H.R. 5741: Mandatory 2 year Service to Federal Government

Originally posted by OuttaTime

(1) a declaration of war is in effect;

1. The 'Global War on Terror' is in perpetual effect, not to mention the

Technically, I do believe war wasn't declared on the "War on Terror". It's called a War for marketing purposes. Really what happened is under the "War Powers" argument, Congress allotted the President additional troops to "deploy".

The troops are currently "deployed" on "patrol" and "should" a hostile engage them, then they "may" return fire. Thus a conflict is created, legally within the law without declaring war.

Our troops are simply on deployment, intentionally placed on patrol in hostile areas as to create a conflict furthering the illusion that this is in fact a "War". So that Congress will then approve the deployment of more troops without being engaged in a lawful "War".

So it would not apply under that condition even if passed currently. Unless we actually declared formal War upon a sovereign country.

This new "preemptive" strategy allows us to interfere with the borders of a country without actually entering into War. Thus antagonizing the enemy into declaring war.

Most likely so we can wipe them out and say, "They attacked us first. Honestly, we're the good guys."

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by The Vagabond
It's just Charlie Rangel. He does this as often as his colleagues will tolerate. He's doing it because it generates concern over nothing, which is of course newsworthy, and causes the reporters to come listen to him talk about how military service has become the poor man's burden and needs to be redistributed fairly.

My friend, you should know by now that this is part of what the Obama administration wants. Even Obama himself has made it quite clear that this is part of the "change" he, and his goons want.

www.youtube.com...

Emanuel Rahm, who is Obama's chief of staff, has also talked about the forced national service.

www.disclose.tv...

This is not just Rangel wanting to attract attention, this is part of the "change" the entire Obama administration wants to implement.




[edit on 27-7-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

It's Rahm Emanuel...not Emanuel Rahm.

I can't believe ATS members fall for this crazy stuff. It's CRAZY to think all these politicians would allow their sons and daughters to get drafted.

IT'S CRAZY!!

Here is what saddens me. These people are believing outsiders to the USA, instead of insiders.

It's obvious the Obama haters are not from this country. They come on here to stir up the hate. You guys are falling for it. Conquer and divide is a tried and true method in winning wars.

Some of you posters are basically TRAITORS. You are sympathizing with the enemy.

One person got Rahm's name wrong. What kind of patriot gets the leadership wrong? You guys are sympathizing with the enemy.

Originally posted by Come Clean
It's obvious the Obama haters are not from this country. They come on here to stir up the hate. You guys are falling for it. Conquer and divide is a tried and true method in winning wars.

Some of you posters are basically TRAITORS. You are sympathizing with the enemy.

I'm from this Country...
Obama is the traitor.

We should have countless charges of corruption on a daily basis under his word. We can all see it, every day, in everything they say.

Instead they all play the political games instead of being upfront. That's treason.

Originally posted by mryanbrown

Originally posted by Come Clean
It's obvious the Obama haters are not from this country. They come on here to stir up the hate. You guys are falling for it. Conquer and divide is a tried and true method in winning wars.

Some of you posters are basically TRAITORS. You are sympathizing with the enemy.

I'm from this Country...
Obama is the traitor.

We should have countless charges of corruption on a daily basis under his word. We can all see it, every day, in everything they say.

Instead they all play the political games instead of being upfront. That's treason.

How is Obama a traitor? The only traitor I know of is sitting in jail for downloading secrets and giving them to wikileaks.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


i actually feel that this discussion has transcended the triflings or an irrelevant politician and would like to continue.

the call to arms in the time of great need has never been a choice in america...history is not kind to the truth. but i am not talking about armed service and neither is the proposal that rahm said he was going to put through as soon as obama was elected and i am pretty sure there are several posts detailing this around here somewhere. i am talking about public service. most people i see, and you would know this if you truly served, wouldn't know what a hard days work and giving a part of yourself to something greater would look like if it called them bad names on ats...get it?

my only point being that this site seeks to dispel ignorance yet i see hatred and violence against your fellow man spewed from all sides daily. so many of you speak of peace on here but the daily rhetoric says otherwise.

we are not going anywhere without each other. however you choose to look at it, this is who we are stuck with for the duration and we can either choose to do something great or we can continue as we have and be forgotten to time.

[edit on 27-7-2010 by TheWrongStuff]

You guys remember a couple of weeks ago we got rid of Russian spies living right here among us?

Same thing with the net. They come on here and distort the facts and you sheeple follow.

LOL!!!

I'd rather be a socialist than a traitor.

Originally posted by TheWrongStuff
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

i actually feel that this discussion has transcended the triflings or an irrelevant politician and would like to continue.

the call to arms in the time of great need has never been a choice in america...history is not kind to the truth. but i am not talking about armed service and neither is the proposal that rham said he was going to put through as soon as obama was elected and i am pretty sure there are several posts detailing this around here somewhere. i am talking about public service. most people i see, and you would know this if you truly served, wouldn't know what a hard days work and giving a part of yourself to something greater would look like if it called them bad names on ats...get it?

my only point being that this site seeks to dispel ignorance yet i see hatred and violence against your fellow man spewed from all sides daily. so many of you speak of peace on here but the daily rhetoric says otherwise.

we are not going anywhere without each other. however you choose to look at it, this is who we are stuck with for the duration and we can either choose to do something great or we can continue as we have and be forgotten to time.

Thick skin is part of the terms of service I think.

You didn't take a stand my man. All you did was empower the terrorist that come on here from other countries.

Bottom line, if you don't trust the democratic process then you are a traitor to this country.