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Howard Dean and the MSM lie through their teeth

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posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 10:43 AM
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The media's hypocrisy knows no bounds, as they continue to forget their own smears | Dronetek

Over the last week, the MSM has been doing non-stop stories about the Sharrod tape and how it shows the "right wing media" needs to be shut down. This past week they claimed the Sharrod fiasco is the fault of Fox News and ignore the fact Fox didn't even show the footage till the late evening. Which would be long after Sharrod was forced to step down by the White House. On Sunday Howard Dean appeared on all the morning shows claiming that not only was Fox to blame, but that it makes them racist.




As if they were all reading off the same script, the media has been repeating this talking point over and over for a week. Whats more is that Dean only got challenged on Fox. In every other interview, the reporter let Dean get away with his fallacious lies. Dean is using a tactic made famous by Joseph Goebbels. Repeat something enough and it will become reality. No matter how utterly absurd it is.

In another example of this, Rick Sanchez did a segment with Ann Coulter this past week where he made the same sort of claims. He also claimed that it proves Fox and Breitbart have no credibility.



The problem of course, is that Sanchez has been caught lying through his teeth on many occasions. In the most recent example, Rick Sanchez reported for a week on completely made up quotes that he attributed to Rush Limbaugh.



The guy spends a week reporting this and then 30 seconds correcting it. By Rick's own standards, he has ZERO credibility! In fact, the entire MSM is guilty of everything they have been accusing Fox of! I could spend hours posting examples, but you would be better off looking in your own time on Newsbusters or my youtube page

Just remember this when you see Anderson Cooper, or Chris Matthews wagging their fingers about credibility and "right wing" propaganda. These people are masters of left wing propaganda and have been at it for decades. Its all meant to be subterfuge for Obama and Democrats who are in trouble for November.



[edit on 26-7-2010 by Hudson]




posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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These people (marxists) are pushing and will continue to push their agenda, specifically because we haven't elected anyone that will actually do anything about it. Not even the "press" will challenge some of their ridiculous statements, for example, Jesse Jackson advocating for "economic justice" based on race. In other words, taking my wealth and giving it to a black guy, so we have about the same. Difference is, I worked for everyting I have, and it's mine. If you make bad choices, like crack, jail, dropping out, early pregnancy, you're going to be poor no mater what color you are. Just so happens, black folks are a bit more prone to this, though we have our share as well. Problem is, if you say something like that, or as I like to call it, the truth, you're branded a racist. So in some sense, we are a nation of cowards, because guys like Chris Wallace let this kind of thing, "social economic justice" go unchallenged. He is a coward, and so is anyone who won't speak up. As for me, I will defend what is mine to any extent necessary. If those of you who continue to do so let this kind of thing go unchallenged, one day you'll be faced with a tough decision. will you let the government redistribute your belongings, or will you defend it with your life? Good luck.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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No MSM has credibility.
You can point at misrepresentations in MSNBC all day
And Fox News
And CNN's lazy fact checking, etc etc etc

They are consistant in all being as credible as a 12 year old girl blogging in my opinion...

But thats the game...to stir up anger and resentment for channel X and so you are hooked on channel Y to continously fuel the anger while feeling your in the last bastion of truth on television, not realizing your just accepting a different spin on fabrications, half truths, etc...

Welcome to the circus

I recommend using South Park for any and all news...just as credible.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by astrogolf, one day you'll be faced with a tough decision. will you let the government redistribute your belongings, or will you defend it with your life? Good luck.


That has been going on since civilization began...its called taxes...taxes are necessary for various reasons...and most people choose to kick a few bucks back into the pot...some don't and end up in hot water.

Not a real tough decision.

What tax percent = communism anyhow...in my opinion...100%

Socialism is a sliding scale and to a degree, we have always been somewhat socialist...at least for the last 50+ years...but comparatively not even close to most other places on earth.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 11:45 AM
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Loved that Ricky "Dirty" Sanchez clip. Does he even know who is Ann Coulter married too?

But she was excellent in defending her stance and denouncing falsehood while advocating facts. CNN anchors have a real hard time understanding facts, no wonder they can never defend their own stance on a subject.






[edit on 26-7-2010 by prionace glauca]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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It is a bit rich when the 'right wingers' use this against the left.

At the risk of sounding childish, but doing it deliberately and doing it anyway - YOU STARTED IT!!!!

Not Goebbels, who did kinda start the whole lie really well and often and people will believe you, but the likes of that Australian American media billionaire magnate chap that owns everything, and all the shouty people on the TV. It is even spreading to the UK now, with the idiotic screaming of Boulton and Burley on Sky News.

I suppose that what I am saying is that those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Especially not from inside. And not when their opponents are simply triangulating against them - using their techniques and strategies against them - fighting fire with fire if you will.

WORD UP - this may be my most cliched attempt at writing anything, ever.

Peace/Love/Unity



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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Fox news is MSM! They are the worst propagandists of them all. I don't think they should be shut down even though I'd like them to be though.

