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posted on Jul, 27 2010 @ 04:08 PM
"The Oronteus Finaeus map, published in 1531, shows Antarctica before it was "discovered" and how it looked ice-free. The map shows continent rivers, valleys, and coastlines, as well as the approximate location of the south pole. It also gives the correct longitudinal coordinates.

Professor Charles H. Hapgood, of Keene College, contacted the US Air Force in 1960. In 1961, he received a response from the 8th Reconnaissance Technical Squadron's Cartographic section; here it is typed with emphasis by webmaster[1]:

Westover Air Force Base, Mass.

14 Aug 61

Mr. Charles H. Hapgood
Keene Teachers College
Keene, N.H.

Dear Professor Hapgood:

It is not very often that we have an opportunity to evaluate maps of ancient origin. The Piri Reis (1513) and Oronteus Fineaus [sic] (1531) maps sent to us by you, presented a delightful challenge, for it was not readily conceivable that they could be so accurate without being forged. With added enthusiasm we accepted this challenge and have expended many off duty hours evaluating your manuscript and the above maps. I am sure you will be pleased to know we have concluded that both of these maps were compiled from accurate original source maps, irrespective of dates. The following is a brief summary of our findings:

a. The solution of the portolano projection used by Admiral Piri Reis, developed by your class in Anthropology, must be very nearly correct; for when known geographical locations are checked in relationship to the grid computed by Mr. Richard W. Strachan (MIT), there is remarkably close agreement. Piri Reis' use of the portolano projection (centered on Syene, Egypt) was an excellent choice, for it is a developable surface that would permit the relative size and shape of the earth (at that latitude) to be retained. It is our opinion that those who compiled the original map had an excellent knowledge of the continents covered by this map.

b. As stated by Colonel Harold Z. Ohlmeyer in his letter (July 6, 1960) to you, the Princess Martha Coast of Queen Maud Laud, Antarctica, appears to be truly represented on the southern sector of the Piri Reis map. The agreement of the Piri Reis Map with the seismic profile of this area made by the Norwegian-British-Swedish Expedition of 1949, supported by your solution of the grid, places beyond a reasonable doubt the conclusion that the original source maps must have been made before the present Antarctic ice cap covered the Queen Maud Land coasts.

c. It is our opinion that the accuracy of the cartographic features shown in the Oronteus Fineaus [sic] Map (1531) suggests, beyond a doubt, that it also was compiled from accurate source maps of Antarctica, but in this case of the entire continent. Close examination has proved the original source maps must have been compiled at a time when the land mass and inland waterways of the continent were relatively free of ice. This conclusion is further supported by a comparison of the Oronteus Fineaus [sic] Map with the results obtained by International Geophysical Year teams in their measurements of the subglacial topgraphy. The comparison also suggests that the original source maps (compiled in remote antiquity) were prepared when Antarctica was presumably free of ice. The Cordiform Projection used by Oronteus Fineaus [sic] suggests the use of advanced mathematics. Further, the shape given to the Antarctic continent suggests the possibility, if not the probability, that the original source maps were compiled on a stereographic or gnomic type of projection (involving the use of spherical trigonometry).

d. We are convinced that the findings made by you and your associates are valid, and that they raise extremely important questions affecting geology and ancient history, questions which certainly require further investigation.

We thank you for extending us the opportunity to have participated in the study of these maps. The following officers and airmen volunteered their time to assist Captain Lorenzo W. Burroughs in this evaluation: Captain Richard E. Covault, CWO Howard D. Minor, MSgt Clifton M. Dover, MSgt David C. Carter, TSgt James H. Hood, SSgt James L. Carroll, and A1C Don R. Vance.

Captain, USAF
Chief, Cartographic Section
8th Reconnaissance Technical Sqdn (SAC)
Westover Air Force Base, Massachusetts

Professor Hapgood has other fascinating letters from MIT and Cambridge universities, as well as correspondence between the Turkish embassy and the US State Department. I [webmaster] highly recommend reading.

[1] Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings [pg 244-245], Charles H. Hapgood (1966)

not proof but a beginning....

""In 1927 at Fisher Canyon, Nevada a fossil of a well-cut, double stitched leather sole was found by
quarrymen. The rock was identified as Triassic limestone, 160 to 195 million years old. (1)

Here's another piece..

Just atke the peces and follow the puzzle

posted on Jul, 27 2010 @ 04:19 PM
You mean the Piri Resi map is of alien origin? Can you prove that?

As for the map of the creator, there are rocks of all kinds around the world that can be said they show some part of the Earth's surface. From that to claim someone made them as maps, in times so ancient that they predate even the dinosaurs is too far fetched, even for ATS.

If there's proof, feel free to post it, or link to it. If all there is speculation, please say that it is so and leave the claims for later.

posted on Jul, 27 2010 @ 10:09 PM
This thread sounds like a trick bible question or something, the way its worded at least makes it seem that way. As for the post about abraham sacrificing his son isaac (im still trying to figure out how to reply to posts), maybe "god" was just doing a test himself, if this was the first time he made humans, maybe he just wanted to see how far a person will go for their beliefs. If i had been god i would have been curious at least...just a thought.

posted on Jul, 27 2010 @ 10:47 PM
OP... you talk as if extra-terrestial beings or any other beings would have the same values or think the same as us.. step outside the box.

posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 12:29 PM
this is to maegans or w/e it was

you havent read all the books of the bible my friend! noah after leaving the ark sacrificed animals and made a covenant with him...enoch was inivited to god's kingdom to name the angels and to learn...cain and abel met god as to why god accepted abels offering not cains...adam and eve met god in the garden of eden and after...moses on mt sinai...

[edit on 28-7-2010 by metalholic]

posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 01:27 PM
reply to post by KingAtlas

The recods indicate that there was a "something/someone" who prepared the earth for habitation.

Really? What records? Ancient myths laid down by people who couldn't have known any better. People who formed elaborate stories and traditions about the cosmos that are vastly different from each other.

When life began the Earth wasn't exactly "prepared for habitation", it wasn't the Eden that we've all but destroyed. Considering that there were no plants, until they evolved, it was hardly ideal for anything other than the first single-celled lifeforms.

I don't think there is a prevailing "end" goal or purpose to humanity. Our destiny is undecided and while to some the absence of higher purpose is frightening I find it liberating. I have no divine edicts to follow, no priests putting words in the Mouth of God and telling me what to do.

To what end you ask... To whatever end we seek.

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