How to Kill a Demon 101

Well I cannot sit here and make "faith" the issue of the thread. Because majority of people have so many different faiths and if I was to shove christianity down people throats they would tell me I was using for my agenda.

Negative can take out a negative in only a few reasons. To close a gate you would have to use the "summon book" to close it. That is a positive outcome.

anyways. thx for the opinion. Faith is important but multi-cultural society has changned this

Faith is to be considered in religion.

You can take 100 people from a church and learn that they believe in different things.

[edit on 27-7-2010 by Jordan River]

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Actually Aramaic was supposedly the language of god and the angels.....not Hebrew......

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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
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Actually Aramaic was supposedly the language of god and the angels.....not Hebrew......

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I do not mean to sound dickish, but it is both. That is 100% fact. God still speaks Hebrew most of the time. Even going as far as pre Hebrew what was that sumerian?

as I munch on my hummus

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unless jesus wasnt really the christ

Alright...I don’t know where to even start....
so dealing with this "rape" thing (luckily Kris was there so she knows its bs and the girls friend has stood up for me so all hope is not lost just my entire life is screwed up)

I'm sitting in my bay and this guy Josh D. in there has started a bible study and invites me and I go. He also gives me this book about Saul of Tarus (aka Paul) which I have always loved his story, he kills Christians for a living but God turns him around on the road to Damascus and makes him into an amazing man, but Paul still suffers some suffering in Christ name to make up for it.

So I’m on fire feeling good missing the God I served back in high school and everything when I was stronger in faith (never stopping believing in God just doubts here and there.

So next I pick up from the library this Book "Holy Blood Holy Grail" and it’s from 70 ish and is where most the research that the Divinchi Code and things like that are based on.

They have also of fun tracking the "holy grail" and make several connections that are major... including huge discoveries like tracking the Priority of Sion on through time and getting close enough to them to get an interview.

Guess the biggest things to mention here are the fact that they reference everything and use the original documents when available.
The far out part is a theory Jesus didn’t die on the cross but may have had someone stand in for him (ill get to why it would be important later)
And that a bishop actually contacted them and told them they had no idea how close to the truth they are.

Now they people that connect into the holy grail legends following it as closely as possible are either 1) DESTROYED BY THE CHURCH i.e. Templar, Cathars etc 2) They tell the church what they want to do like a man in 1942 who built a cathedral out of his pocket and when they revoked him a priest he said no and they put him back there.

The big part about these people that get close or are on the list for leaders of the Priority of Sion happen to do really strange things i.e. make stations of the cross showing Jesus’ body being moved after dark (remember that would be the sabit he was already barried by then) or they show a painting of Jesus hanging on the cross and they don’t show his face with a "dark figure in the shadows"

This combined with the references and that I know the pope has a library where they keep things too dangerous for Christianity. I'll start my study chronologically with the gospel of Mark. And try to hit all my thoughts theory and facts and make the difference between the three very clear so you know where I make logic jumps. And a quote
Pope Leo X 1513-1521
"It has served us well this myth of Christ"

Mark completed around 70AD and brought to the library of Alexandria with Paul letters. Two big NOs here is that there is no genealogy for Jesus, Christian scholars argue this is because people did not do bibliographies like they do now back then BUT if you remember Jesus being from the blood line of David was a requirement for him to be the Messiah so IT HAS TO BE THERE. And Jews kept that record more important than anything.
Second is Pope Clement still has a surviving letter where a member of a church had asked about a part missing from Mark. The pope responded to the Bishop saying basically they don’t need the whole truth and then quotes the removed part. It is the resurrection of Lazarus. You can still find him in mark when Jesus is taken away, he is the man in the loin cloth Jesus had him wear that and took to teaching him. The even bigger deal is that Lazarus wasn’t dead. He cries out from the tomb and this implies more of a symbolic death such as baptism
Which then makes The gospel of John make more since when the disciples claim to want to die like him?