However it would be prudent to have laws against the hate speech that they often promote.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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I love how in the Sanchez Coulter clip, how he tries to compare Dan Rather to Breitbart. One was a news anchor the other a blogger. Since when is a blogger a actual reporter? Such a weak argument. Problem is that to many people think that a blogger is a reporter.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by pirhanna
Fox news is MSM! They are the worst propagandists of them all. I don't think they should be shut down even though I'd like them to be though.

However it would be prudent to have laws against the hate speech that they often promote.


Every time I watch Fox I see people like Alan Colmes and Juan Williams giving the liberal/Democrat perspective. Fox gives me both sides of the issues; for most of the other networks we're lucky to get one conservative/Republican in a group of 3-4 libs.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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FoxNews is the MSM. Were any of them blameless? No. Was FoxNews the most slanted and vicious. Arguably so. Byt a long shot.

You started it. Priceless.

Coulter slapped Sanchez around? Now there's a disconnect from objectivity. You mean by calling out that he might just be a child pornographer about 10 times in trying to make some ridiculous point about Breitbart being "set up?" I've never seen her so unhinged or nervous.

It's still in question as to how he got the tape and how long he held onto it. Far too soon to be rushing to judgment or opining on how her was "set up." Unless of course she knows something...like it was her who set him up?

Anyway, here's the most accurate timeline of events of this incident that I've seen to date. It may help some participating in this thread to get some perspective on it.

Timeline of Breitbart's Sherrod smear.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Also, how did Howard Dean lie exactly? His opinion is that FoxNews behaved and portrayed this matter in a racial way with a racial slant. And this coming on the heals of their arguably extreme overcoverage of another racially charged topic doesn't paint them in a very good light.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Also, how did Howard Dean lie exactly? His opinion is that FoxNews behaved and portrayed this matter in a racial way with a racial slant.


First, how is Fox News accusing someone of racism any more racist than when any other networks accusing people of being racist? It happens ALL THE TIME. Second, Dean's "opinion" is proven wrong by the facts. Fox didn't even cover the story till night time and then Beck took her side the next day. She had already been long fired by the time Fox even talked about it once.

MSNBC on the other hand, had shown the video early in the morning. Why isn't anyone talking about that?


And this coming on the heals of their arguably extreme overcoverage of another racially charged topic doesn't paint them in a very good light.


"extreme over coverage" huh? Based on what? What about the MSM completely ignoring the story? How is reporting on voter intimidation a bad thing? What exactly makes it "racially tinged"? The fact they are accusing black people? Is it only ok to accuse white people of racism?

Your logic make absolutely no sense. You realize that right?


Anyway, here's the most accurate timeline of events of this incident that I've seen to date. It may help some participating in this thread to get some perspective on it.

Timeline of Breitbart's Sherrod smear.


Again, Media Matters is a propaganda rag that Hillary Clinton and George Soros started. Show me where MM points to MSNBC's early morning broadcast of the clip. You wont be able to, because they aren't after the truth.



[edit on 26-7-2010 by Hudson]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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It is a bit rich when the 'right wingers' use this against the left.

At the risk of sounding childish, but doing it deliberately and doing it anyway - YOU STARTED IT!!!!


This from people who excuse everything the MSM or Obama does with "Fox did it" or "Bush did it". Also, do your math. Fox is one network that is relatively young compared tot he other networks. The left uses about a dozen networks for their propaganda AND they have Hollywood.

[edit on 26-7-2010 by Hudson]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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At least MediaMatters doesn't hide what it is


How was Fox racist? Are you kidding me?



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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No, I'm not kidding you. Why is reporting on black panther intimidation of voters, racist? Do you think that when the MSM accuses white people of being racist, that its racist? Do you think accusing black people of racism is in itself racist? Answer these simple questions.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by Hudson

MSNBC on the other hand, had shown the video early in the morning. Why isn't anyone talking about that?



Maybe because it didn't happen



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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It did, saw it live. On Morning Joe.

Tell me, why wasn't there all this outrage when the MSM reported on completely made up quotes about Rush Limbaugh, in order to keep him buying an NFL team? Where was this outrage when the MSM was smearing tea parties as racist? Why wasn't the MSM going nuts when MSNBC editing footage of an armed black man, so they could claim it was a racist white?

I just want to know how you guys explain this glaring inconsistency.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:04 PM
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Yep. It was on Morning Joe on the morning of Tuesday, July 20, 2010.


6:43 a.m.: Morning Joe airs Sherrod clip. MSNBC's Morning Joe aired the edited Sherrod clip and reported that Vilsack accepted Sherrod's resignation. Co-host Joe Scarborough then said that "a narrative is going to emerge ... certainly on the right with this tape that's just come out -- and you'll be hearing this the next couple of days. I think its relevance relates back to the New Black Panthers tapes that have been out there."



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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OK, I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying you saw the video on MSNBC the morning before she was forced to resign.

But I do agree with you that the Obama apologists are using selective condemnation, when there is no basis for any condemnation in the first place. Fox News just followed the lead of Obama and the NAACP and reported the racist angle of S. Sherrods forced resignation. If they had been on top of their game they would have held back from piling on and asked for the NAACP to release the whole tape for context prior to passing judgement.



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