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Afghanistan war logs: Massive leak of secret files exposes truth of occupation

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posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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An arrest has been made (apparently) for leaking the documents.
www.wired.com...


Federal officials have arrested an Army intelligence analyst who boasted of giving classified U.S. combat video and hundreds of thousands of classified State Department records to whistleblower site Wikileaks, Wired.com has learned. SPC Bradley Manning, 22, of Potomac, Maryland, was stationed at Forward Operating Base Hammer, 40 miles east of Baghdad, where he was arrested nearly two weeks ago by the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division. A family member says he’s being held in custody in Kuwait, and has not been formally charged. Manning was turned in late last month by a former computer hacker with whom he spoke online. In the course of their chats, Manning took credit for leaking a headline-making video of a helicopter attack that Wikileaks posted online in April. The video showed a deadly 2007 U.S. helicopter air strike in Baghdad that claimed the lives of several innocent civilians. He said he also leaked three other items to Wikileaks: a separate video showing the notorious 2009 Garani air strike in Afghanistan that Wikileaks has previously acknowledged is in its possession; a classified Army document evaluating Wikileaks as a security threat, which the site posted in March; and a previously unreported breach consisting of 260,000 classified U.S. diplomatic cables that Manning described as exposing “almost criminal political back dealings.” Read More www.wired.com...


sorry if this has been posted already.




posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:32 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:41 AM
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I assume you are referring to those illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq which, because they are illegal, amount to acts of terrorism?

That is what you want to defend? You are entitled to your point of view, but I wonder what you would say if some country fabricated evidence against the US and invaded your country killing hundreds of thousands??

By applying the same logic you are using to defend the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, I hope you would not object to your own country and your own people, your own family, your own children being invaded, attacked and murdered for no good reason.

I simply do not understand the mentality of US citizens who believe their country has the right to invade whichever country they choose, whenever they choose. There is an arrogance and an alarming lack of compassion which I find disturbing.

US is rapidly becoming one of the most reviled countries in the world, for these very reasons.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:46 AM
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THANK YOU JULIAN ASSANGE. A MILLION THANK YOU'S TO THE WHSTLEBLOWER.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO ALL FUTURE WHISTLEBLOWERS.

I hope this is the first of many such damning exposures of the heinous, criminal activities being carried out in the world by US led initiatives which they are trying so hard to keep covered up - in the name of National Security.

This 'National Security' catch phrase is simply a play on words where 'National' ='The Interests of the Nazi Parallel Government', or 'Cover Up of Heinous Crimes Committed by the NaZionists,'



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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I like that the MSM is trying to spin this as being information that almost everyone already knows. I would have to say only about 20% of people have even thought about anything released in these documents.




The documents cover much of what the public already knows about the troubled nine-year conflict: U.S. special operations forces have targeted militants without trial, Afghans have been killed by accident, and U.S. officials have been infuriated by alleged Pakistani intelligence cooperation with the very insurgent groups bent on killing Americans.


Read more: www.sfgate.com.../n/a/2010/07/25/national/w142654D43.DTL&tsp=1

[edit on 7/26/2010 by SUICIDEHK45]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:58 AM
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I can't believe you're all falling for it. Seriously... yeah, the MSM is gonna release information that makes the military industrial complex look bad
WAKE THE F UP! This is all disinfo! They know the people are getting (or more like have been) tired of these bs wars so now they're setting your sights on the next two targets, Iran and Pakistan! WAKE UP! STOP APPLAUDING JULIAN ASSANGE! HE IS A FRECKIN PUPPET! Common! The NY Times, BBC!!!! Even on ATS, what the heck is going on!



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 07:59 AM
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So here it is folks, it's against the law to tell or show the real truth. Lies and propaganda are well and fine, but dare you reveal our true colours and you should be punished by the law.