For now we move onto Matthew which many people see has a copy of mark since it shares many of the same stories teachings etc but with someone’s added views the genealogy and the birth (I say someone because remember they are ALL actually annomus)
The first thing that sticks out is the Massacre of the innocents. There is no historical or arcyological evidence to show that this ever happened. Now in anything other than Christianity that is evidence. If I say WWIII happened you would prove it didn’t how? And Harrods chronologicers kept details of his every move we even know this guys family problems and how he died but no one wrote down he killed a bunch of babies? We know Jews hated him cause he put a roman eagle on the temple he built for them but no one can find a mass baby grave?

Next if you compare the genealogy with that of Luke we see that it is different. Now scholars say one if most likely a legal one and the other blood but both eventually meeting back at David. We know Jewish custom makes an adopted son more than a blood one because you “choose” him after he was a man. So the only one that matters is that one that’s legal unless the person has a major connection the other way also in which neither can be dismissed and therefore both gospels should have both or the same one.

John if you will notice is completely different style and writing completed aprox 90AD
Now after it was pointed out I have decided Lazarus was the writer mostly due to the theory of Jesus marrying his Sister Mary and that it contains intimate information that someone of a close family bond would partake of i.e. the leaning on Jesus as the last supper, the mother of Jesus becoming his mother at the cross and the subtle change of prospective when the story of Lazarus starts…it seems like the author is no longer there.

(but if Jesus was married they would have told us!!! The wedding of Cana, it was a common custom for the bride and groom to be anonymous and you will notice Jesus, the disciples and his mother are all there, the slaves take orders from Jesus and his mother AND his mother seems to be the one dealing with making everything work.
But Jesus wouldn’t have servants he was a poor carpenter, the same word in Greek can also mean scholar which then would make sense why Jesus says his time has not yet come, rabbi’s could not teach until married….and don’t forget during that time no wife no kids = homo)

No ignoring the conflict of Jesus himself “turn the other check” and “I come not to bring peace but a sword”
We know when multiple people tell a story there should be between 10-40% differences. Which the gospels DO HAVE but there 10-40% difference is in the events or where the speeches were given. Episodic memory writes without trying, you won’t remember my exact words but you’ll remember more likely where you sat as you read them. Find in Matthew the sermon on the mount and compare to the other gospels. This suggest highly that people were using a common source of quotes (turns out this is a theory called “q” for quelle its Russian) And then pasting them into places where it seemed to fit.
Also the gospels lack the custom feel. Luke if he wrote it would write what he knew he was a doctor miracles of healing would probably hit him the biggest while the fishermen would find the loafs and nets full miracles more personal. Each gospel is a random mix of them.

Then finally the big part that holds it all together…Jesus hung on the cross…
(honestly this is where I wished at some point I would have stopped…stopped praying for wisdom, for more truth to be revealed and just left it alone)

Jesus is taken to Pilate because the Jews cannot by law put him to death…LIE they were going to stone a whore, talked about killing Jesus and Lazarus etc…it’s a LIE they could we know it for fact…

History shows Pilate has ruthless and heartless and no roman would ever give into a crowd (when rumors of an attempt on Paul's life come to one man’s ears he assigns 72 body guards!!!!)

So clearly the blame is tried to be moved off of Roman (which I can handle they would never have survived otherwise in ROME!!!!)

The cross by law was only for enemies of the State…the words used for the people hung next to Jesus and Barabbas are another one of those double meaning words…they were actually zealots by law.


So Pilate ask Jesus are you king of the Jews…Jesus answer when it is properly applied is “You say CORRECTLY” blame enemy of the state hang him….

Barabbas is the other prisoner and the only other uprising we know of is the turning over the coin tables at the temple….and some manuscripts put him has “Jesus Barabbas” which means…Jesus Son of the Father….
Oh snap a son?!?!?! The Jews needs the blood line that god made king…David’s bloodline so they pick the SON!!!!
(suddenly story is way different isn’t it? To top it off some theories wife marry is a Benjamin which God will “dwell between their shoulders….if you follow the holy grail or in Latin Sang Raal which means ROYAL BLOOD there is a line of kings in France where Marry Magdalene took the grail according to myth and they have a birth mark that is a red cross with 4 equal arms on their chest yes like knight templar *insert chills up spine* oh and they married into French royalty and then the church promised to FOREVER BE ALLENGENT until they killed off and erased from family trees the last known member *there is records of another holy blood holy grail follows but it’s long story…but yes that makes all Christians France and Jerulsum and Muslim and Jews fall under his rule and the priority of sion’s goal is to achieve that.)

