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Reclaim The Declaration of Independence- The UN Plan & Agenda 21

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posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 11:33 AM
As a years long person (mostly lurking) on ATS, I have been surprised that there hasn't been much discussion about Agenda 21- "Sustainable 'Smart Growth' and Development". I searched ATS and found a few short threads that said very little. It is a 300 page, 40 chapter policy document adopted in Rio de Janeiro in 1992 adopted by the delegates to the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development.

The more one researches and reads about this Agenda, the more one can see that it isn't about the "environment", though that is its premise. Many of the poor souls in the eco-movement are truly good people that want to make a difference, however they are mere pawns, being used through their own good intentions. The eco-issues are veils being used by a much higher group of people who want to completely alter society and the very way of life the human race leads by their socialist ideas of cultural engineering and population control.

You may read in your local paper about Vision Millenium, WorkGroups, Total Quality Management, and Partnerships between Churches, welfare and social service agencies... etc. These are flags that, behind the scenes, the plan is moving forward. The need for us all to recognize animals as having "equal" or superior rights as/to people, the need for us all to relinquish our owned property to "conservation efforts", the frustration of years of zoning approvals to build even a shed on one's own property, the need for distribution of birth control to middle school students...

Many goals and strategies are outlined in Sustainable America, the report from our former President Clinton's President's Council on Sustainable Development (PCSD). Former President Clinton's PCSD is merely one of about 150 similar councils established worldwide governments, following the guidelines from United Nations Commission on Sustainable Development.

Keep in mind that those who define the policy terms will write the rules. These great "sages" will show the "science" to educate the "ignorant masses".

However, nowhere is the usurption of our Rights more evident than in its policies regarding governing private property rights and the use of land and its resources:
Recommendation A.1

(b) All countries should establish as a matter of urgency a national policy on human settlements, embodying the distribution of population...over the national territory.

(c)(v) Such a policy should be devised to facilitate population redistribution to accord with the availability of resources.

Recommendation D.1

(a) Public ownership or effective control of land in the public interest is the single most important means of...achieving a more equitable distribution of the benefits of development whilst assuring that environmental impacts are considered.

(b) Land is a scarce resource whose management should be subject to public surveillance or control in the interest of the nation.

(d) Governments must maintain full jurisdiction and exercise complete sovereignty over such land with a view to freely planning development of human settlements.

Thread Concluded below:
References for Thread:

“The hope that fired up the election of Barack Obama has flickered out, leaving a national mood of despair and disappointment. Americans are dispirited over how wrong things are and uncertain they can be made right again. Hope may have been a quick breakfast, but it has proved a poor supper.”—Mortimer Zuckerman, Editor-in-Chief, US News & World Report, July 2, 2010

posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 11:46 AM

The Global Biodiversity Assessment, published by the United Nations Environment Program, to be the instruction book for implementing the Convention on Biological Diversity, describes a nation where most of the land is protected for wildlife and biodiversity:

"This [protected areas] means that representative areas of all major ecosystems in a region need to be reserved, that blocks should be as large as possible, that buffer zones should be established around core areas, and that corridors should connect these areas. This basic design is central to the recently-proposed Wildlands Project in the United States."

The Wildlands project referenced here has an even more vivid description:

"...that at least half of the land area of the 48 conterminous states should be encompassed in core reserves and inner corridor zones (essentially extensions of core reserves) within the next few decades.... Nonetheless, half of a region in wilderness is a reasonable guess of what it will take to restore viable populations of large carnivores and natural disturbance regimes, assuming that most of the other 50 percent is managed intelligently as buffer zones. Eventually, a wilderness network would dominate a region.... with human habitations being the islands. The native ecosystem and the collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans."

I find this bizarre, alarming, and freakish. Therefore, essentially, this states that animals will have free range, while people will be "contained."

The implementation that this is being rolled out, even as we speak now, is in the alarming raising of taxes on any land the nanosecond one puts any type of outbuilding on it, whether it has any utilities installed or not. There are incidents where residents have had taxes raised thousands of dollars just for unimproved cabins on pastureland. All part to abandon living on the beauty of outlying areas and move into the "human island areas"- the "sustainable living areas" that are designated for human use.

The one core principle that we all must embrace is that our Declaration of Independence is our CORE DOCUMENT that founded this country. It supercedes everything, even the Constitution, which is invoked and trampled upon every single day.

John Quincy Adams said that the virtues that were infused into the Constitution were the principles proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence.

100 years later, Abraham Lincoln said:
Our Fathers established these great self evident truths that... their posterity might look up again to the Declaration of Independence and take courage to renew that battle to which their Fathers began, so that truth... and Christian virtues might not be extinguished from the land... Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrine conflicting with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence... let me entreat you to come back...come back to the truths that are in the Declaration of Independence."

