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How this Crisis Will Play Out - 2010 and beyond

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posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by oniongrass
I've found that I can communicate with a guiding voice that often gives me an immediate answer to a specific question that one asks in thought. I'm fairly sure our engineers haven't figured out how to simulate that with antennas yet.

But if someone is actually hearing persistent voices "piped in" telling him to do crazy things, it is surely very hard to think and get calm. I guess one thing to do would be to relocate, maybe out-of-country. I don't know what they have, so I can't be confident this would fix the problem.


Nice to hear that.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by Wide Vision 2010]




posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by nlouise

Originally posted by anglodemonicmatrix
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Your right I've done some considerable studying since my 'enlightenment'.The three main strains of Christianity are the Catholics via the Vatican to the black Jesuits,the Anglicans via Her Majesty to the Rothschilds and the Religious right via believe it or not Reverend Moon to the Rockerfellers,owned lock stock and barrel by the powers that be.As for MK Ultra I have more than a sneaking suspicion that Timothy Mc Veigh was hearing voices which he mistook for God or angels from the Religious Right microwave broadcasting system.


I didn't wake up until 3 years ago. I saw the Bohemian Grove video by accident while bored and on the internet one day. All I can say is I walked around in shock for about 3 weeks. It hit me pretty hard. After that I went on information overload because I wanted to know what else I didn't know. Unfortunately when you explain anything to others they think you're the crazy one. I could have sworn that at least 2 churches I have attended in the past endorsed presidential candidates and passed them off as Christians. Now I know why.


Awakening is a shock always. I am glad you now see things for what they are. I saw a video by Alex Jones interviewing Aaron Russo where he explains the Rockerfellers plans to microchip the population, and why. The next thing I saw was a CNN post about the Microchip where it said we weren´t going to buy or sell, least we carry one in our right hand or forehead. I was stunned! We now know what the system is.

I think God opens the eyes of very few. His people.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by dove1
well it looks like they are trying to start the war

www.fpif.org... reign+Policy+In+Focus+%28All+News%29%29

en.trend.az...

news.yahoo.com...

www.washingtonpost.com...


The war has been prepared, already. They need the ¨reason¨ to start it. They need to ignite the fuse for the fireworks to start. Many people will die, and it´s very sad. Why would the Zionists need a war? To obtain the land for the Third Temple to be built, and for Maitreya, the False Prophet, ad the AC to act.




posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by dove1
this is in line with what wide vision is saying along with prophecy in revelations it more or less answers everything

www.grailcode.net...


This is an excellent site that explains everything, since the AC will claim to come from the House of David so that Judaism accept him as his Messiah.



Maimonides describes the identity of the Messiah in the following terms:



"And if a king shall arise from among the House of David, studying Torah and occupied with commandments like his father David, according to the written and oral Torah, and he will impel all of Israel to follow it and to strengthen breaches in its observance, and will fight Hashem's [God's] wars, this one is to be treated as if he were the anointed one.
If he succeeded and built the Holy Temple in its proper place and gathered the disperesed ones of Israel together, this is indeed the anointed one for certain, and he will mend the entire world to worship the Lord together, as it is stated: "For then I shall turn for the nations a clear tongue, so that they will all procalim the Name of the Lord, and to worship Him with a united resolve (Zephaniah 3:9)." [12]



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by gsup1
I think our seer here is using a shotgun approach and judging from his fragments of sentences and sometimes coherent sentences, it looks like he is gunning for at least one to be right. This can be used under the guise of informing people.

The fact is thought his "likely to happen war" did not happen. So does this make everyone of his predictions unlikely if he continues to fail in his "likely to happen" shotgun approach?


I stand by what I write, but I don´t stand by what others say I said.

When people read the Bible, everybody claims to see different things in the same writing.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by thegoodearth
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Yes, I have a thread about agenda 21 going on now as well....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, a couple of questions, just of curiosity, as you are from a Christian view on these things...

It has been said by some visionaries that an illumination of the entire population is imminent in the future by the Holy Spirit of the condition of their soul. It is also said that many millions will simply die of the shock of the true state of their souls, and that this illumination is part of the warnings and chastisements of God. Has this also been revealed to you?

Do you also follow Our Lady of Medjugorje and what has been stated by the visionaries that she has said these visits are the last time she will appear on Earth (as she has appeared many times previously)and many believe they will end in 2021, which will then begin the unfolding of the Ten Secrets/ Chastisements?