Gordon Brown when in power was trying to stop the british public accessing wikileaks through proposing an internet censorship law, citing piracy as the reason. I wonder if the new government will follow suit.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:04 AM
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The US Government is apparently repeating the same old mantra that these leaks endanger lives.

As if the US Government and all the other governments who have sent troops to invade Afghanistan and wage war on those lands for natural resources and other geopolitical and geostrategical resources have not endangered lives, Afghan, American, British and etc and indeed maimed and killed them?

It seems so easy for TPTB to accuse people of endangering lives by leaking an inkling of the truth.

Hello....waging wars endangers lives. Waging wars maim lives. Waging war ends lives.

Don't believe for one moment the hypocrites of the TPTB care about lives. They just want secrets to stay that way: Secret.

Because usually those secrets are rather dirty and unpleasant and don't do TPTB any good.

I have long been of the suspicion the Afghan insurgents had sophisticated SAMs.


Consider those helicopters and planes that NATO admit have been shot down by the Afghan insurgents.

Now consider those helicopters and planes that have crashed and which NATO claimed were downed by mechanical failure or bad weather.

At times the Afghan insurgents would claim they shot down those too.

If even some of those helicopters and planes that crashed due to alleged mechanical failure and bad weather were actually shot down by the Afghan insurgents and were covered up, well it gives you just an inkling of how far the cover-ups will go to try to hide the strength of the Afghan insurgency.

Pakistani ISI supporting the insurgents is no surprise of course. If Canada was invaded by other countries, the USA may support Canadian insurgents to try to stop a move by the invading troops in Canada to march the US border.

Iran supporting the Afghan insurgents, specifically, the Taliban? Seems more like the usual psy-ops to build up a pretext for war with Iran.

Iran nearly had a war with the Taliban in 1998 because the Taliban killed Iranian diplomats. More to the point, the Taliban are extremely Sunni and despise the Shia Iranians, and the feeling is mutual.

I could see Iran supporting shia Afghan insurgents who simply do not want their country to be occupied, which goes to something that needs to be said about the Afghan insurgency.

The insurgency is not just the Taliban, but Afghan people fighting an occupation of their country.

Imagine if a country from afar demanded someone living in the USA was handed over for crimes he apparently commited.

the US would ask for evidence of the man's wrongdoing.

Imagine the US was then invaded and occupied.


I am sure there would be many Americans would take up arms and begin an insurgency.

Or... imagine the US was trying to free itself from the shackles of imperial domination, of imperial rule, to free itself from the oppressive yoke of an all-powerful foreign empire....

I am sure the Americans who would then fight for independence, for their land to be free from foreign occupation and domination would be known as insurgents, and be called by others as terrorist.


An American Insurgent






[edit on 26-7-2010 by Regensturm]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:09 AM
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You mean people die in a war?

More breaking news at 11.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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Anyone considered the possibility that this "leak" was actually orchestrated by the Federal Gov't?

Anytime the White House actually comments on something, you know they're up to something.

There have been plenty of sensitive leaks by Wikileaks, even top secret CIA info (as Assange pointed out this morning in his press conference) and the White House never commented, or even acknowledged the existence of Wikileaks.

But now, suddenly, documents about a severely unpopular (within the Obama administration) war surface..



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:17 AM
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Yeah, I think it was on the first or second page of this thread. There doesn't seem to be any "damning" info in these documents, so they were probably released by the government to get the people up in arms about Iran and Pakistan's involvement so the U.S. can "justify" attacking Iran and Pakistan.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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Precisely. Aytime mainstream news begins to cover something in this type of depth, it means they're being utitilized by the federal government as a propaganda arm.

The moment they started talking about Iran et al, peoples' ears should have perked up.

Assange is no saint...He is an agent. A cog in a machine of propaganda.

If you or I had ever leaked any of the documents this guy supposedly has, they'd black bag and disappear us so fast.

But this guy.......



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Interesting thread.
And how selective is the moral opinion here! Amazing!

