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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by oozyism
That's kind of circular logic. No one would fight this much if people did not originally make some big idea over the Jews who got killed. So really, by questioning the obvious fact that 6 million Jews died, you, by proxy, make all the other deaths less important.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
still believe that over 6 million Jews died during something called The Holocaust and that they and they alone were systematically singled out.
Stop right there....
That's what many antisemitic groups would like you to believe that the Jews/Zionists are trying to push! When in fact I have yet come across any Jewish group that has yet made the claims that they were solely systematically singled out. Most if not ALL Holocaust survivors will tell you that there were plenty of non Jews that were also gassed, shot, buried alive, kicked punched hung. etc...
Let's get that misconception squared away.
Proceed.
Originally posted by oozyism
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by oozyism
How does that make what happened to them any less horrible? It does not.
People who hate Jews just for being Jewish are bad people. It is that simple. Anyone trying to downplay what happened to them is transparent and I think evil.
So you think what happened to the other 55 million people is not important? That is an assumption, don't take me wrong.
Anyone who reads your statement can make the assumption that you somehow think there is no importance to any other deaths rather than the Jews, which reinforces the claims within this thread which are made in regards to full media control by the Jews.
I said no such thing Oozy? Of course every single death is horrible. It's you who are trying to make the Holocaust irrelevant for some reason. Why? Are Jewish lives less valuable?
Please don't lie about what I said and about me. Try the truth and reread what I posted.
I'll ask right up front to get rid of any misunderstandings. Is English your first language? If it is, knock off the lies.
If you do understand, are you saying people who hate Jews just for being Jewish are good people in your mind? Clear that up for us?
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by ModernAcademia
Yup he is all over the news as of late.
Let's see, he makes a war movie. "Platoon" makes millions of dollars then poo poos another War movie "Pearl Harbor" as glorifying war.
Can anybody say hypocrite?
Oliver Stone Defends Hitler; Blames Jews for Nazi Fuhrer's Bad Reputation
Controversial movie director Oliver Stone topped himself on Sunday, July 25th, when the Academy Award-winning filmmaker defended Adolf Hitler in an interview with The Times of London. The
half-Jewish filmmaker blamed Jewish control of the American media for the Nazi Führer's bad image. Stone also lambasted the "Jewish-dominated" mass media for the United States' policy towards Israel.
Stone recently directed a documentary South of the Border that canonizes Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, a self-proclaimed enemy of American imperialism. In the New York Times, Larry Rother mentions how Stone has often been lambasted for playing loose with historical fact.
Yes. It happened. Stop dragging it up into every debate.
Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
Yes. It happened. Stop dragging it up into every debate. And stop with calling out 'anti-semetic' every time you start losing an arguement.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by oozyism
Oh I agree. But by focusing on the Jewish deaths, we do dehumanize the rest. So in an odd relationship. Denying the holocaust, in fact, causes more importance in the Jewish deaths. If you want to make the Jewish deaths as important, don't focus purely on it.
Same reason why no one cares about the 35+ million Native American killed from the Spanish. Instead we worry more about little things like the Jews killed in the holocaust. Same reason why when Israel does something, it's on the front page instantly. But when some unknown nations like Eritrea does it, no one will hear about it for maybe 3 years.
Simply put, we create the problem.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by oozyism
i had an uncle who was awarded the purple heart for dying in world war 2, in theater. he wasn't jewish. but i do understand why it is a big deal. it shows that genocide FOR ANY REASON, it's just plain evil.
Originally posted by Son of Will
So... Oliver Stone is a Jew hater and denies the Holocaust (with a capital H, because it's the only one worth mentioning in recorded history)? I bet he also calls for the destruction of Israel, too.
Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
reply to post by SLAYER69
appologies.
I did not mean debate here. I was refering to the israelli government bringing it up.