Ok so Jesus is up on the cross for being a zealot
(but wait I want more evidence…Peter the ZEALOT and Judias his last name…another double meaning…and Jesus has them all go out and get swords and inspects them himself)

And the cross is a VERY SLOW DEATH IN PUBLIC but we know that only His mother the guards the disciple Jesus loved very much and Joseph of aramthea is there. It’s private for some reason. On random Joseph’s prosperity where there is a tomb!!! After a few hours, even though it should take at least 3 days (they suffocate, eventually they get to tired to pull themselves up to breath and yeah….) Jesus says his thirsty they give him sour wine, this is wrong too, the sour wine is actually used like smelling salts so the suffering is prolonged and then Jesus randomly dies….?!?!?!?!? His legs aren’t broken to full fill scripture which actually that’s a law of mosses about the pass over meal…not a prophecy.

Ok then Joseph asks for Jesus’ body…which he uses the verb for someone who is alive…..

People like to say the tomb was sealed but notice there is over 24 hours before it is..,

Next none of the resurrections are even close to the same….ALL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT (marks also was added much latter after the writing was complete)

One even doesn’t have an angel…it’s a man in white…which could be another ignored major political group at the time who were known for their white robes…and were healers

The Nag Hammadi Libraries has writing by a peter that has him talking to Jesus while someone else is on the cross

So does some Jewish oral teachings, the Koran etc…..

Romans could be bribed…
And it was illegal to burry a person hung on the cross ILLEGAL!!!!
Stranger and stranger no real witnesses, didn’t break the legs, died early, conflicting stories a healer(?) and some stories that say cover up….

Now we also know the church lied, cheated and killed to gain power…that does that oh yeah Satan!!!!

The donation of Constantine, it was a forgery that gave the church the power to choose kings making every monarch after loyal.

They held the bible secret for years not letting others read it….no gospel we have predates the 4th century so actually Matthew mark Luke and john as we know them were written about 400 years after Christ died…most scholars ignore that but like to mention that Alexander the great story sat unchanged for about 400 years and then people started adding the myth part, standing firm that the gospels were written in 100AD or sooner.

Marry Magdalene is never a whore church made it up but the first black madanas are proven to be of her holding a child (Jesus Barabbas?) book of Phillip in Nag Hamaddi Libraries also says they were “companions”

Find the fall of the angels in the bible as you know the story….next check the book of Enoch…it was cut…people kind of sympathized with them


And that’s just running over the easiest of the stuff…God is a god of conformation not of making everything just barely believable….the true God I know doesn’t need tricks to win souls….they are bad he hits them with fire and brimstone…(after a chance to repent see Nineveh in Jonah)

And that land belonged to the Jews GOD PROMISED IT but then Jesus is…turn the other cheek?
Or even better specifically pro roman ones:
Go the extra mile (there was a law roman soldiers could make you carry their gear one mile Jesus said go two)

Give to ceaser what are ceasers

Pilate is the attempted savior of Jesus

Suddenly the Jews who had been fighting back are Christians who love those who hate them, who heap fiery coals on the heads of their oppressors and Rome has it A LOT easier….
Pretty sure my god closes lions mouths for me and kills babies or gives boils and rivers of blood to people who try to take over….unless we are unfaithful then….he delivers us….we are block out.

Remember Adam mosses Noah Abraham Jonah Joseph David they all heard god…and it wasn’t this quite little pull….people got up and went into the other room HEARING GOD!!!! They saw parts of him and it made their faces glow…but after Jesus he falls silent? The veil is ripped but now god has nothing to say? Or are we listening in the wrong place?