This war was an INVASION.

No Republic should have a "Standing Army", and yet America does.

No moral nation would arbitrarily invade another country, we would act in SELF DEFENSE only!

Neither nation attacked either the USA or the UK, and yet we went in and attacked them, occupying their nation, killing their people and doing immeasurable damage.

I can't believe I am even having to state the blindingly obvious in this thread, have you ALL been brainwashed by the media and your government?

Hitler invaded several nations, would you call the French Resistance or our own UK Homeland fighters planning to blow up bridges and kill Nazis "terrorists" and " Insurgents"? What is the f'ing difference!?
Oh, it's because our countries are doing the invading right? That makes it okay.
The western man can be a freedom fighter, defending his people and country against invasion, but the Arab man can't?

I laugh heartily at these leaks. Our governments illegally attacked another nation (twice!), no better than Hitler, and the public of both nations sit back and take it, unaware of most of the chaos and murder perpetrated by our troops.

Finally the info is coming out and those responsible can be publicly humiliated and shamed for the disgusting actions of our governments instead of hiding it all under secrecy.

THEY WORK FOR US, THEY REPRESENT US, WE DESERVE TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR ACTIONS AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE WE HAVE INVADED AND ATTACKED!



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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I disagree, I think there would be alot of people up in arms if they actually never said a word on this issue at all in all honesty. It's pretty embarrasing for them afterall isn't it? Especially since there have been around 90,000 documents that have been released here.



Assange is no saint...He is an agent. A cog in a machine of propaganda.


I'd love to see some proof.




If you or I had ever leaked any of the documents this guy supposedly has, they'd black bag and disappear us so fast.


I agree, but Assange is a well known face now, if he suddenly disappears alot of people are going to be asking alot of tough questions.

[edit on 26-7-2010 by Rising Against]



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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Yeah, we would dissappear so fast our heads would spin. The 300 "most important incidents" seem to be just IEDs and bombs that have been supplied by Iran and Pakistan. I haven't read all of them yet but it seems that there are these reports of munitions being "supplied" by Iran and Pakistan sprinkled in throughout the entire report.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:27 AM
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It's very simple. This is one faction of the NWO (the CFR) fighting another faction of the NWO (PNAC/neocons.Zionists). One wants us in Afghanistan, the other does not.

What is happening in N. Korea is CFR, and I have no doubt they were instrumental in having this information released. Obama is CFR. As are the Clintons, and even Bush-41. Bush-43, Cheney, et al the other.

Pick the lesser evil in this particular battle for now. I think we all know which that is. Even though some have a hatred of Obama, he is with the lesser evil. Then once the right thing happens with Afghanistan and the Middle East, resume viewing the NWO as one.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Except all of the documents were from Bush's time in office. Quite the coincedence, no? These docs released shortly before the Nov elections. Just enough time before to analyze and pick Bush's policies apart.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Oh, make no mistake. The information contained in this "leak" will be used against Iran when the time comes.

Making it public, via a convenient leak, only whets the appetite of the war-hungry American public, which is already frothing at the mouth at the opportunity of expanding the Middle Eastern war front.



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by MarkusMaximus
reply to post by SUICIDEHK45
 


Precisely. Aytime mainstream news begins to cover something in this type of depth, it means they're being utitilized by the federal government as a propaganda arm.

The moment they started talking about Iran et al, peoples' ears should have perked up.

Assange is no saint...He is an agent. A cog in a machine of propaganda.

If you or I had ever leaked any of the documents this guy supposedly has, they'd black bag and disappear us so fast.

But this guy.......


The same that happened to the tea party movement, has happened to wikileaks?
When the media covers something too much, it cant be trusted, I agree



posted on Jul, 26 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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conspiracy88

You are either just too paranoid for your own good or on the something, the only thing they could be trying to draw attention away from is the oil spill so I would keep an eye on that for the next few days for any more updates.



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