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You Are Too Dumb To Decide What To Eat

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posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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reply to post by Whyhi
 


Again, we don't need a law to protect us against blind drivers because blind people are not suicidal.

Your argument is ridiculous times ten.




posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by Janky Red
OP, you can buy raw milk in California - one example (818) 348-3240


did you get that number from this site?


The FDA and State Agencies have discovered this list and sometimes use it for their own purposes, so exercise caution with your listing. If you choose not to have a listing, make sure your local WAPF Chapter Leader has your name for referrals.


You can buy crack coc aine in CA too.



[edit on 26-7-2010 by mnemeth1]


Don't be a nit, I just called

The Whole foods across the street from my house stopped selling it, however they still sell raw everything else (companies decision) - This is place I eat at sometimes

www.followyourheart.com...



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna

Originally posted by mnemeth1
If they drive and hurt someone, they can be sued.


So your solution is to get rid of all laws (or at least the ones you disagree with) and just have a free-for-all with lawsuits when people get hurt, sick, etc.? You do realize that those laws are what give you the ability to sue, right?



basically.

If someone isn't doing something that hurts someone or damages their property, it shouldn't be illegal.

If people are voluntarily engaging in a private exchange of goods and services, the State has no business telling them how they must conduct that transaction.

If someone is hurt, they can sue.

This is what civil courts are for.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Whyhi
 


Again, we don't need a law to protect us against blind drivers because blind people are not suicidal.

Your argument is ridiculous times ten.




I've seen a lot of "suicidal" drunk drivers, then.

In fact, a close friend of mine was killed by one.

What should I say to her family? Oh yeah, they can sue.

Thank god we're still allowed to drive drunk though, right?



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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Double post.

My apologies.

[edit on 26-7-2010 by drwizardphd]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by Janky Red
OP, you can buy raw milk in California - one example (818) 348-3240


did you get that number from this site?


The FDA and State Agencies have discovered this list and sometimes use it for their own purposes, so exercise caution with your listing. If you choose not to have a listing, make sure your local WAPF Chapter Leader has your name for referrals.


You can buy crack coc aine in CA too.



[edit on 26-7-2010 by mnemeth1]


Don't be a nit, I just called

The Whole foods across the street from my house stopped selling it, however they still sell raw everything else (companies decision) - This is place I eat at sometimes

www.followyourheart.com...


I'm not being a nit.

I'm pointing out that you would be buying from an unlicensed (hence illegal) distributor of milk by doing so.

CA does not grant licenses for the sale of raw milk because no distributor can meet the bacteria requirements.

Raw milk does not equal organic milk.

Raw milk is an entirely different classification.


[edit on 26-7-2010 by mnemeth1]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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End this crap now. A license for this, permit for that...tell them to go to hell with a gun. Does violence sound extreme?

www.youtube.com...


Our government thinks so as well.

[edit on 26-7-2010 by SmokeandShadow]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Unst0ppable0ne
 


I see lots of blather, no research links.


There is no research.


[edit on 26-7-2010 by mnemeth1]


Dude, I gave you a phone number to a place that sells raw milk - call it -



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:03 PM
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reply to post by mnemeth1
 


Again, those laws are what give you the ability to sue.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by mnemeth1
 


Again, those laws are what give you the ability to sue.


no, they are not.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by drwizardphd
 


I guess I'm too dumb not to shop at a dirty store.

Typically what happens is: I walk in, the place looks like crap, I walk out.

I don't need armed militant police enforcing arbitrary health codes to tell me some place is a rat hole.

Of course, if the place really was a rat hole, they wouldn't have any customers.

I know its shocking to think that people are capable of telling when a place is a scum pit on their own without State help in this matter, but its true, people can actually see dirt for themselves..



[edit on 26-7-2010 by mnemeth1]




Since the OP was in CA............

Not so fine dining at many TOP restaurants.





When it comes to dining out, an analysis by The San Diego Union-Tribune found that pricier doesn't always translate into safer.



Looks clean and sanitary, but is dirtier than that smelly, delapidated dive on the corner.