God Bless~


I visited, flagged, and starred your thread. Excellent links! Thank you for posting a thread about it. Finally everything is being seen together for what it is. The enslavement of humanity by the system that will be implemented by the liar. Lies are being exposed and people are able to see them now.

Agenda 21 is now being taught at universities as the way of the future, and people need to know what we are up against.

However, they cannot tear up our connection with the Divine.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 06:06 PM
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You haven't answered all my questions in my last 2 posts
please look into them



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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I'm happy to see you're back World Vision. Glad that you had a safe trip. I read the new posts. The last one reminded to look up agenda 21, so I read it. That was a good post also from thegoodearth. I had bookmarked it to read when I had time and forgotten about it.

I have a question about Babylon.I've read so much on the subject and every side to this issue has so many good viewpoints. I'm kind of stuck on something....

When I read the scriptures that say to get out of Babylon, I take them to mean that we need to be separate from the NWO system and the religions of this world, and not partake in it's abominations, which will result in judgement.

I realize that Daniel 18 that there is judgement going on and that 'the great city' will be heard from no more. Everywhere in the Bible that the 'great city' is referred to is Jerusalem. The Bible mentions a new Jerusalem. Couldn't the old city of Jerusalem be also considered Babylon?

Also, the crown still controls this country. They have made themselves rich and fat from it since its inception. The vatican is married to Britain. Since the woman riding the beast is mentioned along with mystery Babylon, wouldn't those two be the unholy alliance for judgement?

So many things to ponder. I know this country has its share of abominations, but so have the other economic power structures of this world. What sets us apart as, or what is the underlying factor (in the whole sceme of things) to be the 'great city' that will be heard from no more? The illuminati control everything even Israel. In essence they control us too, through Britain. What am I missing?

[edit on 3-8-2010 by nlouise]

BIG EDIT: I meant Rev. 18 not Daniel 18. Sorry.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by nlouise]



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

I think God opens the eyes of very few. His people.


A simple question. Which god ?
Judging by the misery that has occurred throughout history in the name of, or in fairness against, gods of all creeds. I'd say back the right pony for there are either many gods or none.

Your eyes may be open, but do they perceive truth ?



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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It´s being done, as we speak. Do your research and you will not call this a silly notion.

I posted clear evidence that the numbers show that the opposite of your claims is happening. You are telling us unimportant anecdotal stories that are of no interest since the numbers clearly show land is being consumed in new construction at an alarming pace.

So do your research and you will realize how silly your claim is.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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[Nonetheless, we should respect each other. I don´t even know what video you speak about!

That would be the video in the post I was responding to. I watched the video. It's a stinker.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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Hi nlouise,

My own view of it is as follows, based more on a knowledge of cities than of the Bible. I believe that if any city today is "the great city", NYC is it. I'm not just saying that because I live close to NYC, because I've lived also in other parts of the USA, and I lived in Hong Kong for several years. I know many great cities.

But I think that if you went to any of them and asked the inhabitants what is the greatest city, they would say NYC. Except maybe in London, but those people in London would be wrong. Don't trust Brits


NYC has everything -- every race and religion, two important universities, vast wealth, a fantastic port. It has the headquarters of the world's most important banking and trading firms. Even the business end of the Federal Reserve, which is the NY Federal Reserve Bank, is headquartered there. When they set bank interest rate (Fed Funds rate) policy, they do it in NY, not DC, because NY is where the money is. And it has the UN over along the East River in an area that is otherwise not very fancy. Over the past 60 years, say since WWII, NYC has really been on top.

When the Soviet Union was founded in 1917 where did much of the leadership come from? Brooklyn.

So if there's a "great city" in the world today, NYC is it.

I am aware that the major banks headquartered there have backup locations for their data and operations -- New Jersey, London, probably places I don't know about. So it will be interesting to see if their operations are interrupted by natural disasters or wars. They have planned, ever since 9/11, to prevent such interruption so they can continue to exploit their "franchises" and to receive payments on debts owed to them by people, corporations and governments.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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It works for the higher ups. The rest, are usually indebted, or their income has been slashed while prices have gone up. That is spelled everywhere as P O V E R T Y


Your claim that this works for the higher ups is true. It also works the middle people. It even works for the people at the poverty level.

Are prices going up at this time? No. Prices are flat. The problem is that this could lead to a long period of falling prices. Take a look at statements by Bernanke and Bullard here in the US. Companies have tightened belts by slashing costs in many areas including travel, incomes, raises, new hires, R&D, etc. This has been done in many cases without slashing jobs. Less is better than 0.

To call this poverty is a dramatic misrepresentation of the facts.