Wake up from your apathy and read. Please rise up and let your local governments know that you will not accept or participate in any local form of Agenda 21. Reclaim the Declaration of Independence in your communities. It starts small then it will spread.

Good Luck in your endeavours for all freedoms and God bless you all in your good fight for the freedoms this country was founded on~

[edit on 26-7-2010 by thegoodearth]

[edit on 26-7-2010 by thegoodearth]

posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 02:18 PM
I believe this has been posted in the wrong category.

I do believe our population has "blown up" and is out of control. I don't think that there is a fix to this problem though.

Man has wiped many animals off the face of the planet (extinction) which is CRAZY! I think it would be nice to know that there are laws not allowing us to encroach any further into the wildlife habitat, they have to live somewhere.

I do understand what you are getting at though, and it is scary. Bit by bit they are tightening the noose. Free
Not any more. It is a very scary time we are living in and if we allow them to chisel our rights away, we shall one day wake up in concentration camps

TPTB's agenda is definitely at full speed right now. Thank you for your concern and for posting this. Interesting.

[edit on 7/26/2010 by sniknej]

posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 02:30 PM
Yes, wrong forum. Obvious goof on my part, and it will kill this thread. Oops.

Global warming is a hoax perpetrated by the highest to push this kind of policy through. There is so much alternative real science out there that disproves global warming that isn't sponsored by an interest... with real data backing it up, and it is never publicized.

It frightenes me when I see how many people read so many supporting documents of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, yet they have never read the actual documents! Those documents are the founding documents on which we live and should refer to.

posted on Jul, 27 2010 @ 03:14 PM
Thanks mods for putting this in the right forum~ appreciate your correcting my blunder (at least my technical blunders....

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 12:44 AM
reply to post by thegoodearth

Hey, I thought I would give this a bump. S & F awhile ago.

Thanks for the read OP.

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 12:54 PM
Endisnight linked to this thread elsewhere. I think it needs a bump, too.

Listen, i agree with the basic premise of what they propose: that humans are an invasive species that needs to learn to live within the environment. But then to set up "sustainable" areas is doing exactly the wrong thing. It continues to have humanity living outside of the environment.

Are we even from this planet? I mean, really. Do we find this place to be our paradise, or not? It seems with how hard we work to alter the planet to meet our needs, perhaps it would indicate that this planet is inhospitable to humanity and we don't really belong.

Regardless, unless humanity can come to this conclusion on its own, and amend its own behaviors without forceful intervention, it will only lead to facism.

every law destroys our freedom. A great quote i read on Shrodingers Blog:

“The men of old knew that life comes without warning, and as
suddenly goes. They denied none of their natural inclinations, and
repressed none of their bodily desires. They never felt the spur
of fame. They sauntered through life gathering its pleasures as
the impulse moved them. Since they cared nothing for fame after
death, they were beyond the law. For name and praise, sooner or
later, a long life or short one, they cared not at all.”

- Lao Tzu

posted on Jul, 31 2010 @ 09:38 PM
reply to post by endisnighe

Thank you much...

While everyone may not agree with my thoughts, a lively, intelligent discussion would be welcome.

I truly think this will be the insidious way that things will come to a head... not through war or any huge event... just slow, quiet means as these.

Just my opinion.

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 12:29 AM
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

reply to post by thegoodearth

Well, an invasive species we are. We, because of our intelligence, attempt to control our environment. We attempt to control chaos. We, meaning the herd mentality.

What I find hypocritical are those that poo poo us that try and live in harmony with the land.

I am a hunter, I am a fisherman, I am a gatherer, I am a farmer. Look at the states like Wisconsin, Texas, Ohio, etc that have large numbers of hunting, trapping, fishing, etc organizations. These state's wildlife are thriving. Not because of any damn government organizations but the private organizations.

Because we realize these things are resources and because they are resources we attempt to manage these resources. The states that think these things are off limits, find that because civilization has all but eliminated the predators, the herbivores will grow exponentially until disease destroys them. Hell, look at the wild pig populations in the southern states. If the predators (including Native Americans) were not decimated when we moved here, this viral growth of certain populations would not be as bad.

Hell, think about this, these wild pig populations could be a resource and monetary boom to the US. Allow people to harvest them at will until the populations came under control. BUT NO, we have these IDIOTS in government that need to observe the problem for years to understand and implement their idiotic catch and sterilize programs. Have you heard of those?

Tell you what, I could live off the land here in the US, if I was allowed to.