BTW if you want raw milk and want to get it legally. Go visit a diary farmer and purchase part of a cow or a whole cow with feeding / care. He isn't selling you milk, he's selling you cow which is legal and your cow generates milk that you can do with as you please. Completely legal and I'm sure could work for other FDA non-approved products....purchase part of a farmers field, etc.

And the reason it is legal to do it that way............so you know the exact source




[edit on 26-7-2010 by Connector]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Whyhi
 

Again, we don't need a law to protect us against blind drivers because blind people are not suicidal.
Your argument is ridiculous times ten.


I've seen a lot of "suicidal" drunk drivers, then.

In fact, a close friend of mine was killed by one.

What should I say to her family? Oh yeah, they can sue.

Thank god we're still allowed to drive drunk though, right?


I'm very sorry for what happened to your friend.

It is very sad that the laws could not protect your friend.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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You're claiming we need a law to protect us from the dangers of raw milk.

Since you are claiming its so horrible, its your job to prove it.

That's how this works.

Innocent until proven guilty.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by illusions

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Whyhi
 

Again, we don't need a law to protect us against blind drivers because blind people are not suicidal.
Your argument is ridiculous times ten.


I've seen a lot of "suicidal" drunk drivers, then.

In fact, a close friend of mine was killed by one.

What should I say to her family? Oh yeah, they can sue.

Thank god we're still allowed to drive drunk though, right?


I'm very sorry for what happened to your friend.

It is very sad that the laws could not protect your friend.


We need laws to protect us from laws.

Laws solve all our problems.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by mnemeth1
 


Again, those laws are what give you the ability to sue.



Actually an abundance of laws/permits/licenses obfuscates justice and creates a tangled web that ensnares liberty. Were they hurting anyone? No... should I be able to buy said raw milk if I desire? I thinks so. Should they be able to sell it? Yep... because if someone gets ill, that was THEIR CHOICE.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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..oops... edit...

Can you prove that I "claimed we need laws"?

I don't remember ever saying we need laws. In a perfect world, people wouldn't dare sell contaminated milk, and everyone would have the technology to detect contaminated milk, so we wouldn't need laws.

However, I am sure you will agree that this world is not perfect, and people will do anything to make money. That includes selling contaminated milk to mothers and infants.

Yes, we need some type of safety guidelines so we can prevent unneeded death.

I guess you support infant deaths....


[edit on 26-7-2010 by Unst0ppable0ne]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by Janky Red
OP, you can buy raw milk in California - one example (818) 348-3240


did you get that number from this site?


The FDA and State Agencies have discovered this list and sometimes use it for their own purposes, so exercise caution with your listing. If you choose not to have a listing, make sure your local WAPF Chapter Leader has your name for referrals.


You can buy crack coc aine in CA too.



[edit on 26-7-2010 by mnemeth1]


Don't be a nit, I just called

The Whole foods across the street from my house stopped selling it, however they still sell raw everything else (companies decision) - This is place I eat at sometimes

www.followyourheart.com...


I'm not being a nit.

I'm pointing out that you would be buying from an unlicensed (hence illegal) distributor of milk by doing so.

CA does not grant licenses for the sale of raw milk because no distributor can meet the bacteria requirements.



ITs a mainstream hippie store in Reseda California -

I have friends who have worked there, the Health department bugs them just like every other business that deals with food.

I am just telling you - FACT - you can buy raw milk and cheese all over California from store fronts that are licensed to sell and prepare food. If raw milk product is banned it is not enforced -

CAN SOMEONE HERE PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER AND ASK FOR RAW MILK???

Lets settle this part at least

(818) 348-3240



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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My argument? Your the one who brought it up!


If someone isn't doing something that hurts someone or damages their property, it shouldn't be illegal.


Raw milk CAN hurt people. THAT IS WHY IT'S ILLEGAL. I'm not saying if you drink it, you're going to implode and kill half the population. It CAN harm, which is an unnecessary risk when you consider they can do it the legal way without conflict


If people are voluntarily engaging in a private exchange of goods and services, the State has no business telling them how they must conduct that transaction.

If someone is hurt, they can sue.


Oh, so I can legally transport bomb materials and hire someone that can do the necessary work next door to someones house in my basement? Of course after that I will detonate, and they could sue me...oh wait.



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