Don’t forget for rest of new testament except revelations Paul was a roman citizen

And some manuscripts have the mark of the beast as 616 not 666

Heck the towns a Nazareth doenst even show up on any census…it probably didn’t even really exist

Demons are of negative energy makeup. Unless you are of Holy Angelic Positive energy makeup - you cannot kill a demon. So everything that is given in the "How to Kill a Demon 101" original post, (With the exception of prayer* - and prayer alone won't kill a demon, it just might bring help your way. It still requires the intervention of Holy Angels.) is false. Demons would only laugh at any of those methods used.

If you are a human conduit performing an ousting or exorcism, you must also have the backing of God, Christ Jesus and the Cherubic Order. That means being a Christian who is in Truth. This is why there are so many failed oustings and exorcisms. If the one performing the exorcism doesn't have the backing of the Creator, then nothing is done to help. It is not the human that actually kills (or more aptly "Offs their energy") but those in the Spirit Realm, like the Cherubic Order, who fight in the Spiritual War against the demons.

EDIT: *Prayer to YAHWEH

[edit on 1-9-2010 by ReginaAdonnaAaron]

If you say something quietly someone might hear you. Hold an intention or an emotion and something might sense it. Prayer can be heard by nonliving or nonhuman entities. A deceased relative or some other helpful entity may try to answer your prayers. The tendecy of religious people to seek out benevolent entities combined with the tendency of trying to convert people may lead to religions monopolizing and manipulating the spirit world. So far I've had demons trying to convert me to Christianity while implicating angels and witches in the crimes they've been committing.

Daimon can be a general term to refer to a nonhuman entity regardless of alignment to good or evil. However in modern usage the term demon is often used to refer to a specific type of malevolent entity. So hopefully, people don't think you are referring to an evil entity if you aren't. btw Demons don't just tempt people. It is never the persons fault to be attacked. Saying demons only hurt you if you've done something wrong is just a con to try to rationalize an unjust situation.

Except for salt, none of the things you've mentioned would really do anything to a demon. You'd only be tricking them into leaving you alone, or getting another entity to do something about them.

For something to exist in the physical world it needs to be either matter or energy. Salt interferes with the energy they are sending to influence you.

I'm currently working on some demon fighting tools. Tin Foil Hats are associated with crazy people. Someone who is heavily afflicted by demons tends to hear malevolent voices and may suffer personality disorders. The Tin foil hat is supposed to protect the wearer from mental influence, but it might just make you a baked potato. Something to block and/or reflect energy transfer should work though. I think lead would be a better shielding material. I'd really like to have an effective magneto helmet.

ReginaAdonnaAaron
Demons are of negative energy makeup. Unless you are of Holy Angelic Positive energy makeup - you cannot kill a demon. So everything that is given in the "How to Kill a Demon 101" original post, (With the exception of prayer* - and prayer alone won't kill a demon, it just might bring help your way. It still requires the intervention of Holy Angels.) is false. Demons would only laugh at any of those methods used.

Finally, what a relief it is to read information that is spot on.

Star.

Demons are simply nephil spirits who are all evil because all good spirits go to Yahushua when their body perishes.

BTW, demons can be banished from a sinners body by speaking the Lords Prayer from the bottem of their heart. Exorcists are not always needed. However, if there is a slither of sin still remaining after the prayer, sleeping and much stronger demons (especially Rapha's) can be activated.

There are two nets, you can swim into one while trying to get away from the other.
Religion isn't the answer; just another trap.

There are various mantras and conjurations which help to protect one from various negative influences, as you know we also have our very own legion of demons inside our minds in the form of defects, vices, errors, ego's etc which can cause us to commit many mistakes, it's worth investigating our own psychological sphere to prevent such attacks.

