I'm not going to address most of what you ask, aside from the bit below, but one thing that I would note to support prophecywatcher
is that if
you don't look for God, you are very unlikely to find any sign of him. If you have blocked out the idea of God, instances like the ones she cites
will go unnoticed, or you will write them off as coincidence. If you needed money, and, while standing in the park, someone unknown to you came up
and gave you $100 out of the blue, I would see the work of the spirit, you would see something else.
Rare is the Christian (perhaps other religious persons, as well, I don't know) who would say that they have never felt the spirit in them (such as
having an impulse to call someone, and when they pick up the phone, you find them in a bad way and in need of support) or seen the spirit work through
others for them.
Originally posted by seangkt
6. The miraculous events that supposedly took place such as Mary being a virgin, Moses splitting the sea, Jesus walking on water and coming back to
life after 3 days.
These all happened once and never again? NOTHING ever happens only once. Although for the reality of the bibles sake, these miraculous events took
place just one time. I guarantee you these will never happen again and I'll tell you why. Because common sense tells us these are all nonsense.
Revert back to number 2 for a second and think that if a girl walked up to you today and said she got pregnant without ever having sex (artificial
insemination is not to be used). Most would automatically judge them as a crazy liar.
Miracles are miracles, not common events. They happen for a reason. I presume that you understand why Jesus' resurrection happened, so I'm
surprised that you expect it to happen over and over. One Christ, one resurrection, one salvation. That's all that was needed, that's all that
there will be.
Given your supposition that Christianity was all made up, consider this.
Christianity began within the Jewish community, and geographically in the core of the Jewish nation, Judea. But it had a problem. Its basic claim
was that Jesus was the Son of God, the Christ (Messiah) and that he was, in fact, God. Virgin birth, no original sin, performed miracles, all that
"stuff" that you discount, testified to the Jews that Jesus was the real deal.
The problem was that saying you were God, healing people on the Sabbath, forgiving one's sins, these were blasphemy in the worst degree! Even if you
were just joking, your punishment was death, by stoning. Christ wasn't killed for doing anything, even Pilate noted that he'd done nothing wrong,
he was killed for making this outlandish and blaspheming claim.
If Christ was not God, then he got what he deserved. He was a Jew, he was under Jewish law, and his claim to be God when he was not meant that he was
under a death sentence. Do you agree that Christ got what he deserved?
Now, moving beyond that, you had the 12 disciples, the Apostles. Good men, Godly Jews, they knew the law, they knew what it meant to make these sorts
of claims. They did it anyway. With one exception, John, the Apostles were all put to death for proclaiming that Christ had, in fact died and been
resurrected. That Christ was, in fact, God as man. They continued the "blasphemy", and they weren't preaching to the Romans, they were preaching
to the very Jews who believed it was a sin just to listen to such talk, much less speak it. The first martyr, Stephen, died of stoning, continuing to
proclaim his faith that Jesus was God as the stones hit him.
If the Apostles didn't believe their own story, if they had hidden the body of Jesus, or they otherwise knew that he had not been resurrected, what
motivation might they have had for willingly dying for something that they not only realized wasn't true, but the act of furthering the lie damned
them as well? The Peter depicted in Acts is much different than the Peter we see before the Crucifixion, what might account for that change in
There are those who will say that the whole thing was imagined, and that, without more evidence, it's all dismissible. That's where faith comes in,
I suppose, but then I consider those twelve apostles, again, and what they managed to do. By the time we have datable documentary evidence, the
Pauline Letters, the Church is a fairly sizable thing, and remember that it's still mostly Jewish. So these illiterate fishermen, tax collectors and
other "sinners" have managed to convert an awful lot of people, for whom the very notion of Christianity was blasphemy.
Unless it was true.