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America is one of the most mind controlled countries on the planet. Hypocritically, Americans chant with religious fervor about how they have freedom and democracy, while at the same time ACT like the "Borg Collective" from Star Trek that tries to assimilate everyone, both domestic and abroad. It's the ultimate lie and as they say "Actions speak louder than words". So we will look at the "actions" of control and conformity in America as opposed to the false rhetoric that the automaton populace chant as their religion.
In America, truth is not the highest ideal or passion. Neither is freedom, contrary to the myth. (See my essay Debunking Freedom and Democracy in America) The country is governed by a sense of "moral authoritarianism" or the concept of "might makes right", which basically teaches that authority = truth rather than the actual truth itself. It's all about conformity and obedience to authority and the manufactured consensus.
Basically, you are taught to believe whatever you are told by authority, the media, and the consensus, even if it doesn't make sense and those sources have been proven to be pathological liars in the past and agenda-driven. In other words, you are not supposed to "think for yourself" in the "land of the free" protected by the First Amendment. Such is the irony and hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by WWu777
Unfortunately, there isnt much I can find to disagree with.
I do wonder what happened, however, because we sure didnt start off this way. How did we go so far down the wrong path, so relatively quickly?
(Although I will say that anyone who thinks the UK is much different is mistaken. Much of what America is, is just the UK on steroids, with less manners.)
Originally posted by WWu777
Isn't it cause of the Illuminati and Secret Societies, as David Icke says?
The Masons were in control of this country from day one, remember? Most US Presidents, including Obama, were Masons.
I wish you the best and hope you find some comfort in realizing that the world wins the 'you against the world' fight every-single-round. By knock out. Tyson style. As in you will lose a piece of your ear.
I by chance (looking actually at a completely different forum) encountered your site, and decided I simply HAVE to add my story/point of view...have to say it is all within the lines of what I've read (how immigrants view America/Americans...
I moved here 13 years ago, never planned, but that man met me in my home city, and couldn't leave alone for 2 years, which eventually ended up in marriage (me being very young, unaware of life, without life's wisdom)...we first lived in Texas...boondocks. I ma from Russia, country of soul, of mystics, of rich inner world, of great culture, literature, etc....What striked me to the point of not possible to put in words there: IGNORANCE (enough was said in your page there. same things, ppl not knowing the map of the world, geography, their own culture not talking about other cultures...back in Russia I did not even KNOW such things, this level of ignorance, is possible in the world...
2. Fakeness...again, ppl are not real, all wear masks, all pretend, a huge fake hypocritical, cold, indifferent, spiritless world. I felt I was communicating with lunatics or imbeciles. In Russia, no matter what profession or education one has, such thing as common sense is always present in a person, in every plummer, every peasant, every cleaner, etc. Here, even ppl with college degrees have no common sense in them. The very few OK Americans I met were from university from the Languages Dep, those who were deeply in touch with European cultures, people, mentality...
Anyway, then arn 9 years ago we moved to Arizona; Arizona is MUCH better than TX I have to admit, but the general American tendencies are no less ever present here, too.
Coldness, indifference, hypocrisy, lack of refinement, of culture, of common sense, of spirituality, of compassion are the most horrible characteristics of this country and its ppl. I would agree also to call it "insane asylum". This inner emptiness drives them to horde malls on the weekends, to look for their "bargains" and "specials", and to pass by others of their own kind that are in need.
I feel it is a Devil's place, a Devil's Kingdom on Earth par excellence. This world sucks on the whole, but in other places of this dark planet there is some soul lives on, some Spirit dwells in people's hearts still, and that soothes the trials of our every day existence. Here, in the US, the cruelty of their empty human hearts, which they call "individualism" is beyond belief. They are empty, cruel, soulless, spiritless, fake, dead ppl, automatons, biorobots. What else one can say...
Thank you for creating and bringing to the world your site, for the honesty and sincerity. Blessings “
Originally posted by Mayson
reply to post by WWu777
I think that control and conformity are good for a nation as a whole. Freedom is good for a person. (obviously this isn't a hard and fast rule)
There has to be something to be said for slavery. Without it, we wouldn't have the Great Wall of China or the pyramids or any number of other amazing things. Unfortunately, it probably wasn't all that good for the slaves.
At least with economic slavery we can have a relatively happy populace as well as all the benefits of slavery.
So in other words, freedom is a selfish thing? Does that mean I'm selfish if I want freedom? Life is always a tradeoff isn't it?
Isn't conformity only good for the elite?
Money is all about control and enslavement. It is not natural at all. Nothing else in the universe or the natural world uses it except us.
Originally posted by Copernicus
Its also possible to view things like this. America is now what the world doesnt want. It has gone from being a role model to being a bad guy. Humans need those kinds of examples to be able to not repeat the same mistakes.
Remember how the World Wars have made most people in the world hesitant going out killing people to get peace? We learned quite a lot from that experience.
The American government regime and its control structures needs to go, and it will. Humans are waking up now and we just dont want that kind of system to live in for our kids. When everybody wants change, it will happen one way or the other. Step one is to become aware of the buttons they push to make us react a certain way. Thats what we are learning now.
You are a smart guy, WWu777, and clearly awake of what is going on.
[edit on 1-8-2010 by Copernicus]