BTW, is rising prices another of your failed predictions or just a basic misunderstanding of the current economic situation?



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Noncompatible

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

I think God opens the eyes of very few. His people.


A simple question. Which god ?
Judging by the misery that has occurred throughout history in the name of, or in fairness against, gods of all creeds. I'd say back the right pony for there are either many gods or none.

Your eyes may be open, but do they perceive truth ?

If it helps, I don't think "his people" are the ones trying to cause misery, except maybe as the would be perceived by some who really deserve misery because of how they behave here. I think "his people" consistently try to spread light in a minimally distorted way.

Disclaimer: there's no stamp on the forehead by which I can readily identify these people, and even if they were I would not know their intentions. Yet I think I understand the basics of what "his people" are all about.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by oniongrass
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Hi nlouise,

My own view of it is as follows, based more on a knowledge of cities than of the Bible. I believe that if any city today is "the great city", NYC is it. I'm not just saying that because I live close to NYC, because I've lived also in other parts of the USA, and I lived in Hong Kong for several years. I know many great cities.

But I think that if you went to any of them and asked the inhabitants what is the greatest city, they would say NYC. Except maybe in London, but those people in London would be wrong. Don't trust Brits


NYC has everything -- every race and religion, two important universities, vast wealth, a fantastic port. It has the headquarters of the world's most important banking and trading firms. Even the business end of the Federal Reserve, which is the NY Federal Reserve Bank, is headquartered there. When they set bank interest rate (Fed Funds rate) policy, they do it in NY, not DC, because NY is where the money is. And it has the UN over along the East River in an area that is otherwise not very fancy. Over the past 60 years, say since WWII, NYC has really been on top.

When the Soviet Union was founded in 1917 where did much of the leadership come from? Brooklyn.

So if there's a "great city" in the world today, NYC is it.

I am aware that the major banks headquartered there have backup locations for their data and operations -- New Jersey, London, probably places I don't know about. So it will be interesting to see if their operations are interrupted by natural disasters or wars. They have planned, ever since 9/11, to prevent such interruption so they can continue to exploit their "franchises" and to receive payments on debts owed to them by people, corporations and governments.


Yes, I would have to agree that here in the US, it would be NYC. I made a mistake in my reference and just realized it. I just went back and read and in Rev. 18 it IS talking about a city, not a whole nation.

I noticed Dubai is starting to look alot like a modern day Babylon, as well, probably owned by the same bankers.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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Despite your apparent need to answer for the OP........

I'll respond.
You have basically just stated that anyone claiming to "have" religion is doomed. Especially anyone subscribing to the three headed beast that is Jewish,Christian or Islamic in nature. Since they are responsible for one large chunk of the worlds woes both historically and currently.

That's cool with me. However you may need to reassess your thinking or you'll hand the world to the godless (like me).
But as they say the devil is in the details.............




[edit on 3-8-2010 by Noncompatible]



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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Looks to me like the ocean floor heaved pretty good. Some of the youtube comments are skeptical, what do you think?

www.youtube.com...



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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I didn't know that this was "quiz OP" or as someone said so eloquently earlier, "get OP". I thought questions were asked because someone wanted to know something.

I agree with you that the sort of spirit I'm talking about may not be compatible with the major organized religions. To the extent I've had contact with those religions, it seems to me that they do not promote the sort of thing I'm talking about.

I read a Papal Bull from around the 12th century that was pretty interesting. It declared that salvation must come through the Catholic Church, and that people could not reliably have contact with God except as intermediated by the Church. All others would lose their salvation. Whereas my experience is that those big institutions just get in the way.

Guess they didn't want to be disintermediated. And they were able to make it stick for several more centuries. I don't know if that's still in their official doctrine.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by oniongrass]



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:10 PM
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I remember Dubai from the pre-construction-boom days. I was there for one day in about 1995 on a stopover. I liked it then, even though it got to 140 (not a typo) during the day. It was 100 degrees when the plane landed -- at midnight. I would probably not like it as well now.

I remember that Hamid Karzai (our guy in Kabul who purports to run the "government of Afghanistan") has a villa on that sandy palm-tree shaped thing they built out into the Arabian Gulf. Don't remember how I learned that, it was something I saw on the internet.



posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 11:33 PM
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It moved a small area and did not affect the camera. How pathetic was the commentary on the video?

I rate this interesting in that it shows the material at the bottom is sediments and not solid rock. The lack of effect on the camera shows that this is a small event. I wonder what minor event caused the localized uplift of the sediments.



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