a reply to: Rthaothal some where in mark new testament i remember reading in car ride when i was younger ... god son saw a women pezest by demon he spoke on lord name god son said " be gone demon for you are not welcome go back where you came from , the demon disapared the women was NOT PESEST ANY MORE .. i have terrible memory of bible because i never like remember 1125 pages .but i am childern paster kid so i payattenchen anuff but i do rember it gose something like that , see they don't like hearing blood of the lamb its to holy for them in luke the lead angel lusfer got struck down in hell for trying sneak behind gods back so all the other angel that followed the devil there afriad of god and his army of messagers and the mythicals that work for the good

a reply to: Jordan River not only hebra but they speak toung but dosen't matter what language you speak god Jesus holy sprit dose NOT care what lang you speak you speak answer will be replyed

a reply to: anastaisa

the you all people jorden senc your name you came up with by the jorden river they spoke of in bible , that god real name is yashwa

a reply to: anastaisa BUT I HAVE SAY I AM GLADE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS ALL RELIGIONS ARE THE SAME if you think about it

a reply to: ReginaAdonnaAaron

actually you can holyness or not its very possible its called you call on the name of the lamb and there other theory's

a reply to: Jordan Riverbefore jumping in with " how to kill < insert fantasy > " is generally good form to establish that < insert fantasy > really does exist

you - like so many before you - have skipped this vital step

its akin to telling people that the best way to kill unicorns is to spray them with powdered pixie tears

all you really do is demonstrate that you have a tenuous grasp on reality

a reply to: ignorant_ape

i honestly don't now how this demonology started but i think funny its like how jews debate about tora .. anyway who its more funny what you can learn on here we all have our own thoughts it's like a table full facts ..hopefully no one gets offende with no ones other posts just fact that your sharing what you now so out there being hammer out on table of fact then you find a truth to the facts

a reply to: anastaisa

this why i care less about religion because this crap demons angels are real yes you can kill them yes some things in bible are told of true fact . NO not all thing on here are true even i spot out stario types . but why the hell are we talking about religion when talking about other stuff yes it 20 % it ties in to other conversations but there so much crap out there that you need find your own info because there stario types lies truth and you will never now what true inless you found out for your self an or dable in info and think what could be possible and realistic or ask some one that actually nows which good luck .... i apologize that if it offends any one all i been reading religion religion religion some people on this web are atheists . and some HAVE a religion either way whats point battling out all religion your asking for debate .. all religion are same . just put down what you now about that stuff not about religion and and other stuff, i could understand if it is like why demons are afraid of the word god holy spirit and Jesus the lord blood the lamb and lead answer from that, but if you see it you can put impute just don't ramble about there extra details about religion. its simple (so i apoligize if it offend some you but just ignore it if it dose and don't add your stupid imput in this commets i don't want a argument arguing wast my time and do not add more religion stuff on because NO one like being preach at . so please stop exra religion stuff )

a reply to: anastaisa

you want awarer be answer about demons andgel and mythical .. heres a websit i found very helpfull just like all sterio types thing there will be some sterio type crap on all web sits so becarful what your eyes read your ears hear about . bc some not true

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THERE ARE GOOD MYTHICAL AND BAD THE GOOD ONES TELL OR SHOW YOU . even if list evil dose NOT mean they are I DON'T NOW IF MYTHCALS TRUE OR NOT BUT I BELIEVE IT THE WORLD FULL MYSTERY NEW THINGS OLD THINGS SURPLICES . SO YA AND THERE ARE LOTS PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN THE SAME THING SO WHAT that world for you alot people believe in that stuff there people believe in allince , mythicals,religion,life on other planets .. world full mystery surplices beside mermaid what i have read they suck the souls of people after stragling them in water ...... some water creaturse are NOT THAT ARE NICE AND have controll over them selfs from doing that . any ways like siad even if there listed evil dose NOT mean they are DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER . simple as that

www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com

a reply to: Jordan River

I have slayed a few in my day and what you list only cleans the house. It does not kill but cast away.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Jordan River
before jumping in with " how to kill < insert fantasy > " is generally good form to establish that < insert fantasy > really does exist

Even though what we perceive to be spirits are capable of being physically observed through EMF detectors, thermal imaging, digital audio, and various other means. Not to mention the thousands of eyewitness accounts testifying there is something more to this existence than simply ourselves. If such events are capable of being observed, does that not allow one to assume there are other things out there that are currently not being observed (or not wanting to be observed)?

It seems to be a more ignorant perspective to deny all that is beyond our own nose and physical capability of our eyes to perceive.