Now, we have the discussion of the government attempting to herd HUMANS into pens and allowing the country to go back to fallow, WOW, who the hell do they think they are? Why don't they ask the Native Americans, that lived off of the land without trying to control it for millenia, how to deal with nature?

Sometimes I feel sorry for my race, they are a bunch of morons that believe they can control chaos..........even though they have no idea.

[edit on 8/1/2010 by endisnighe]

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 04:46 PM
reply to post by endisnighe

Yes, where I live has had the unfortunate consequences of almost destroying the native whitetail deer population because of man's interference into nature's check's and balances...

They determined that we had too little coyote here, reitroduced them, and now they run rampant, destroy the farmer's livestock, and have decimated the deer.

I also find it absolutely chilling about the wording of these documents, and even more so the absolute lack of most people's responses! People truly seem not to "believe" it. Really? These are in writing. It is a classic case of not believing something that is right in front of you... the Emporer's New Clothes?

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 05:59 PM

Originally posted by thegoodearth
reply to post by endisnighe

Yes, where I live has had the unfortunate consequences of almost destroying the native whitetail deer population because of man's interference into nature's check's and balances...

They determined that we had too little coyote here, reitroduced them, and now they run rampant, destroy the farmer's livestock, and have decimated the deer. ...

That's funny, we're one step behind you. We just authorized the hunting of white tail deer in my area a few years ago, and people relieved that the population is reduced. There used to be predators controlling the deer population, now the the deer all over the place eating the understory growth (so that in 20 years there will be no new trees or other new large plants) and incidentally spreading deer ticks / lime disease all around.

Where are you? I haven't heard that anyone has too few white tail deer recently!

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 06:35 PM
reply to post by oniongrass

Some years we have a little shortage of deer. But it has been awhile. Driving from my town, 1.5 hours towards the south in San Angelo, i can usually count between 50-100 dead deer (car casualties) either right by the road, or just over the fence (they usually make it just over the fence before the adrenaline isn't enough to carry them any more).

But we have a very well managed forestry and game department. They are a little nazi-ish on the fishing, but not anything too bad.

wild hog is free hunt right now. No limits for feral hogs in Texas. Lots of folks out by Stanton, in the cotton fields, use them for target practice in the fall before deer season.

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 08:09 PM
reply to post by oniongrass

I live in Northern PA... it is weird, we had years where the deer were numerous, but the past years they have dwindled, and the past two have been really bad. This past hunting season was awful, and there are absolutely none on the roads where I live. Deer hunting here has always been very regulated, so no one has been able to overharvest.

There were also sinister stories here about "fawn clubbing"... I didn't really follow them, so I can't report much about it, however, I remember the locals were up in arms about it, and it involved the local game wardens. As I said, I didn't follow them very much, as what I initially read was grotesque, clubbing baby fawns to control the population.

At any rate, these UN treaties are totally out of the realm of freedom. And that the US would go along with them are completely against the doctrines of our country's founding core documents. Does anyone in the government even care about this?

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 09:57 PM
I'm about 50 miles north of NYC. It's fairly densely settled so we don't have amateurs hunting very much. The deer hunt has specific hunters approved by the town, following very conservative rules and we haven't had any accidents. White tails have deer ticks that carry lime disease, and that's a big concern around here, somewhat less so now that we're reducing the deer population. I don't think other kinds of deer carry those ticks. I guess you have white tails in PA but not in TX.

The main encroachment on habitable land taking place around here is the identification and regulation of wetlands and surrounding areas. We have a lot of wetlands -- streams, some lakes, ponds, swampy areas. It used to be that if you had a swamp on your land, you would just drain it or fill it with sand and turn it into useful land. Now you can get in a heap of trouble for doing that. It's become an unpardonable sin, worse than anything else. We must protect the mosquitoes, or something.

Within the past few years, wetland maps have been shared with the US government, so now it's becoming their business. I remember under the Clinton administration there was a big push to identify and protect wetlands, to a ridiculous extent, and it gets worse never better.

Some towns around here won't let you build anything within 100 feet of a wetland. One town just expanded it to 150 feet. It takes place locally, with local incentives, because those people already living in a town want to exclude newcomers and dense development around them. They may have a house 20 feet from a wetland that was built long ago, but now they want 100 or 150 feet for a buffer for new construction. It makes sense individually, as long as the buildings currently here remain certified for use -- as long as we can remain here.

One guy cut down a bunch of trees in his wetland buffer area so he could make a nice horse pasture. It's along a stream, and he wanted the horses to be there and they could drink from the stream, but OMFG the stream is a wetland. He hoped to get away with it, I guess, because his place is in a rather hidden area. But he was found out, and now they're trying to make him replant the trees he cut down. Obviously this will ruin his horse pasture. And that makes some of these enviros happy. They want to ruin his pasture, I guess because they can't have a horse pasture themselves.

