold them into slavery to?

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by links234

 

What do you think the government is supposed to think of you as?

Their boss.

No argument there. However, if an international body is to judge a nation for its potential capital, it should, logically, judge the potential of its people. If everyone lives in squalor and has no chance of getting a fair education, the people aren't worth as much. Why do people in India and Cambodia get paid less than us? Because of our affluence and social programs.

What do you think a potential employer is supposed to think of you as?

An asset, they have the right to. They pay you money and you give them labor in return. Better to be your own boss actually.

So, you are worth something to that employer. Example: If you can swing a hammer you're worth $1, if you can swing a hammer and use a screwdriver you're worth $2. So...your potential (ability to learn things), your education (ability to accomplish a task without supervision), and experience (proven ability to accomplish a task unsupervised) equals capital.

So we can assume an equation of:

C=P+Ex+Edu

If you're born to a wealthy family you have greater potential for greater education, so P can be less than or equal to Edu. The older you are the more experience you tend to have but...as age goes, you have less potential to learn new things so Ex is greater than P. So on and so forth, you=capital to an employer, even if it's yourself.

What do you think a potential spouse is supposed to think of you as?

Lover, protector, friend, confidante, provider, partner....................

If you're apathetic you cannot be a friend.
If you're a blabber mouth you can't be a confidante.
If you have no job you can't provide as much.
And so on and so forth.

How does the government of the United States have the right to use us as commodities? Is that not the definition of slavery. So they use us as collateral when it comes to making loans from the IMF. Tell me, if they cannot pay the loan back, are they allowed to sell us also as assets, or does the IMF or say China get to collect?

It's our government, we are in control. We might not agree with eachother and force upon ourself this belief we aren't in control...but we are. Do we sell ourselves as assets? I believe the definition of slavery would be more accurately said as laboring against your will for little or no recouperation or 'payback'.

If we, as a country/government/people owe a debt and assume labor=capital then, theoretically, when we labor we pay that debt. Thus the concept of living paycheck to paycheck comes into play...

I saw a video awhile back that showed that the most valuable resource of a nation is it's people. Tell me, who owns the people and their labor? The government or the Country or bank they sold them into slavery to?

The capitalists own the labor. The bank owns the home and car.

In all honesty people allow themselves to be owned when they rent or borrow money or promise labor for pay. Sadly, we can't all be our own business owner...unless we accept as 'employee owned' business' as the norm, but some consider that akin to socialism. Like I said, neither of us necessarily enjoy the thought of being a commodity, the concept transcends political ideology.

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reply to post by endisnighe


The state can now extract a larger and larger percentage of our income because of how much more productive we have become since 1200AD in the time of the serfs. Due to technology, people in this era will not riot in the streets if the state robs them of half their hard earned wealth because they will still be able to feed themselves and live some what more comfortably than 3rd worlders. Although could you imagine if those taxes werent extracted you and your neighbor would recieve a 30-50% income boost and could use that money to invest which would help out everyone in the economy.

I'll bite .



Devil's Advocate

Human beings do not listen , do not learn , do not differentiate .

Most humans would prefer to be handed a pay check then to fight for profits of their own ships in the sea of commerce .

Most human beings prefer to be slaves . ( spoken like a true ex-mamluklu )


Freeman on the land can organise thru the cyberspace and create a virtual cyber entity with legal rights too .



I would not bet my money on it , not for the time being , not untill I complete the ' Principals of Digitism ' e-book .

reply to post by links234


Well, it looks like you have gotten to where I was going.

The government is allowed to sell us into slavery. Besides us, they are allowed to sell our progeny into slavery into perpetuity.

Tell me, if 35% of the countries taxation goes directly to the banksters that printed money out of thin air to loan to our government, and hence we have to pay that interest in perpetuity to these banksters; that really never created anything, does this not mean that the bankers alone own 35% of our labor or us?

Now, I do not want a nationalized bank, but I sure as hell hate the idea of a private entity sucking 35% of everything we create as a nation, for doing nothing but putting some zeroes at the end of a damn computer ledger.

Tell you what, here you go, I am going to give the US $14 Trillion dollars right now........................done. Now, you and your progeny are going to work for me in perpetuity.

I now own 35% of the world's assets created from this point on.

Bow to your king the endisnighe.

reply to post by epsilon69


Yes, this is true.

But, I know for a fact that one grandfather retired at the age of 58. He at the time owned 2 homes and lived to a ripe age. Guess what he did? He was a logger in the early 1900's. You could work during the summer and take off all winter.

You were able to sustain yourself and ACTUALLY save money.

No one bring up credit is the cause of most peoples problems. Never used it after my college years.

The value of our money has been deflated to the point that is crazy. Especially over the last 10 years.

All cause by the Federal Reserve and our stupid moronic leaders. I think it is to the point we need to create our own currency again. I know some places are moving to silver and gold.

Oh well, I wonder if I can do it......................................$14 Trillion, there we go, here you go Federal Reserve, I just paid off the national debt. Now, government, how bout eliminating all that taxation? No?..................................revolution. See what happens?

reply to post by mnemeth1



No, I dont think anarchy, as I understand it, is feasible.

It should be clear to anyone willing to really look at human beings, (and other animals) that the majority WANT a leader of some kind. You see this in all social animals. I do not believe that through sheer force of will we can overcome this tendency. A leader would always end up in charge, whether the system began that way or not, so you might as well design a system for the most benign type of leadership.


I tend to believe we need to structure government in such a way that those making the rules can never benefit from their own rule making, as suggested by Plato in the Republic. We may or may not adopt his methodology verbatim, but the core concept, that leadership should be a burden, and of no benefit to the leader what so ever, with clear boundaries to wealth being able to buy power, would be the best way to maintain a free market. Easier said than done, of course.

Imho.

Sorry that I cannot begin the debate as I agree! Why do you think companies have "Human Resources" or "Human Capital" departments??? What do you think your Birth Certificate represents? It is a financial instrument used by the country to secure its credit. Yes, you are its chattel, its property and you represent a portion of its value.

Once again, we travel down the raod of distinguishing the difference between Common Law and the Uniform Commercial Code, the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and then the law prohibiting people from owning gold in 1933. Couple that with the SCOTUS definition of "person" and you have a slave society.

This is also why there are so many regulations and statutes - to protect their assets.

I'm not going to bother getting into it because it always seems to kill a thread. ATS is littered with the carcasses of threads that have tried ever so desperately to educate the sheep of their impending slaughter. There are not too many people interested in understanding that they are slaves, why they are slaves or how to change the system - sadly!

Much of this information has been spread and many people are aware. What is lacking is the step by step information to remedy this on a personal basis.

Anyone can see the problems and the dark clouds rolling in. What is not so visible is the solutions and how to proceed. I think we need more detailed information available in that area.

We need more information on solutions instead of continual bombardment with the problems that are obvious.

Endisnigh, this is a good topic because it is timely information and people do need to be alarmed to the point of realizing what will be the outcome in this situation if we do not take steps of remedy.

But the detail and precision, the "how-to" and "Q & A" of those steps to solve the problem of being used as collateral is what is missing.