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 10:47 PM
reply to post by oniongrass

oh, we got lots of white tails in Texas. That and muledeer are what you find the most. But the mule deer are alittle more south from where i am in the Permian Basin.

I prefer the white tail. Mule deer is a little more gamey.

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 11:02 PM
Yes, it is these kinds of things that are happening. And it is the "citizen" police, too, the people who tell on others that get the momentum going, thinking that they are doing a good deed, telling on their neighbors for violating the zoning/ wetland/ enviro laws... I mean, really? What is it in people that they take such pleasure in this? So and so didn't get a permit for this building project, this or that... when did we get to this point? They are counting on this innate hunger of the public to "rat out thy neighbor".

For crying out loud, the Census people have been up to my place three times now trying to get me to tell them details about my neighbors... I am absolutely serious. There are camps all around my property, and I have each time refused to say a word, because I simply don't know, and also because there is a creepy factor involved in that. I told the lady that I will call the main office if they come again.

I know that Lyme disease is carried by deer ticks. I know of a couple of people who have had the very grave misfortune of contracting this nasty disease. But again, it is one of those diseases that is extremely overhyped in the true reality of the number of cases verified, hence polarizing a population for the "need" to reduce the risk factors, instead of educating the public on prevention. A state of fear, induced for what reason, I don't know.

posted on Aug, 1 2010 @ 11:35 PM

Originally posted by thegoodearth ...
... I know that Lyme disease is carried by deer ticks. I know of a couple of people who have had the very grave misfortune of contracting this nasty disease. But again, it is one of those diseases that is extremely overhyped in the true reality of the number of cases verified, hence polarizing a population for the "need" to reduce the risk factors, instead of educating the public on prevention. A state of fear, induced for what reason, I don't know. ...

It's not so easy, a lot of people around here basically don't go outdoors for fear a tick will jump on them and they won't notice it for a couple days, and they'll get infected. By the time you see the concentric rings it could be too late. One town grinds up ticks you bring to them and sends them off to a lab and you get a report back about whether the tick was infected. My wife got bitten and as a precaution, her physician recommended an antibiotic. That's pretty bad, this guy is not trigger-happy with drugs, but he had no better ideas.

And the deer were eating all our understory growth in our woods. Then what would they eat? Already they were coming out of the woods looking for unconventional food sources. According to one graph, the deer population since 1935 in this area has gone up 25 times! There are no longer wolves and mountain lions here to keep the population down.

I'll invite our friend from Texas up here to see how ours taste.

posted on Aug, 2 2010 @ 12:01 AM
reply to post by oniongrass

Yikes... watch it, they will "reintroduce" the wolves or mountain lion. Then watch what happens... that's what they did here with the coyote.

Just kidding... I really can't imagine they would be that idiotic.
Well, hopefully not.

I didn't mean to sound flippant about Lyme disease, hopefully, I didn't offend. Perhaps, though, it is tied in with the pharmaceuticals... I know the course for Lyme disease isn't easy or fun... isn't it a long course of injections? Or is that if you have been definitively DX'd? I know my father, in his long quest for some kind of miracle for ALS, tried a course of IV antibiotics for Lyme disease, thinking perhaps it was Lyme disease causing his symptoms...

posted on Aug, 2 2010 @ 12:18 AM
reply to post by thegoodearth

It's one shot to knock it out early, probably before you know if you have it or not, and if you don't do that and do get the disease, then it's a long course of shots and success is not certain. A friend of a friend waited too long was brain damaged by it. In fact we suspect a friend might have had some minor brain damage from it but we can't really ask her.

I'm sorry about your father. I know ALS is considered incurable, but I hope at least it was not painful.

They won't reintroduce predators around here unless the locals vote for them. They will go for whatever they perceive to be in their individual best interest. That "principle" is pretty sacred around here.

posted on Aug, 3 2010 @ 12:45 PM
reply to post by thegoodearth

It sounds nice where you are. I have always liked rural Pennsylvania, never had an excuse to live there. I grew up in northern Delaware. I guess these "camps" are not to the liking of the authorities, who want to know what is going on in every square foot of "wilderness".

One good thing about the feared EMP attack that people get all doomy about, is that if we're really lucky, it would wipe out a lot of databases.

I just learned a new word from the internet yesterday: "Pennsyltucky" meaning the rural part of Pennsylvania that reminded someone of Kentucky. I need the internet to teach me how to talk like a country boy.

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